Full clean photos of the 2012 Camry

[Jesda]

http://jesda.com/2011/07/30/2012-camry- ... amouflage/







Yep, its a car.

[darens13]

another nice, slab-sided, bland car. thanks toyota!

[Kompresshun]

I think I actually prefer the current one, but I suppose it's an improvement. I still don't like them though, regardless of how much they try to dress up it's blandness.

The rear end looks like they copied it directly from a Lexus and the front end looks like a Lexus GH and a Corollas love child. In between it looks exactly the same, so in short, it's just as dumb as the previous ones.

[Loki]

The front end reminds me of an old, grouchy mustachioed man. Rear end isn't so bad.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Cleaner than the current generation, but the proportions have devolved still further. It really does look like a giant Corolla.

The tail lights are a mess.

I kind of like the C-pillar. It reminds me of the late-90s model (easily the best-looking Camry). Unfortunately it's flows blandly in to a too-stubby decklid which, also like the late-90s models, angles downward too much.

All that said, I'd say it's probably the 2nd or third nicest looking Camry design simply because it's one of the cleanest. Ignoring those tail lights anyway. But then "nicest looking Camry" isn't exactly a high bar to clear.

[Mr1der]

I was gonna post some sort of snarky remark about how boring it is but fell asleep on my keyboard.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Am I the only one seeing that abortion they are calling foglights? WTF is going on there?!

Also looks like quite the negative camber in the rear.

[JoeCool6972]

THAT IS ONE FUGLY CAR! And after the way those a**holes handled the sticking throttle situation I would NEVER own a damn Toyota.

[Bubba1]

THAT IS ONE FUGLY CAR! And after the way those a**holes handled the sticking throttle situation I would NEVER own a damn Toyota.

Uh, do you realize it was just announced that Toyota was exonerated for the sticking throttle situation?

As far as styling, we're talking Toyota here, not Pininfarina. For the non-enthusiast Clark W. Griswold type that buy family trucksters, it's not great and not awful. kinda bland, which keeps to their formula.

I don't mind the front end, though the foglights look like a slapped on afterthought. I also don;t mind the profile, but the rear looks as if they ran out of design time and connected a bunch of lines, kinda like a Bangle era BMW.

[ADDirishboy]

THAT IS ONE FUGLY CAR! And after the way those a**holes handled the sticking throttle situation I would NEVER own a damn Toyota.

[Jesda]

I dont blame Toyota for the sticky throttle issue either. That's why I never made a thread on the topic, despite my disdain for the brand.

What was disturbing was how they handled the issue, burying it and hiding it instead of confronting it. They seemed more like 1960s GM than modern day Toyota. That cost them a lot of trust with American consumers who have inexplicably perceived Toyota as the vehicular return of Jesus Christ.

Its why Toyota increased its fleet sales (even prior to the autopocalypse) to make up for falling retail sales. These days, you're almost as likely to get a Camry at the Enterprise counter as you are a Sebring or Impala.

[JoeCool6972]

THAT IS ONE FUGLY CAR! And after the way those a**holes handled the sticking throttle situation I would NEVER own a damn Toyota.

Uh, do you realize it was just announced that Toyota was exonerated for the sticking throttle situation?

WTF? Are you kidding me? Are you blind? Deaf? Or just plain stupid? (your post is practically calling me stupid )

The govt exonerated Toyota of all wrongdoing... that just shows how you can buy your way out of trouble. They KNEW the problem was in the ECU (computer) all along. But FIRST they blamed consumers saying they mistaken gas pedal for brake. THEN they blamed floor mats. ONLY AFTER a govt. investigation did they admit it was the ECU. This isn't the first time the a**holes have tried to blame their problems on consumers. A few years ago they had a problem with the valve heads having oil drain back holes that were too small which caused oil to gel up. First they blamed consumers saying they didn't change oil often enough meaning the consumer had to pay to rework the heads or pay for a new engine. Only after a class action lawsuit and the US govt stepping in did Toyota admit fault. How do I know this? I used to be a technician at a Toyota dealer. SCREW TOYOTA! Sorry for sounding harsh tongued, but people's and the media idiocy with this is ridiculous. The government should have banned Toyota from the US, but no all they do is pad some wallets and no harm, no foul... s***!

