I'l save you some trouble. I just went through their online inventory. 12 Sport models in stock, all with Premium package. 1 Base in stock.UX149 wrote:Try Grubbs Infiniti in Texas. They have over 40 G37's in stock and claim to be the largest Infiniti dealer in the US. Good Luck.
The moonroof is listed as an individual option for the Journey model, at $1000. I don't think you can get a moonroof in the Base model.redhed wrote:i really wish nissan would make the sunroof on the G37 a stand alone option. cause, i'd really like to get the premium package sans sunroof. why is this so hard these days????
Manufacturing efficiency. Production line efficiency. Parts ordering efficiency. Warehousing efficiency. Most importantly, wiring loom and installation labor, including robotic, efficiency. All of which help reduce the purchase price of the car.redhed wrote: why is this so hard these days????
.......cause thats efficient..!!??dmkozak wrote:
Manufacturing efficiency. Production line efficiency. Parts ordering efficiency. Warehousing efficiency. Most importantly, wiring loom and installation labor, including robotic, efficiency. All of which help reduce the purchase price of the car.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
sorry, but with flex manufacturing and with all the preassembled "stuff" that is delivered to factories from outside suppliers, it can be done efficiently today....there is no reason everyone who wants the premium package should be stuck with the sunroof whether they want it or not. if the sunroof is a standalone option on the journey model...it can be with all other option packages too!dmkozak wrote:
Manufacturing efficiency. Production line efficiency. Parts ordering efficiency. Warehousing efficiency. Most importantly, wiring loom and installation labor, including robotic, efficiency. All of which help reduce the purchase price of the car.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
I will never cease to be amazed at the number of people who think they know, but have never done.redhed wrote: sorry, but with flex manufacturing and with all the preassembled "stuff" that is delivered to factories from outside suppliers, it can be done efficiently today
now that manufacturers have the ability to "build" several models from the same and even different platforms on the same assembly line (which is a very complex task)...you can't convince me that making a sunroof an ala carte option is that difficult...and that it can't be done without losing assembly plant efficiecy.dmkozak wrote:
I will never cease to be amazed at the number of people who think they know, but have never done.
I spent 25 years as a contract r&d driver for one Euro sports car manufacturer and another 6 years (mostly overlapping) with a domestic SUV manufacturer. I have spent hours and hours discussing and costing out various ways of manufacturing and options/option packages. Many times things I think are so simple, end up being so confusing to the manufacturing process that they simply can not be done.
Now, with all due respect, the engineers, developers and cost accountants working for/with Renault/Nissan probably have a lot more experience with these things than you do, and a lot better understanding of what goes into building a G37 to be sold at the price point Infiniti wants to sell the car at than you do. Could we possibly give these people a little benefit of the doubt that they really do know what they're doing?
And, lucky for me I do not have to. Learn, or do not learn. The choice is yours.redhed wrote: you can't convince me
and learn from your posts i haven't because you basically have regurgitated what we've heard for years. you seem to ignore that there have been advances in building automobiles in the last ten years...and there will continue to be changes to improve efficiency and productivity. and those efficiencies don't entirely hinge upon the ability to only offer several options packages. mark my words, the car maker(s) that are on the ball with flex manufacturering will be the ones to start offering more flexible optioning of their vehicles.dmkozak wrote:
And, lucky for me I do not have to. Learn, or do not learn. The choice is yours.
Yea. I still don't think you get it. I work with automobile manufacturers on a daily basis. I have spent most of my adult life involved with automobile manufacturers. I hate to assume, but I am going to assume that living in Aberdeen, SD you do not have any direct contact with automobile manufacturers, so you probably do not have any direct knowledge about what it actually takes to design, manufacture and sell an automobile which complies with all regulations and market requirements.redhed wrote:
and learn from your posts i haven't because you basically have regurgitated what we've heard for years. you seem to ignore that there have been advances in building automobiles in the last ten years...and there will continue to be changes to improve efficiency and productivity. and those efficiencies don't entirely hinge upon the ability to only offer several options packages. mark my words, the car maker(s) that are on the ball with flex manufacturering will be the ones to start offering more flexible optioning of their vehicles.
for now, all i'm asking is that nissan make the sunroof on the G a stand alone option on all models. not an insurmountable task!
Your trying to incite a UFC competition death match.Trader J wrote:I just bought my G37 Sport 6MT without a sunroof or any packages on it. All I wanted was a rear spoiler on it, and they had it. Infinity of Davie, FL (Warren Henry).Walked in Sunday, bought the car Monday... I called three dealers, it wasn't very common without a sunroof, but they're out there.
Please continue the debate...