G35 POLITICS... WHO YOU VOTING FOR?

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W661335PF
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OK, let's do this in a civilized way.... the ground rule is simple: no haters, no folks calling others names, no making insulting or condescending comments about others, no bad- mouthing anyone or anyone's candidate. So, if you decide to respond, BE RESPECTFUL!!!

Who are you voting for at this point and why? Obama, Clinton, McCain or Nader (yep, he just made his bid today)?

Remember-- BE RESPECTFUL

My Vote: Obama 1st... and if Hillary was going up against Ann Coulter, I'd take Ann

Why-- keep in mind that I'm speaking from the perspective of a foreigner exposed to the Bush-Cheney policies as a recipient and not as an America. Why Obama:1) Obama's "Reagan touch" will allow him to actually make progress on the domestic issues that have vexed the US for two-plus decades. Like Reagan, he has the political and rhetorical skill to use the bully pulpit of the presidency the way it's meant to be used. Obama can convince broad swaths of the public to agree with his policies, which agreement he can then leverage to get Congress behind those policies as well.2. On foreign policy and security, Obama's leadership and judgment makes up for what he lacks in experience. No one is truly "ready on day one" to be president. There is no job in the world that can prepare you for it -- not First Lady, not Senator, not anything. His approach may very well garner more cooperation and positive feedback from foreign governments than the other 2 main candidates. The bigger issue is not experience, but leadership and the ability to create a culture that will work with and not against you.3) Obama is clearly the more electable choice (as evidenced by polls), and an Obama-McCain race would be a refreshing change of pace in a country that's had more than its share of divisive battles that can only end in a near-50/50 split. What matters are the dynamics of the race, and all the dynamics of an Obama-McCain election favor the Democrats. Anti-McCain Republicans are much more likely to stay home and let Obama become president than to stay home and let Hillary become president. Also, a Hillary presidency may very well result in gridlock given her strong negatives in congress.
Modified by W661335PF at 12:38 PM 2/24/2008


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What happened to the explanation of why you are voting for Obama???

Or are you like everyone else and voting for "change" with Obama without really knowing why???

And yes I am being respectful, I am just really really wanting an Obama supporter to explain to me why they think this guy is the Savior of our country. I just don't see it but I am sure that based on the overwhelming fainting spells and excitement and "miracles of change" that I see going on at his rally's he will manage to find a way to slip into the Oval office.

As for me, I am undecided at this point except to say that I will not be voting for Obama.


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Obama, McCain, Satan, Billary. In that order. Obama because anything else is more of the same.

If Hillary wins, that means that the US will have been under a Bush or a Clinton for the last 20 years. Adding 8 more years and the 20 becomes 28 years. That is 10% of the US presidency. Add to that, Chelsea (born 1980) will be old enough to run for president in 2016.

That's my opinion.

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W661335PF wrote:OK, let's do this in a civilized way.... the ground rule is simple: no haters, no folks calling others names, no making insulting or condescending comments about others, no bad- mouthing anyone or anyone's candidate. So, if you decide to respond, BE RESPECTFUL!!!

Who are you voting for at this point and why? Obama, Clinton, McCain or Nader (yep, he just made his bid today)?

Remember-- BE RESPECTFUL

My Vote: Obama 1st... and if Hillary was going up against Ann Coulter, I'd take Ann

Why-- keep in mind that I'm speaking from the perspective of a foreigner exposed to the Bush-Cheney policies as a recipient and not as an America. Why Obama:1) Obama's "Reagan touch" will allow him to actually make progress on the domestic issues that have vexed the US for two-plus decades. Like Reagan, he has the political and rhetorical skill to use the bully pulpit of the presidency the way it's meant to be used. Obama can convince broad swaths of the public to agree with his policies, which agreement he can then leverage to get Congress behind those policies as well.2. On foreign policy and security, Obama's leadership and judgment makes up for what he lacks in experience. No one is truly "ready on day one" to be president. There is no job in the world that can prepare you for it -- not First Lady, not Senator, not anything. His approach may very well garner more cooperation and positive feedback from foreign governments than the other 2 main candidates. The bigger issue is not experience, but leadership and the ability to create a culture that will work with and not against you.3) Obama is clearly the more electable choice (as evidenced by polls), and an Obama-McCain race would be a refreshing change of pace in a country that's had more than its share of divisive battles that can only end in a near-50/50 split. What matters are the dynamics of the race, and all the dynamics of an Obama-McCain election favor the Democrats. Anti-McCain Republicans are much more likely to stay home and let Obama become president than to stay home and let Hillary become president. Also, a Hillary presidency may very well result in gridlock given her strong negatives in congress.

Modified by W661335PF at 12:38 PM 2/24/2008
Hillary is my first choice because of her experience both in Washington and her attempt on getting health care passed for all Americans. Also we would be getting more bang for the buck with Bill's experience.Hillary knows what she is up against when it comes to dealing with lobbists, healthcare & drug companies that want to continue making huge profits while they screw Doctors ,Hospital providers and consumers.Keep in mind that when the Clintons left Washington they left with a balanced budget and no debt. Under Bush we have pissed away over 1 trillion dollars in a misguided war that got approved with a bunch of lies and For those that listen to right wing talk radio all they do is keep bringing up Monica & Bill. That was nothing compared to what George Bush has done to us. Our standard of living has been fallling while our debt and borrowed money has been increasing. The loss of manufacturing jobs, the loss of the middle class under Bush tax cuts to the top 1% borders on criminal.We need to get the hell out of Iraq & stop spilling American Blood over there. Let them kill each other but we have no business being there. The people who were responsible for 9 11 came from Afganistan.As far as Obama is concerned, if he gets the nomination, I will support him.I do not see another Republician in the white house for many years.To those old enough to remember the inflation that this country faced after Viet Nam, get ready. The dollar will continue to fall for many years to come to pay for this $uckin war.Just my opinion

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