G35 Auto Stock Vs. 04 SRT-4 Neon from a 60mph roll
G35 Auto Stock Vs. 04 SRT-4 Neon from a 60mph roll
Ok me and these guys on srt forums are kinda going back and forth because this guy with a stock 04 srt4 says he just walked away from a G35 from 60 to 100+..they're saying because the g35 had a passanger and the srt didn't and the srt had it's spare tire removed that i'm an idiot for thinking that the g35 should have won....They said that the 50hp advantage it has on the srt-4 is negated because of the drivetrain loss and the extra 500 or so pounds....I said that's what the torque is for, and they still act like i'm dumb...Am i really that far off base? Shouldn't a g35 walk away from a stock srt-4 Especially on top end? I even showed them the drag coefficient for the g35 at .26 and zero front end lift and they said that doesn't matter even when their srt4s are horrible non-aerodynamic.....Help me out guys, lemme know if i'm totally wrong or if it should have happened that way....Thanks in advance...
In my very honest opinion, they are so close to each other in ability that it is just too close to call. Drivers race. From a roll, the SRT4's are quite deadly. G35's would have a momentary advantage from a very slow roll or from dead stop. The SRT4 has a hard time hooking up since it gets into boost pretty darn quickly. From a roll, they could run the gears correctly to maintain close to full boost, and that's just not easy to overcome. Also, keep in mind that their engines are underrated. They have a bit more TQ/HP than advertised.
I starting walking away from a G35 coupe by the top of 3rd gear. An SRT-4 will own my car. The only way your G35 is going to win, is if that SRT-4 has a speed governor.
I could be wrong though. I only raced the G35 up to about 90mph. At that point, I was pulling on him.
Don't feel bad though, you can pull women with a G that wouldn't go anywhere near an SRT-4.
I could be wrong though. I only raced the G35 up to about 90mph. At that point, I was pulling on him.
Don't feel bad though, you can pull women with a G that wouldn't go anywhere near an SRT-4.
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cool deal guys thanks.....not a pride issue i drive a 93 240sx not even a g35 or an srt4.. i just didn't know, figured the 280 hp and 270ft/lbs of torque would help some since srt4s have problems with cars with less power and about the same weight but i dunno...what i don't understand is how some magazine ran a 13.7 with a stock 350z and a 13.7x with a 04 srt-4...but i have seen numerous ones run at a track and both cars run 14s consistantly....so oh well, just checking...
stillmatic wrote:Here's the difference between the 03 and 04 SRT-4.
03 SRT-4No LSD215 @ 5400rpm horsepower245 @ 3200rpm ft/lbs torqueBest 1/4 mile time: 14 secs flat
04 SRT-4Stage1 Mopar upgradeLSD230 @ 5300rpm horsepower250 @ 2200rpm ft/lbs torque1/4 mile time: mid 13's
Your information is incorrect. The '04 SRT4 does not have the Stage 1 MOPAR upgrade. That is still a seperate purchase. The only differences are that they rated the engine closer to what it actually makes (still underrated) and added the LSD unit to all '04 production vehicles.
uno wrote:cool deal guys thanks.....not a pride issue i drive a 93 240sx not even a g35 or an srt4.. i just didn't know, figured the 280 hp and 270ft/lbs of torque would help some since srt4s have problems with cars with less power and about the same weight but i dunno...what i don't understand is how some magazine ran a 13.7 with a stock 350z and a 13.7x with a 04 srt-4...but i have seen numerous ones run at a track and both cars run 14s consistantly....so oh well, just checking...
The SRT4 puts right at or slightly under those "factory rated" numbers to the wheels...so add 15% to the Dodge published numbers and you'll have a better idea on what they really make. Then they have the not so expensive Stage 1 and now Stage 2 upgrades from MOPAR performance.
The SRT4's you see at the track are just having a hard time launching. If you launch too low RPM, you bog...too high, you smoke the wheels forever. It has to be a perfect launch to get those mid to upper 13's on the SRT4.
And as far as power to weight ratio, the SRT4 slaughters everything it competes against. It weighs 2900 lbs and has a real crank HP rating of right at 260 HP (and 280~ish TQ). Compare that to the G35C which weighs 3435 lbs and has a crank rated (and very accurate for once) 280 hp (270 tq).
You end up loosing something like 15-20% of your power from the crank through the driveline with an automatic. I am not sure how much power from the crank the automatic G-35s loose. The G had some important obstacles to overcome. Added weight from the vehicle and passenger. Parasitic power loss through the drive train. But I think a lot would have to do with the gearing of both cars. I would tend to think that the SRT-4 would win this race on paper, but who really wins the looks department? Which car gets the chicks?
Cold_Zero wrote:You end up loosing something like 15-20% of your power from the crank through the driveline with an automatic. I am not sure how much power from the crank the automatic G-35s loose. The G had some important obstacles to overcome. Added weight from the vehicle and passenger. Parasitic power loss through the drive train. But I think a lot would have to do with the gearing of both cars. I would tend to think that the SRT-4 would win this race on paper, but who really wins the looks department? Which car gets the chicks?
Who cares about the shallow whores that you can only pick up with a certain type of vehicle? I sure as hell don't. And besides, we're debating performance issues here, now talking about the best way to contract STD's...
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