G37 with Nitrous

[CYO44Baseball32]

How do you think our cars would respond with something small such as a 50 shot or 75 shot of nitrous installed on the engine?

[ArEs23x]

Wow your anxious to get that car running aren't you ha ha, I would say to be careful with the car, but I don't see why it wouldn't respond too well.

[G_whizz]

Check out GWoods in this thread

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He has experience with Nitrous if you want to pick his brain... he's a cool guy!

[TESLAASTRO]

IMO forego the idiotic nitrous and make a donation to JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation)....

you're reaching the point of diminishing marginal returns with your car....

[Beancooker]

zerothread/231254

That has some decent info as well.

You can hook up a bottle safly to any car these days. Use a wet system, a WOT switch, and a window switch, 1 step colder copper spark plugs, and you're good to go.

[infinitgkid]

not a big fan of the laughing gas...

but if you want to spray your car its up to you... I just hope that you get it done right because you will regret it in the long run...

and when i mean regret, i mean if it isn't done properly, that NO2 will be you primary fuel source when trying to hit highway speeds...

so yeah do your research...

you will have fun though

[rn79870]

Nitrous has been around for years. It is a economical and engine safe way to get 100 extra ponies when you need it and not have to pay the price when you don't. It's perfectly safe when used correctly when a few simple rules are followed. It is NOT a fuel, nor has it ever been. It is "on demand" and not available when you try to hit highway speeds. Typically the bottle lasts about 4 runs, so use on the highway isn't practical, hence no problems with it hitting highway speeds.

It is a system designed to increase the amount of oxygen that enters, and thereafter is burned within the combustion chamber. To that end, it isn't any different than a S/C or a Turbo, except Nitrous is only available when you squeeze the button.

If I were racing a G at the strip, nitrous would probably be my one and only modification. When I used the car for daily use, the bottle would be in the garage in a cool corner.

[Focusedintntions]

I've never been a fan of nitrous...to many stories of things going wrong with it.

"Bottles are for babies, real men get blown"

Take the money and save for a s/c.

[CYO44Baseball32]

zerothread/231254

That has some decent info as well.

You can hook up a bottle safly to any car these days. Use a wet system, a WOT switch, and a window switch, 1 step colder copper spark plugs, and you're good to go.

Nice write up great info! Only one question, with the G37 how would you set this up with the duel intakes. Now I'm looking at a 75 shot wet kit.

[joe603]

I think a 50-75 shot would be perfectly safe. The problem with NO2 is that it's addictive. You'll do a few runs at 50...then 75...then 100. Sooner or later you'll go too far. If it's used in moderation on a stock engine, you should be fine (as long as it's installed properly).

[Beancooker]

Nice write up great info! Only one question, with the G37 how would you set this up with the duel intakes. Now I'm looking at a 75 shot wet kit.

You would run dual 35HP shots.One to each intake.

You don't want to exceed a 75 shot. The added pressures will cause problems with a larger shot. Just as well, if you spray too much, you can end up with pooling or puddling, and getting spray when it's not wanted, or detonation. If this is something you're seriously considering, hit me up via email. There are a few things that I can explain over the phone, better than on a keyboard.

i mean if it isn't done properly, that No2 will be you primary fuel source when trying to hit highway speeds...

WTF are you talking about? N2O isn't a fuel. It's well, go read the article that I posted. Then you'll understand.

It's an oxygenator. It adds oxygen to the combustion chamber safely. It also has the nitrogen bonded to the oxygen molecule, which help keep the cylinders cool. I could go on for days about this, but go research it. My break time is almost over.

[Jacko3]

Beano:

Excellent write up. I feel like I know everything I need to know about nox. Thanks a million on this article. I have been asking myself for the past few days, how did I ever find myself in this world of auto modifications? This beats me.

[CYO44Baseball32]

Yea i'm def thinking about it, I'll probably wait till I get back to Jacksonville and hopefully my buddy in the Navy comes back around then and we can do it together. I'll shoot you a msg when I getting close to ordering.

[TeflonG35]

I have considered No2. I think im going to worry about headers and cats first. Then I'll decide.

[Beancooker]

For the record, it's N2 O

Two nitrogen molecules, and 1 oxygen molecule.

[CYO44Baseball32]

If I'm going to install this will I need to cut holes in my fujita intakes to install the lines and I guess if I install in the trunk I'll have to run the line down the passenger side and through the firewall in order to get to the engine bay, unless there is another way. I don't like that the battery will be that close to the line too.

[Beancooker]

Te only place that is safe to store the bottle, is in the trunk.

Yes, it would probably have to go down the passengers side, and be routed near the battery.

Two things about that. First, cover the steel braided hose with some insulating material, so there is no possibility of a spark, and the hose will be fine.

