future plans...RX7 vs. VR4

[drifter_for_life06]

Well heres the thing, im debating on what to get further down the road, a FD3S(RX7) or a VR4(AWD twin turbo mitsu. 3000gt). I would like your input on what you think would be a better choice, and if anyone has experience with either vehicles please post what you thought. Please keep in my im nto worried about cash so dont base your opinion on pricing. Thanks, and if anyone has some sites on the VR4 that are good id greatly appreciate it if you could post them.

[ride4lame]

If money is not an object get an RX-7. VR4's are rediculously heavy. They are pretty quick, but wont ever handle as nicely and easily as an RX. thats my opinion

[Rockenreno]

http://www.3kgt.com

My friend has a VR4, that thing will slam you into the back of your seat if you push on the gas. Only problem is it has a real weak transmission, which my friend discovered when he blew out the synchros for second gear in his first race at the drag strip.

I would say a lot depends on personal preference and what you're doing with it. RX-7 would be my choice if you want a 2 seater, but the VR4 offers the back seats too (about the same size as the back seats in my 240). You gotta love AWD, but the RX-7 will outhandle it any day. Either way, I don't think you could go wrong.

[nissanrcer240]

are you more into drag racing or track racing? vr4 for drag racing i would say especialy if money is not an option b/c theyre high maintance......main reason why i didnt get one

you gotta love the rx7 though, like Rockenreno said, either way you cant really go wrong imo

[drifter_for_life06]

Thanks guys ill take that stuff into perception, im into track but i tihnk the AWD mught be good for track, depending on the conditions

[-HyJynX-]

Hmmm..id go for a RX7 just because its a better handling car and can make some power. Bad side is they a ****** to maintain.

[matchstyc]

My brother has a VR4 and he lets me babysit it sometimes. All I can say is if you want a car that can put you in the back of the seat. VR4! Everyone says they're heavy but the AWD and AWS make it handle pretty damn well in my opinion. The maintenance on a VR4 is expensive though. Definetley something to consider. And I personally can't compare it to an RX7, never driven one.

[Shift_Oversteer]

Like they said man, the vr4 youll be able to launch and would be a drag strip beast.... but the rx7 is like one of if not the greatest sports car ever to come out of japan. If you want a nimble GT type car then id say take the mazda. Theyre both really nice looking but ive driven both and for me it would be hands down the mazda

[EnzoRWD]

how abouts a galant VR-4?? tasty!better yet: turbo II FC, then leftover cash for a galant VR-4-Enzo

[drifter_for_life06]

I dont really care for those galants

[nuQ]

i've driven both, and if a gun was to my head, i'd pick the mazda. both are very fast, but for the ability to throw around the mazda comes out on top. IMO!

[NeverEnuff]

id arge with enzo go for a t2 rx7 fc inles you have to have the look of the fd the fc is much cheeper alltho you sed it dint mater wen it comes doun to 2000-5000 vs 10000-whatever iv see them sell for over 40k and not much dif wen it comes to handling and both are light and can ez make good power

[NeverEnuff]

oh ya and fd rx7 vs vr4 the rx7 is faster and handels beter and a biger after market vr4 sint a bad car but the rx7 is a much beter car imo

[drifter_for_life06]

Thanks guys for the input, please keep it coming, and does anyone have links for info,vids,pics,parts website for the VR4, kind of a site like heavythrottle.com too maybe?

[Mr1der]

I'd go with the FD, the DSM is high dollar to fix (not that a seven is exactly cheap). I've seen some of the numbers on a Stealth R/T for parts, scary stuff...

I think the FD is a much more elegant and sleek looking car too.

[GELLIS2586]

Defineately RX-7, Light fast beautiful. The vr4 is bad though. Ive driven one and it was fast as hell. All it had was a boost controller set a 15 psi. I was going to buy it but my dad pushed me into the 240 cause it wasnt as fast.

I hate parents.

[Japican]

2 of my best friends own each and id day w/ personal experiences to go w/ the RX7. My friend on his 1st launch w/ the VR4 messed up his clutch and trans b/c the cars a damn boat. But on the other hand lots of mechanic work on the RX7 is required.

[drifter_for_life06]

Thanks for the help, still not sites?

[hadokenny]

rx7! god those things are sexy!

