FWD CA18 can be converted to RWD?

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I found a bunch of FWD CA18DETs but can they be converted to RWD if I have a broken RWD CA18DET laying around using the parts off that?


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I don't see why not, RWD's have been converted to FWD's so this involve just about the same amount of work.

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minutericesentra wrote:I don't see why not, RWD's have been converted to FWD's so this involve just about the same amount of work.


As long as there isn't any welding involved.

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You shouldn't have to weld or cut anything, just swap parts.

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xtreme where did you come across them?

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anumeric wrote:xtreme where did you come across them?


An importer in Cali, I'll tell you after I find out the answer to this, because if someone gets the last one i'll be mad haha

They are only $500 with everything on em' turbo and all

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1st Gen. or later?

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minutericesentra wrote:1st Gen. or later?


I didn't know they were made past 1990?

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Huh?I was basicly asking if the motor(s) you're looking at have an intercooler. If they don't then they probably will not have a crank girdle, same size rods as the CA18DE and will have an inferior head with not interchangeble intake manifold, but if you're going to swap the stuff from your DET then I guess you wouldn't really have to worry about that. What exactly do you mean by "broken CA18DET"?

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minutericesentra wrote:Huh?I was basicly asking if the motor(s) you're looking at have an intercooler. If they don't then they probably will not have a crank girdle, same size rods as the CA18DE and will have an inferior head with not interchangeble intake manifold, but if you're going to swap the stuff from your DET then I guess you wouldn't really have to worry about that. What exactly do you mean by "broken CA18DET"?


I'm not sure I haven't seen them in person, but my ca18det is screwed, something happened in the #1 and 4 cylinders causing it to have a melt down.

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man Hook me up with a name and number after you get yours, I have a friend looking into a pulsar swap.

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anumeric wrote:man Hook me up with a name and number after you get yours, I have a friend looking into a pulsar swap.


For sure..

But does anyone know for a fact if the FWD CA18DET is capable of being modified (reasonably) to fit in the RWD.

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Well the only real concern I would have is the water pump since everyone says the FWD pump isn't up to the stress of having a fan on it, all the mounts will bolt up, manifolds will swap(as long as it's not the non-intercooled version), I thought someone around here did this already? Can anyone think of a reason it wouldn't work?

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minutericesentra wrote:Well the only real concern I would have is the water pump since everyone says the FWD pump isn't up to the stress of having a fan on it, all the mounts will bolt up, manifolds will swap(as long as it's not the non-intercooled version), I thought someone around here did this already? Can anyone think of a reason it wouldn't work?


Can you show me a picture of the non-intercooled version. I can put my Water pump on it.

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XtremeHKS wrote:Can you show me a picture of the non-intercooled version. I can put my Water pump on it.


http://community.webshots.com/...LuRMI

I found it already, it looks like the manifold is an over the top style on the non-ic

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yeah, that's the kind you don't want to get unless you feel like swapping heads and a few other extra things, and the inside of this engine just looks weak compared to other DET's. Try to get the intercooled version if at all possible.

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minutericesentra wrote:yeah, that's the kind you don't want to get unless you feel like swapping heads and a few other extra things, and the inside of this engine just looks weak compared to other DET's. Try to get the intercooled version if at all possible.


Ok... So the Intercooled FWD version will look like this....



Correct?

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^thats it

i know of a 180sx with a bluebird ca18det in it, the intake manifold had to be changed to rwd but not much else apparently, maybe the cam covers to get the breathers in the right place and obviously the exhaust manifold

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Somewhat, it will look like these in stock form,


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Correct me if I'm wrong but the older non-intercooled version also has plug wires instead of coil packs?

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yep.

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minutericesentra wrote:yep.


What did the older one come out of?

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s12 silvia and exa type pulsars (n12?)

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undertaker wrote:s12 silvia and exa type pulsars (n12?)


Last question,

Is the mounting going to be hard from the FWD to the RWD or should I just be able to swap mounts?

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You can just swap mounts, it's all interchangable.

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thats right the RWD and FWD are all the smae when stripped down its just the intake and mounts etc that are different but are interchangable

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It's no walk in the park, but they can b converted either way!

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minutericesentra wrote:You can just swap mounts, it's all interchangable.
its not all swappable im doint his swap right now lol non ic version into a s13 traded even for a ka happy so far but alot of work blocks are different the drivers side bracket has to be modified very minor for it to be safe still working on mine

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Dude, this thread is 8 years old. Thanks for searching though!

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wowie what a blast from the past! haha, thats awesome. fwd and rwd have the same blocks only difference is the parts bolted to it :D


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