future setups! not dream ones...

[ayjay]

I just decided to post somethin cause this board is kinda dead at the moment...

this thread is an excuse to rant about what your FUTURE setup will be, or upgrades to your current system... this is not a thread to post about your dream setup, it is a thread to post about what you can actually afford and what you plan on doin with your system in the future...

ok i'll start

[ayjay]

currently have the CDT CL-641 3-way component set, which are installed in custom door panels which i made. i haven't really been happy with the panels ever since i made them, but they hold the speakers in pretty cool positions which would not be possible otherwise and they do the job...

but i've decided to go kinda stealthy so i'm going to build kickpanels for the 4's and tweets, and sound deaden the doors as good as possible and put the 6.5's in there which would give them loads of airspace. reason why i wanna put 4's and tweets in the kicks as opposed to the 6.5's is because i need better imaging, and having the entire midrange/highs up by the door handle kinda smacks you right in the face.

i'm happy with my Memphis ST-200 which is powering them, gives em' nice clean sound and plenty of headroom (100x2 rms)... but my Eclipse 55430 isn't doin soo well... every once in a while, right channel gets real quiet and left channel gets super loud. I know it's the deck and not hte amp cause it did the same thing with another amp i had. So i'm either gonna go with an Alpine 7995, or a SONY (yes a Sony) C910. I like the rare stuff :pface (BTW does anyone know if the C910 has sub control??)

sub... ahh yes the sub I have a 15" Digital Designs 9015 DVC 2ohm, just sitting in my room because i blew my crappy Tsunami after my friend cranked the remote gain knob so I am SERIOUSLY looking into getting (not a dream) a Soundstream TR1600/2... it's part of the tarantula series and it's a FRICKIN BEAST... dimensions are 30"x12.5"x4" (yes 2.5 feet long), weighs about 30 pounds, and puts out 800x2 @2ohm, or 1600x1 @ 4ohm bridged. so i would run my DD in series bridged at 4ohm so that way i could get 1600W of the nicest bass

enclosure of course will be a full fibreglass enclosure, which i have yet to start because i need to keep my 80 lb MDF sub box in the trunk to add weight for the winter i'm still undecided as to create either a swappable slot port (for street and competition) or just going with the standard 4" circular ports...

so what do you guys think? (sorry for the long post but i just wanted to go off)

[ayjay]

who wants to talk about power door locks?? :rolleyes

cmmon' guys, post some shizzle...

[Simmsled]

I would like to have a McIntosh CD deck with CDT Eurosports (along with the image enhancing tweeter system) in the front. In the rear, I would have some kind of CDT speakers as the rear fill. I would probably put the Image Dynamics ID MAX 12 in the rear.

[Dano]

im getting a MP3/WMA Alpine deck with some cheap components and 1 10" eclipse alum. thats whenever i have the money for it. that setup will satisfy me nicely:)

-Dan

[Checkered-Member]

upgrading the deck to a Premier DEH-P750MP (6V outputs) vs the 2v right noe i'm all like Wsaaaaaaaap

[Dano]

im probly goin with the Alpine CDA-9815

-Dan

[ayjay]

I would like to have a McIntosh CD deck with CDT Eurosports (along with the image enhancing tweeter system) in the front. In the rear, I would have some kind of CDT speakers as the rear fill. I would probably put the Image Dynamics ID MAX 12 in the rear.

wow simm... goin all cdt hey? i can only dream of buying the Eurosports... $$$ but hey, what amp you plannin on runnin to them?

[ayjay]

oh ya, my future setup is also gonna involve re-sealing the hatch somehow... i think i've blown the seal pretty good, cause the hatch is rattling more than ever now. Anyone ever try re-sealing their hatch or have any ideas on how to make the hatch more solid?

[QX4MIkey]

Well- I'll chime in.

I'm a HUGE CDT Fan and am very happy with my HD62 and the IEKs. BUT for next year's comp season, I will be doing the following updates/upgrade to my system.

Head Unit : Alpine 7995 - Stays

Amps: Hifonics Series VII - Stays unless I get a really good deal on TRU Tech amps.

Front Components : Replace CDT HD62 with the Euro Sport 3 way and building Kick Panels for the 4" and Tweet. With IEK of course.

Subwoofer: E12O will most likely be replaced with an E12A in the same box.

Will definitely do some Sound Deadening.