[llamabeta]

RX-7 all the way. The RX-7 will require a little more of a keen eye when monitoring the vehcile but if kept up she will keep chugging along. My friend is actually on his 2nd transmission for his VR-4 (91 MY). After I get done rebuilding the engine (Error on my friend's part) I'm going to pull the transmission and replace the synchros with some uprated ones he found. The synchros get the crap kicked out of them with that car. If you don't car about sharp handling and quickness and prefer to doze along with the security of AWD then go for the VR-4. They have huge footprints stock and make some good grip. Not to say the car wont bite back, for I have gotten the car in some decent slides.The VR-4 sure does pull hard though. Starts to slow down around the 150ish area. (Don't ask me how I know. =P) Some increase in boost and flow will correct that.RX-7 for the purist who really enjoys handling. But don't think the RX-7 cant put down some wicked power.

Best of luck to you on whatever decision you make.

[rico05]

I would Say an FD. I have a friend who has owned both, and after putting his VR-4 into a tree, he got a 1993 Touring Pkg FD and he says that he would never go back. After college I plan on getting an FD myself, and having owned an FC I can say that any RX-7 will be the greatest car ou will ever hope to own. Don't ever let the rotary's bad rap effect your choice as about 90% of engine failures can be prevented, but when dealing with a 13B-REW, the twin turbo setup is actually the biggest factor in engine death. (Heat) Ever looked under the hood of an FD? Barely any space to see the driveway underneath as everything is jam packed in there. The turbos make a lot of heat in a small area and the tiny stock radiator is really a comprosime Mazda had to make. Water seals between the housings are made of rubber so heat makes them warp and crack, allowing for cooling to mix into the combustion chambers and exhaust gas to enter the cooling system (same thing as a head gasket being blown) Either ditch the twins or upgrade the cooling system FIRST and you will enjoy your RX-7 experience for a long time. Cruise on over to http://www.rx7club.com and tell em rico05 sent you;)

BTW: I have taken a ride in both a 350hp FD and a 350hp VR-4 and the sound of the FD was enough to make you want to slap your mother. Nothing sounds like an uncorked rotary...I miss mine now:(

[krazy skwerel]

What no MKIV Supra? I have to say the Rx-7 as well. Though I almost bought a vr4. Then decided maintnace was gonna be way too much. No Z32 either. I would definatly consider the Z32 and Supra along with the other cars.

[rico05]

JzA80s are too dang pricey (I mean $25k for a 1993?) They are pigs too and if you are a fan of drag racing, I say go for one. I would never own one in a million bagillion years (Although they are good at what folks use em for, going fast on the highway...but so are VR-4s) I'd say you should consider a Z32 as well. One of my ex-girlfriends older brother had one. He let me drive it once. It was stock, but damn it was awesome. They are getting chaper now as well.

Oh yeah, if you do get a FD, and the engine has been rebuilt, make sure they have the receipts for the work. Call the shop that did it and talk to them. There are a LOT of shady rotary builders out there.

[drifter_for_life06]

Thanks so much for all the input guys, i already have a Z32 on the way, i am talkna bout getting a VR4 or FD3S way downt he road, so taht why i didnt consider the Z32.

[Mr1der]

why stick with Japanese? I think you need a DB5!

[180fan]

FD all the way. If power is an issue, install a 20B cosmo in there. Even without the cosmo, the power capabilities of the twin turbo are amazing. Basically the same power as the VR-4 just without AWD. There is always space to install a huge monsterous turbo with a rotary, not to mention its low center of gravity. The VR-4, you've got space limitations as it's a 6 banger and there isn't too much space for monsterous power via turbo to be installed in it without encountering more problems. Reliability issues shouldn't be too bad with the FD once it is up and running. The VR-4 is too heavy for real track duty. Yes it's good for drag, but aside from that, you're looking at a very big cost to over come it's greatest limitation, the transmission.

[nissanrcer240]

hadokenny, you know whos 7 that is? looks like a viper front end with rx7 head lights lol

the 3000gt's dont look too bad either

[MainEvent212]

i'd say probably....hmm...FD with SR20DET swap....

*flame on folks* i'll explain later :pface

[nolaws4evr]

ive seen that FD with the SR, its bad news. I would have to say that since money isnt an object, get both of them. seriously tho, I really like the FDs, especially their sexy a$$ exotic bodies. but the VR4 really does it for me, I really like the awd, aws, active aero, everything. I think you need to step back and look at exactly what you are goin to be doin with your car, track and handling?? or strip and street? the vr4 is going to do alot better on road trips with its better suspension and all the electronic goodies it has, but for a track monster it would have to be the rx7.

a great site to check out is 3si.org just spend a little time there and youll fall in love with vr4s/stealth TTs

[k6kicker]

ever concider a z32? most mags give it the overall nod out of the early-mid 90's jap sports....