G35 Brembo brake setup on s14

[raw0330]

Just wondering if the Brembo brake setup off of a G35 will fit the s14 se like the z32 brakes did. I want more, but the security of knowing that in case of emergency--go to autozone for pads instead of ordering and waiting really appeals to me. I was very disappointed when I learned AEM doesn't make their big brake setup for the Z.

[Dano]

just run OEM Z32 brakes, i have em and they work great!

-Dan

[raw0330]

I have the OEM Z32 brakes, and I want bigger. they're just not enough. If you haven't tried them, I highly suggest you find somebody with the AEM big brake kit installed and drive their car. the difference is amazing especially for the price.

[aither]

The brembo spindle bolts are too large. You will have to either drill out your spindle bolts, or space the caliper's bolt holes. With that much front bias front brake lock could be very dangerous in an emergency situation.

Also, I've had no noticible fade with Z32 front brakes. What are you doing that would cause so much heat?

[cosmo]

I remember there being a writeup on FA, somebody did it, after everyone doubted it being possible, I'd check there too

[w1ngzer0]

bigger or thicker rotors? I don't think bigger calipers are going to solve the fade problem.

I am thinking computer wise of course

[Bronze MFP]

you can always get the z32 brembo gran tourismo brake kit, something like 13" rotors with the brembo calipers and some kick@ss pads. SCC did it on their project silvia, looks pretty sweet...

i pretty much agree with aither though... i have z32 brakes all around and just got back from a little testing session in the mountains... couldn't get them to fade for anything, and i can lock em up anytime, anywhere

[Dano]

i have just the front 30mm with stainless lines and slotted brembo rotors, i found out yesterday that im overheating the OEM pads... theyre almost new and theyre both pretty glazed and the passenger side is cracked, so im gonna try a new pad like the hawk hp or something to improve my issues

do u have a Z32 m/c as well? that could help with the fade... wat kind of fluid are u using? that will affect it too

-Dan

[raw0330]

I do hve the z32 brakes all around and I'm not noticing any fade, however I'm just looking for sheer stopping power. lockup doesn't intimidate me, I just want to stop as fast as possible. However, this is still a street driven car and I would like to keep as much oem parts as possible. I figured the new Brembo setup on the G35 would be quite an upgrade, and still stock and readily available. By the way-I'm a firm believer that it's not necessarily power that wins races, but brakes and setup.

[raw0330]

I had the Brembo drilled rotors, and EBC green stuff pads, but I warped the rotors in about 2 weeks, and chewed through the pads in a couple of months. So, cost effectively, I went to autozone and bought the cheapest equipment with the longest warranty I could find. lifetime warranty on their carbon metallic pads and one year on the rotors every time I decide to replace them. The stock setup I warp in about 2 weeks.

[aither]

It sounds like you need better tires if you want to stop in less time. The brembo set up will only be an improvement if you are overheating your current set up. Before thinking about the bremebo stuff, I'd look at high quality fluid, pads, and rotors.

[llamabeta]

It sounds like you need better tires if you want to stop in less time. The brembo set up will only be an improvement if you are overheating your current set up. Before thinking about the bremebo stuff, I'd look at high quality fluid, pads, and rotors.

[raw0330]

I've used the best quality equipment, and still overheat them. that's why I'm looking for a further upgrade. In fact, I'll probably be selling my current setup (calipers, steel lines, etc. ) if I can find something bigger. lockup is not the problem. traction isnt my problem. I'm sick of shaking my watch off my wrist after I bang my first good off-ramp.

[gabossie]

What are you doing that is POSSIBLY overheating the Z32 brakes? Nothing but heavy track racing could really do this. If you're talking about warping rotors or shaking, it's because 1) you didn't seat the pads correctly, or 2) You are getting the rotors really hot, then stopping the car and not letting the breaks cool sufficiently. This is a care issue, not a size issue. I can guarantee you're not warping the rotors because of overheating them while daily driving the car, and bigger brakes will do NOTHING to help you stop faster, they will prevent fade (which happens when the breaks and fluid get to hot). If you want to stop faster, cut down on the weight of your car and get better tires. If you want to get rid of the shaking, take care of your brakes and go through the propper procedures to seat new pads. No need to spend a couple grand on a Brembo kit that you don't need.

Now... If I'm wrong, and this IS the result of long hard track sessions, please let us know.

[Chingon]

r compound<--best braking mod

on a sidenote, I saw a new se-r w/the brembo calipers the other day. don't know if it was a nissan option or custom job..

[cosmo]

r compound<--best braking mod

on a sidenote, I saw a new se-r w/the brembo calipers the other day. don't know if it was a nissan option or custom job..

Nissan option, 12" rotors with Brembo calipers(not sure how many pistons) sans ABS though

[raw0330]

Please explain 'seating the pads correctly'. I just want to make sure it's not something I'm doing incorrectly, just the fact that I drive extremely aggressively.

[C-Kwik]

If you are warping your rotors and wearing through pads that quickly, are you sure the brakes are not binding? A binding caliper or two will cause the rotors to run hot all the time and put constant wear on your pads. If it's happening in both rotors, make sure you don't have the brake pedal adjusted so that it is engaged partly all the time. Just a thought...

