G37 without Premium

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jvmahon
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I would like to purchase a G37 with the sports package but without the Premium option (I don't like the reduced head height due to the moonroof). My local dealer (Crossroads Infinity of N.C.) has been having trouble finding this configuration. I'm curious - has anybody seen this configuration at their local dealer or are most/all of the G37s currently being shipped with Premium? I'm trying to gauge whether I should special order the car or whether I should wait in the hopes that the dealer finds what I am looking for.


carman63
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The local dealer in Chantilly, VA had a Base model at one time, but I haven't seen a Sport without the Premium package yet. Your local dealer should be able to tell you what they have projected to come in through the end of the year. Otherwise, you may have to order it to get it exactly as you want it.

Good luck!


weslvmaG37
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carman63.

Englewood infiniti in NJ has a G37S 6MT without the Premium Package. The color is red. I test drove the car this past saturday. I ended up getting a fully loaded.

UX149
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Try Grubbs Infiniti in Texas. They have over 40 G37's in stock and claim to be the largest Infiniti dealer in the US. Good Luck.

carman63
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UX149 wrote:Try Grubbs Infiniti in Texas. They have over 40 G37's in stock and claim to be the largest Infiniti dealer in the US. Good Luck.
I'l save you some trouble. I just went through their online inventory. 12 Sport models in stock, all with Premium package. 1 Base in stock.


jvmahon
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Thanks to all who responded. Looks like I'll be waiting a bit to see if the car I want becomes available.

dmkozak
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Just order it. You have very little time until the November order book closes for December delivery.

DC G-Man
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Unfortunately according to the dealer they make more money on the cars with "extras" on it.

Yes you may need to order it or keep a close eye on inventory on all of the dealerships close to you. Use the Infiniti dealer search set it to 100 miles.

Good luck on your search, keep in mind each month that goes by cars come in and cars have been sitting on the lots. Patience and Persistance pays off. If you are OK with paying MSRP... ordering may be the only way to get your combo. I definitely wouldnt let them make you pay over MSRP.

Keep us posted!

redhed
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i really wish nissan would make the sunroof on the G37 a stand alone option. cause, i'd really like to get the premium package sans sunroof. why is this so hard these days????

carman63
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redhed wrote:i really wish nissan would make the sunroof on the G37 a stand alone option. cause, i'd really like to get the premium package sans sunroof. why is this so hard these days????
The moonroof is listed as an individual option for the Journey model, at $1000. I don't think you can get a moonroof in the Base model.


dmkozak
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redhed wrote: why is this so hard these days????
Manufacturing efficiency. Production line efficiency. Parts ordering efficiency. Warehousing efficiency. Most importantly, wiring loom and installation labor, including robotic, efficiency. All of which help reduce the purchase price of the car.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Eticket
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dmkozak wrote:
Manufacturing efficiency. Production line efficiency. Parts ordering efficiency. Warehousing efficiency. Most importantly, wiring loom and installation labor, including robotic, efficiency. All of which help reduce the purchase price of the car.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?
.......cause thats efficient..!!??

redhed
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dmkozak wrote:
Manufacturing efficiency. Production line efficiency. Parts ordering efficiency. Warehousing efficiency. Most importantly, wiring loom and installation labor, including robotic, efficiency. All of which help reduce the purchase price of the car.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?
sorry, but with flex manufacturing and with all the preassembled "stuff" that is delivered to factories from outside suppliers, it can be done efficiently today....there is no reason everyone who wants the premium package should be stuck with the sunroof whether they want it or not. if the sunroof is a standalone option on the journey model...it can be with all other option packages too!

those of us who are fairly tall would love to be able to get a G37 with another inch of dearly needed headroom!
Modified by redhed at 8:25 AM 9/30/2007

DC G-Man
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Everything is doable for the right $$$$$$$

There is always the seat height back and steering column adjustments. If you really like the car youll find a way to shoe horn yourself in. Wish I was that tall....with the sunroof ....Id finally have a convertible!

Good luck with the search!

dmkozak
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redhed wrote: sorry, but with flex manufacturing and with all the preassembled "stuff" that is delivered to factories from outside suppliers, it can be done efficiently today
I will never cease to be amazed at the number of people who think they know, but have never done.

I spent 25 years as a contract r&d driver for one Euro sports car manufacturer and another 6 years (mostly overlapping) with a domestic SUV manufacturer. I have spent hours and hours discussing and costing out various ways of manufacturing and options/option packages. Many times things I think are so simple, end up being so confusing to the manufacturing process that they simply can not be done.

Now, with all due respect, the engineers, developers and cost accountants working for/with Renault/Nissan probably have a lot more experience with these things than you do, and a lot better understanding of what goes into building a G37 to be sold at the price point Infiniti wants to sell the car at than you do. Could we possibly give these people a little benefit of the doubt that they really do know what they're doing?

redhed
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dmkozak wrote:
I will never cease to be amazed at the number of people who think they know, but have never done.

I spent 25 years as a contract r&d driver for one Euro sports car manufacturer and another 6 years (mostly overlapping) with a domestic SUV manufacturer. I have spent hours and hours discussing and costing out various ways of manufacturing and options/option packages. Many times things I think are so simple, end up being so confusing to the manufacturing process that they simply can not be done.