Second, remember, n2o isn't flamible. It's just an oxygenator. So being close to the battery isn't an issue, other than the fear of a ground through the steel braiding, and that ruining your hose.

If I can make a suggestion, go with Nitrous Express. http://www.nitrousexpress.com/

[CYO44Baseball32]

will i have to drill holes in my Fujita intakes?

nm i read the instructions
Modified by CYO44Baseball32 at 4:36 PM 6/21/2008

[Beancooker]

Yep, holes are a must.

But, if you mount the nozzles on the underside of the intake tubes, then if you ever pull off the system, you can plug the holes with a very thin cut piece of threaded rod, and two thin (low profile) nuts. No one would ever notice.

[CYO44Baseball32]

I check the website and they have a duel intake kit which i'll probably get. I guess I'll get the 75 shot one when I do order. I'll def call them and shoot you an email when I'm getting close.

Still a little scared about possible installing wrong or just ruining my engine though.

[Beancooker]

You should be fine, as long as you run a WOT switch, and a window switch.

Calling and talking to a tech, not a customer service rep, is a good plan. That's one of the things that sold me on NX express. They were able to answer my few questions in full, and have great pricing.

[gwoods]

You should be fine, as long as you run a WOT switch, and a window switch.

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Also run water meth injection, use a wide band AF gauge and let off the nitrous button for shifts.

[Beancooker]

Using a WOT and window switch eliminates the "button". The window switch cuts off the nitrous before the shift point, and won't let it spray until after you reach whatever RPM you specify.

Water and meth injection isn't necessary with a small (75 shot) system.

Can't agree more on the need for a wideband.

[CYO44Baseball32]

whats the wideband?

Also this is what makes a good forum, people who have knowledge in different area and can help other who have knowledge in others. Thanks for the help guys

[gwoods]

My kits had 5 safety features.

RPM window switchWOT switchButtonIn cab electric fuel pressure gaugeFuel pressure safety switchWide band AF gauge

But I did have a 75 hp shot and a 125 hp shot combined its 200 hp.

Why did my motor and transmission break?

Here is the link to the wideband I used

http://www.widebandcommander.com/

It was very easy to install and performed great for about 6 months before I sold the truck.

before I had the wideband commander I had a Innovate kit,

http://www.innovatemotorsports...s.php

I liked the Innovate because it had he capability to do so many things but it never worked properly. I was given 2 brains for it free from Innovate and finally just got my money back. It was more involved to install. You had to do a lot of the wiring yourself.

[Beancooker]

whats the wideband?

A wideband measures your fuel to air ratio. You need to keep an eye on it when you spray, since you don't want to run lean while spraying. That causes the melting of rings, holes in the pistons, and melted electrodes on the plugs.

Wow Jeff, sounds like a fine system you had. I'm guessing it was a 2 stage, Direct Injection?

What was the "button" was it an arming, or activation/spray? ***EDIT***After reading what I posted, I am also guessing that it was activation/spray, and would only spray, if you were at WOT, in the specified window, and within a certain specified fuel pressure range?

Probably won't help with overspraying, but this is one of the slickest gadgets I've seen in quite some time.

http://www.jandssafeguard.com/

[gwoods]

It was awesome.... when it worked.

The 5.7 Hemi intake manifold was designed to be DRY so it puddled fuel on the inside and outside of the manifold. I never had a backfire bad enough to crack it but I did eventually replace it with the 6.1 hemi aluminum manifold.

I had one run at the track in March with both stages hooked up and ran a 15? with an AF of low 17's! The truck was normally low 14's about as fast as the G in the 1/4. Faster in the 1/8th.

I pitted and the intake manifold had a puddle of gasoline on the outside of it and the nitrous solenoid was hissing nitrous. With the ignition OFF.

The solenoid hissing was grain of something that had made it into the nitrous line and blocked the solenoid from closing. The fuel puddle was fixed with upgrading to a 6.1 manifold and moving the nitrous nozzle farther away from the throttle body so the fuel could atomize a little bit more completely before entering the intake manifold.

I never did get a run at the track with the nitrous working correctly but I'm sure 200 hp would have been good for 2 seconds so I imagine the truck ran 12.2-12.5's at 110's. I had 2 bottles in the bed and only filled them once before I sold the truck

The truck taught me not to modify your daily driver, which is why the Infiniti is stock.

[kmech_7]

I've never been a fan of nitrous...to many stories of things going wrong with it.

"Bottles are for babies, real men get blown"

Take the money and save for a s/c.

i got blown.....vortech style....lol

[Beancooker]

It would be nice, but the difference is about $5k.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Well I think my 310HP G is plenty fast.. Mond money goes to BEER AND GIRLS lol

You guys really know your Shi* about the N2O LOL Nice Discussion

DJ