So new gear will be

-CDT ES 3 Way (But will consider 2 way)-E12A-Deadener-Maybe Kick Panels

Thats itMike

[Simmsled]

Checkered Member... I have a Premier DEH P940MP that my roommate is going to sell soon because he wants a McIntosh cd player. Let me know if you would be interested.

[ayjay]

hey mikey, BY ALL MEANS GET THE 3 ways!! my buddy has the 165k3 polykevlars, and there is no comparison at all in terms of midrange between his 3-ways and the 165k2 (2-way) components. if it means spending an extra $300, go for it :P haha easier said than done, but i don't think i'd ever go back to 2-way components.

btw, have you run into any probs with your 7995, like the rotary knob all of a sudden not working for equalizer control? the problem can be fixed by just resetting the deck, but i was just wondering if you've ever ran into that prob...

[ayjay]

oh and for DOPE sound deadening material you guys should check out RAAMat 60... really thick stuff, and doesn't need heat to be applied. check it out here: http://www.raamaudio.com/products.htm

62.5 sq.ft for $100 us, is a pretty damn good deal. enough to do trunk, doors, and a few other body panels...

[ayjay]

UPDATE! (wow i'm just goin off in this thread :pface)

well since the center cap for my DD is carbon fibre, i'm just gonna build a carbon fibre box for it i went to a local car audio shop who do some of the best installs in Canada, and talked to their installers about it. turns out it'll be 1/3 the weight of of a fibreglass box, but also 3x the price. but i figure if i do CF, i won't really have to worry about painting it, just give it a clear coat :P i never really considered it before, but carbon fibre is used the same way as fibreglass by using resin... in order to get the depth and perfect smoothness of carbon fibre hoods and shizzle, you need to bake it... but i don't really care THAT much

oh and i'm no longer gonna get the Soundstream tarantula amp... the same installers that i was talking to hate those things cause they suck soo much current and aren't very reliable. now i'm just gonna downgrade and go with a Memphis ST-1000D (1100W RMS @ 1 ohm) that way it will match my ST-200 that i have driving my components...

that's about it!

[QX4MIkey]

Sounds like a great plan Ajay!!

BTW, Raammatt is awesome stuff. I know Rick personally and he is an awesome guy to deal with and hang out with.

I think I'll stick to the 2 way ES620 as I get really good deals on them and I want to keep it somewhat Stealth by using OEM locations and the Tweeter mount kit that comes in the Braxial models.

Mikey

[maxI30t]

ayjay are you planning to make the CF box yourself?!?!

[ayjay]

ayjay are you planning to make the CF box yourself?!?!

ya man i am i've already done some major fibreglass work before (hovercraft, door panels, etc.) and i was talking to a guy who knew his shizzle about making custom enclosures. apparently a carbon fibre box will weigh 1/3 the weight of a fibreglass box, but will cost about 3x as much to make. he said it's about $30 for a yard of 1oz carbon fibre cloth, and you'll need to do around 3-4 layers of it... so i figure i'll need about 6-7 yards of it to do it properly. of course the box will need some major support work, cause the DD has a 200oz magnet and I MIGHT NOW be feeding it 1000W through each voice coil (U.S.Amps 2000x) so some serious excursion would be involved.

once all the layers of carbon fibre are layed, i'll probably just bondo up most of the rough spots and make a smooth surface for a final layer of carbon fibre to be layed down and clearcoat that so that it looks half decent... of course it won't have the depth that the CF hoods would have cause i'm not baking this box... would need some bigass Kitchen Aid oven to do that :pface when you bake it, you need to have a mold for it, and the CF kinda vacuum forms into the mold and gets rid of all the bubbles and makes it look all nice and shiny... but i figure that as long as the box looks half decent, and i can say "hey look! i made a CF enclosure for my sub!" then i'll be happy enough...

so i might be goin with a U.S.Amps 2000x, which is a class A/B and does 1000W x 2 @ 2 ohm, or 2000W bridged @ 4ohm... haha i'm always changin my mind :rolleyes

[Simmsled]

ayjay, im going to run my Precision Power PC4800 amplifier on those CDT's.

[NY94J30]

Simm,

Is your PP the same as the PCX480 (4X80w @ 4 ohms)? That's an amp I'm looking at now - if so, how do you like it?