Now, with all due respect, the engineers, developers and cost accountants working for/with Renault/Nissan probably have a lot more experience with these things than you do, and a lot better understanding of what goes into building a G37 to be sold at the price point Infiniti wants to sell the car at than you do. Could we possibly give these people a little benefit of the doubt that they really do know what they're doing?
now that manufacturers have the ability to "build" several models from the same and even different platforms on the same assembly line (which is a very complex task)...you can't convince me that making a sunroof an ala carte option is that difficult...and that it can't be done without losing assembly plant efficiecy.

dmkozak
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redhed wrote: you can't convince me
And, lucky for me I do not have to. Learn, or do not learn. The choice is yours.

redhed
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dmkozak wrote:
And, lucky for me I do not have to. Learn, or do not learn. The choice is yours.
and learn from your posts i haven't because you basically have regurgitated what we've heard for years. you seem to ignore that there have been advances in building automobiles in the last ten years...and there will continue to be changes to improve efficiency and productivity. and those efficiencies don't entirely hinge upon the ability to only offer several options packages. mark my words, the car maker(s) that are on the ball with flex manufacturering will be the ones to start offering more flexible optioning of their vehicles.

for now, all i'm asking is that nissan make the sunroof on the G a stand alone option on all models. not an insurmountable task!

dmkozak
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redhed wrote:
and learn from your posts i haven't because you basically have regurgitated what we've heard for years. you seem to ignore that there have been advances in building automobiles in the last ten years...and there will continue to be changes to improve efficiency and productivity. and those efficiencies don't entirely hinge upon the ability to only offer several options packages. mark my words, the car maker(s) that are on the ball with flex manufacturering will be the ones to start offering more flexible optioning of their vehicles.

for now, all i'm asking is that nissan make the sunroof on the G a stand alone option on all models. not an insurmountable task!
Yea. I still don't think you get it. I work with automobile manufacturers on a daily basis. I have spent most of my adult life involved with automobile manufacturers. I hate to assume, but I am going to assume that living in Aberdeen, SD you do not have any direct contact with automobile manufacturers, so you probably do not have any direct knowledge about what it actually takes to design, manufacture and sell an automobile which complies with all regulations and market requirements.

Yes, what you are asking is not an insurmountable task. But, it is a task which 1) is only requested by a very small minority of potential buyers, and 2) would raise the cost of the vehicle you want by a lot. So, Infiniti has chosen not offer what you want.

Please note that manufacturers who do offer a sunroof delete option charge roughly $1,500 for such option. Maybe the better question here is if Infiniti offered such a sunroof delete option, would you be willing to pay $1,500 more (or even more, as a dealer would charge full MSRP and a non-refundable deposit because they do not want to be left with such a sunroof delete vehicle if you do not buy) for your car and wait up to 6 months to get it?

redhed
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and on the flip-side, when i ordered my loaded-to-the-gills king ranch f150 a couple years ago the sunroof was a stand-alone $800 dollar option not tied to any packages. infiniti could do this...they just choose not to. more money in their pocket is what it amounts to.
Modified by redhed at 4:01 PM 10/1/2007

dmkozak
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I realize this thread has gotten off course, and I do not want to get into an endless debate with you, but, as I said, you do not understand this. You only want to see this through your eyes.

Infiniti has determined the vast majority of their potential buyers for this car prefer a sunroof. So, they design the sunroof as standard. Ford, on the other hand, has learned that few of its truck customers want a sunroof. So, they make it an option. Now, some manufacturers who make sunroofs standard have a "sunroof delete" option for factory orders. But, the cost of the sunroof delete option is about double the cost of the sunroof option.

That is how it works. Since having no sunroof, but having the rest of the Premium Package items, is so important to you, please accept the fact that to Infiniti you are an oddity.

Now, I am out of here.

DC G-Man
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"Why cant we all just get along" ( I wanted to use that one, finally)

Lets just all drive real fast, under the speed limit and safely of course and enjoy your ride!

Trader J
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I just bought my G37 Sport 6MT without a sunroof or any packages on it. All I wanted was a rear spoiler on it, and they had it. Infinity of Davie, FL (Warren Henry).Walked in Sunday, bought the car Monday... I called three dealers, it wasn't very common without a sunroof, but they're out there.

Please continue the debate...

DC G-Man
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Trader J wrote:I just bought my G37 Sport 6MT without a sunroof or any packages on it. All I wanted was a rear spoiler on it, and they had it. Infinity of Davie, FL (Warren Henry).Walked in Sunday, bought the car Monday... I called three dealers, it wasn't very common without a sunroof, but they're out there.

Please continue the debate...
Your trying to incite a UFC competition death match.

Hope you didnt have to pay a premium to have that puppy. They are rare to find. Sounds like you got lucky and didnt need to order it. Did you have to pay MSRP for that one?

Hope Redhed can find one soon.....so every one can ride in Peace!

Enjoy your sunroofless ride!

redhed
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i'd gladly accept a sunroof as part of the premium package...except it limits headroom too much. i can't possibly be the only person out there that has an issue with sunroofs and headroom...i'm only 6'1"!


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