[chmercer]

http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

here is a faq on how to properly bed in new brake pads.

it seems you are wrongly educated in a few areas? just in case you have some misconceptions, let me go over the basics -

- larger brakes will do nothing to make your car stop faster. the main proponent in shorter stopping distance is your tire compound, if i am not mistaken.- if you are not fading your brakes (ie slowly increasing pedal travel, to the point of not being able to lock up your wheels) there is absolutley no reason to change your braking setup. It will actually make street driving more dangerous to have oversized brakes, because you increase your chance of lockup in a panic situation.

"I do hve the z32 brakes all around and I'm not noticing any fade, however I'm just looking for sheer stopping power. lockup doesn't intimidate me, I just want to stop as fast as possible. However, this is still a street driven car and I would like to keep as much oem parts as possible. I figured the new Brembo setup on the G35 would be quite an upgrade, and still stock and readily available. By the way-I'm a firm believer that it's not necessarily power that wins races, but brakes and setup. "

larger brakes will not give you any more "sheer stopping power" than your car had in stock form. If you want to stop as fast as possible, invest in some grippy tires and weight reduction.

"I had the Brembo drilled rotors, and EBC green stuff pads, but I warped the rotors in about 2 weeks, and chewed through the pads in a couple of months. So, cost effectively, I went to autozone and bought the cheapest equipment with the longest warranty I could find. lifetime warranty on their carbon metallic pads and one year on the rotors every time I decide to replace them. The stock setup I warp in about 2 weeks. "

one thing to consider - drilled rotors reduce the mass of the rotor, causing them to overheat quicker, and develop fractures. they also chew your pads up much quicker. drilled rotors are purley a "rice" mod. i highly suggest ordering blanks the next time around. if you are warping rotors i suggest replacing pads and rotors at the same time, you could possibly be getting hotspots on the rotors/pads causing them to warp. if you dont replace both at the same time, the deposits from the old equipment can affect your new hardware as well. A proper bedding procedure will (most of the time) prevent hot spotting and other types of ailments.

[raw0330]

If larger brakes do nothing to add to stopping power, then explain why every highline (factory upgraded) car comes with larger brakes than the base model cars. Also, if memory serves, drilled rotors were invented to dissipate heat quicker due to larger surface area and directional vaning to channel out heated air. I mentioned the AEM kit which includes only larger diameter rotors and stock caliper relocation brackets. Check out the system. It really works phenominally. Also, larger rotors and larger calipers; pads specifically, increase the braking surface area which clamps the rotors more quickly, thereby reducing braking time, and in effect distance, and total heat buildup. That's the reason I am looking at the g35 brembo setup, as well as the fact they're easier to clean than the z32 calipers. And they look really cool. I still haven't gotten a definite answer whether or not the calipers adn rotors will fit on the s14.

[Dori Dori]

First of all, don't every buy EBC green stuff again. They destroy rotors. Thank you.

Second, yes you are correct in your thinking that a larger rotor will give you more 'stopping power' (proper term is braking torque), but the real benefit is the larger surface area which provides increased heat dissipation. Same goes for the caliper/pad. When designing a part, the main priority in braking is reducing heat, not increasing braking torque. If you want to reduce stopping distances (don't confuse this with braking torque), as others have said, get some good tires.

Third, drilled rotors are and always will be the subject of much controversy. Some companies believe in them (Porsche to start with) and others don't...I'm not going to get into it here, but I will say this: I personally don't like drilled (or slotted, dimpled, both, whatever) rotors and frankly I'm surprised you're so gun-ho to get them. Why? Because in this very thread, you're complaining about brake pedal feel...how you want them "smooth". Well, take into consideration that a drilled rotor will provide more noise and oscillation through the brake pedal than a blank disk.

Forth, if you care about your stopping distance, fade, or any other aspect of braking, you'd NEVER EVER EVER buy sh1tty azz autozone brake pads. Keep an eye on your pad wear and you'll never have an 'emergency'. Go buy yourself a good pad.

Fifth, I think you spilled the beans when you said you want them b/c they look cool and are easy to clean.

If all you want is more brake torque, you can also get upgrade kits for Z32 brakes. They usually consist of a plate that extends the z32 caliper away from the spindle (just like AEM) and use some type of readily available rotors (mustang, vr4, ect).

[Dori Dori]

Here you go:http://store.yahoo.com/ginnmot....html

[raw0330]

Thak you for that link. that's exactly something like what I've been looking for. However, the cost in my case is also an issue. I have the ability to get the g35 brembo setup for $200 including stock pads and rotors. I just want to know if this will fit on the car. And of course as a side note I included that they look good, too. Asthetics plays a large part in anything. I'm a strong believer in form follows function, however for example, if a lightweight set of wheels was hideously ugly, they wouldn't hit your car. You'd go looking for something else. By the way-I went with EBC pads because I've had very good luck with them on my bikes. What would you guys suggest for pads?

[Chingon]

hmm for $200 sell them to me, i'll make them fit, and then I'll tell you about it...!!

[raw0330]

Very funny!! However, if they don't work, it's a waste of $200.

[Dori Dori]

I love hawk pads. I was previously using thier HPS compund but recently switched to the more aggressive HP+. The bite is AWESOME with the HP+, but dust increased substantially. Noise slightly. I'm guessing they'll do a number on my rotors to...we'll see. I'd recommend the HPS for a good street/perfomance pad though.

[hannibal]

If they dont work, I'm sure a G35 driver would pay $200 to upgrade to the Brembo setup.