[ayjay]

that pc4800 puts out 4x80 doesn't it? that's pretty sweet... i'm runnin 100W rms through each side of my 3-ways, FLAT... no hpf or anything, cause i they don't distort up to the point where i SHOULDN'T be listening to them any louder :pface does that make sense?? haha. the midbass is really good on the CL's runnin them that way... can't imagine how much the eurosports would pound...

have you heard of those sound reflection "bricks" that Focal came up with? you put them on the inside of your door (not door panel) right behind where the 6.5" is mounted... apparently they cancel out many vibrations and rattles that you would get otherwise, cause they reflect the sound directly back towards the rear of the speaker... i dunno, fuked up shizzle... expensive shizzle but it might be somethin to consider if you want to do a crazy good SQ install. i might be splittin a pack of it with my buddy, cause you only need like half a box of it to do both doors (2 bricks per side) but it costs somethin like $150 for the box... but focal reps did a demo on it and apparently the difference is unbelievable between a door that had them installed compared to a door that didn't...

[Simmsled]

100 x 4 at 4 ohms... 200 x 4 at 2 ohms RMS POWERFan Intercooled

hrmm.. sound reflection bricks you say? i'll have to look into that.

[diamondj30]

kraco

[Simmsled]

The PCX is the series that was released after PPI got bought out by ADS/ORION. The PC was the last of the true PPI designed amplifiers. But the Art Series were the last of the "Designed and Made in America" amps. Although I have never heard or compared the PCX series... PPI continues to be one of my top 2 amplifiers for car audio. I love the sound... the reliability is top notch... but the amps look like mufflers. People with PPI amps stick with them. I would be here all night typing stuff about PPI and my obsession with them, but trust me when I say that they are great amps. After I bought my first PPI amp in 1997, a 4 channel PPI Art Series A404.2 with liquid intercooling, I was hooked... I still have that amp, my dad uses it in his daily driver. Let me know if you want to know more.

[ayjay]

haha i'm on crack... those focal bricks do the complete opposite of what i said :pface they ABSORB (not reflect) sound waves... the stuff is considered sound absorbing, rather than sound deadening material

check it out here:http://www.focal.tm.fr/bancs/e...1.pdf

[audtatious]

I'll bite...

System will consist of the following:

Speakers:MB Quart .75" tweets in stock pillar locationMB Quart 6.5" mids in doorsFactory rear door speaksJL 12w6 sub

Amp(s):a/d/s PH15 (6x50)PPI A600 for sub (maybe)Small 20x2 Sony amp for rear door speaks

Signal Processors:Audio Control 4xS XoverPPI PAR225 pre-amp EQCarver/KLW Phantom Bass Processor

Misc:Factory 6-CD headunitPAC converter4ea 1 farad Stinger Caps

I already have all the equipment except the PAC converter and the Quart .75" tweets (my 1" tweets won't fit). For SQ, the PH15 will be more than adequate for the whole system. If I decide to go bass-heavy, the A600 will run the sub. If the factory HU does not work well with this setup, I have an older Eclipse ECD-413 to replace it with.

Hopefully installed this winter.

[ayjay]

audtatious, that looks like a pretty good setup! post up pics of the install once you finally get started on it..

[ayjay]

hey you guys ever heard of Audison amps? they make some REALLY nice stuff... a local car audio place has this Extreme Team, and it's basically a team of people who have wayyy too much money to spend on their cars... each car has upwards of $15 000 installs (most expensive one being $40 000) but they are all loaded with audison amps and focal speakers/subs, and always win the SQ comps.

just thought i'd mention Audison, cause barely anybody seems to knows about them... check em out at http://www.audison.com

their HR-100 is pretty sweet... for $10+G's it better be puts out 100W and tells you when the optimum operating temperature is reached

[Simmsled]

OHHH (druel) Audison.. ayjay... they are so sweet. I heard one of their systems with a Sony Mobile ES (back when they were good, not X-Plod) and a set of MB Quart Q components. Simply awesome.

[ayjay]

speaking of sony's mobile ES series, their XM2100G amps are crazy! dual mono amps for left and right channel, and they are seperated by this copper plate that runs down the middle of the amp, looks sweet... puts out 100W RMS x 2 @ 4ohms and you can sometimes get them for CRAZY cheap on ebay...

my buddy is runnin one of them to his Focal 165k3's and he says it sounds a lot better than his U-Dimension 10.4... Mobile ES is the shizzle, but Xplode is just shizz :pface

[audtatious]

audtatious, that looks like a pretty good setup! post up pics of the install once you finally get started on it..

Yeah, I'll do a writeup on it. In fact, I just ordered my MB Quart tweeters