fwd or rwd motor?

[cuzan0]

well just like the subject says is it a fwd or rwd motor???? and if it is fwd does the block have the holes where i can mount rwd mounts??? the reason im asking is cause im picking it up next weekend ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

[NeedCAforS13]

it looks to me like RWD... the exhaust o2 pipe appears to angle down like the RWD one rather than the FWD one which is sharper. I think its an older (non intercooler) s12 motor:) but to answer your question, even if it is FWD, all you need is the RWD mounts, the bolts are in the same location!

BTW, excellent buy darrell... I figured you'd be checking out that auction:)

[cuzan0]

im getting it cheaper than what it sold for in that auction due to the non payer

[NeedCAforS13]

have i told you how much i hate you today?:pface j/k

wanna send me that extra head you get with it? I have a block thats screamin' for a new head:D

Sean

[cuzan0]

well we can make a trade if you want????get on aim sean

[boost_boy]

Yeah, it's RWd alright and is the model of the 1st RWD CA18DET. Not a bad catch...........

[f s t caz]

i'd bet fwd. notice the direction of the thermostat housing. vs my motor on the standyou can see the rwd one points to the intake manifold, while the one in that auction points to the exhaust manifold. also, this picture i had on my hard drive

[boost_boy]

It's definitely a RWD model because look where the coilpack is at. On the FWD models, the coil pack is by the transmission end of the valve covers. Also notice the water outlet, the FWD models have a pipe that routes it under the intake manifold. And look at the vibration dampener or crankshaft pulley, it has 3 sections to accomodate belts whereas the FWD only has 2.

[boost_boy]

Here's a pic of the FWD pulley set. As you can see, it only has 2 tracks for belts.

[boost_boy]

Oh yeah Sean, be wary of the design of that head as it will not suit your 2nd gen CA18DET intake manifold without modifications. You would have to use that intake manifold or at least the portion that fastens the plenum to the head or the butterfly valve section. The head has longer ports than the 2nd gen head.

Dee

[pulsar gtr]

Yes it is a RWD due to couple things, the coil pack Location as boost boy says, also fwd it doesnt't have a pipe behind the thermostate pointing out.

Personally, I won't buy it for more than 200 dollars, because it is not as tuff as the second generation of the ca18det, they don't have the crank support metal piece, and they don't have oil squirters. also, the oil fiter isn't coolant cooled like the second generation.

Thanks,

PULSAR GTR

[boost_boy]

Quote »Personally, I won't buy it for more than 200 dollars, because it is not as tuff as the second generation of the ca18det, [/quote] Are you talking about the 1st gen DET? It has the same parts as the 2nd gen DET (ie crank girdle, squirters and even the rods are the same). If you're referring to a USDM CA18DE then no, they do not have the items you are referring to. But the old school CA18DET is just as loaded as the 2nd gen, just have a strange head design to the naked eye that doesn't know any better. But you're right in the fact that one shouldn't pay more than $200 for the thing.

[pulsar gtr]

HUM, the reason I said about the crank girdle is because my first FWD DET engine was 1st generation fwd none intercooled and I took it apart but can't remember seeing the gridle or the squirters, mind that was 4 years ago, when I worked on the 1st generation.I have some pics, when I took the engine apart, I have to go over them again, to refresh my memory.Also, I don't know what nissan was thinking by introducing a non-intercooled engine, surpised the engines don't blow up from the boiling air that is fed from the turbo to the intake.

[NeedCAforS13]

lol! he IS paying $200 for it all, the guy who won the auction never paid, so cuzan0 is buying it from the guy...

and Dee, what part of that head doesn't work with my current manifold? I never realized there was a difference

Sean

[boost_boy]

Quote »and Dee, what part of that head doesn't work with my current manifold? I never realized there was a difference [/quote] Where the butterfly valve section bolt up to the head is where the difference and/or mods need to be. On each end of the 1st gen head, the ports are longer than our circular ports on the 2nd gen heads; leaving major openings. You'll have to see it to see what I'm talking about. And besides that, 2nd gen head does not have threaded holes to accomodate the coil packs. The bottom end is cool, but the head sucks.