[MinisterofDOOM]

Personal attacks aren't necessary.

Its why Toyota increased its fleet sales (even prior to the autopocalypse) to make up for falling retail sales. These days, you're almost as likely to get a Camry as the Enterprise counter as you are a Sebring or Impala.

And, sad as it sounds, the Impala's still the better option there. Especially with the brand-new LFX V6 it gets this year. The LS4 is also a nice option.

[Bubba1]

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The govt exonerated Toyota of all wrongdoing... that just shows how you can buy your way out of trouble. :

Do you have any proof that Toyota bribed NHTSA and NASA so they'd alter their findings?

I dont blame Toyota for the sticky throttle issue either. That's why I never made a thread on the topic, despite my disdain for the brand.

What was disturbing was how they handled the issue, burying it and hiding it instead of confronting it. They seemed more like 1960s GM than modern day Toyota. That cost them a lot of trust with American consumers who have inexplicably perceived Toyota as the vehicular return of Jesus Christ.

Its why Toyota increased its fleet sales (even prior to the autopocalypse) to make up for falling retail sales. These days, you're almost as likely to get a Camry at the Enterprise counter as you are a Sebring or Impala.

Jesda, I was under the impression that Toyota inherited a big chunk of fleet sales (especially to rental car companies) when GM and Ford decided to cut back on their fleet sales a couple years ago, providing Toyota an easy opportunity.

As far as trust with American consumers, I agree confidence among Toyota owners/buyers were shaken during the recall, but judging by the rebound in sales, the exoneration by NHTSA, barring any new news of bribery, it appears that negativity is dissipating.

[Jesda]

Jesda, I was under the impression that Toyota inherited a big chunk of fleet sales (especially to rental car companies) when GM and Ford decided to cut back on their fleet sales a couple years ago, providing Toyota an easy opportunity.

As far as trust with American consumers, I agree confidence among Toyota owners/buyers were shaken during the recall, but judging by the rebound in sales, the exoneration by NHTSA, barring any new news of bribery, it appears that negativity is dissipating.

That was a part of it, but retail sales dropped sharply, market share shrank, and earnings dropped by a third even before the earthquake. Signs of decline were evident before the autopocalypse of 2008 and 2009. Toyota soon learned, like Chrysler and GM, that all the fleet sales in the world couldn't make up for individual buyers who have quietly moved on.

And the competition from Korea won't make it easy to win back the "I refuse to buy American" crowd that typically flocked to Honda and Toyota. For many, Korean and Japanese are all the same and Toyota is perceived as a slight risk.

Toyota's management have acknowledged that returning to their former position in the US market will be an uphill battle. Its going to take style, competitive pricing, and driving pleasure to compensate for the loss of perceived quality, safety, and dependability (regardless of whether that perception is based on truth). Building beige won't cut it anymore, thankfully.




Toyota does have at least a couple families who will be forever loyal:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyuxqcSClrw[/youtube]

[Solar_Runner]

Hi, my name is George and I'm a Toyota fan. It's been 4 hours since I've last driven a Toyota.... oh crap! Wrong forum! . Anyways, having said all that and jumping past the overly assertive newb, there's not much I like about the new Camie, except maybe the wheels. Back to the drawing board, fellas.

[AZhitman]

Hello, Honda front-end. How did you manage to wind up with a Corolla tail?

That said, it's neutral. I don't dislike it, but as Jesda said, it's a very "beige" car (despite Toyota's attempts to be "edgy").

[MinisterofDOOM]

(despite Toyota's attempts to be "edgy").

ROFL. Toyota's definition of "edgy" is the same as Pontiacs: glue on more plastic.



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[Bubba1]

ROFL. Toyota's definition of "edgy" is the same as Pontiacs: glue on more plastic.

LOL, so true. but when kids glue on similarlly obnoxious plastic stuff onto their 140 hp 240sx's, it's considered it hip.

[Jesda]

LOL, so true. but when kids glue on similarlly obnoxious plastic stuff onto their 140 hp 240sx's, it's considered it hip.

Only among slow kids.

Likewise, the Corolla "S" is only cool among... slow kids.

[RicerX]

Toyota = YAWN.

Am I the only one that thinks the only thing that Toyota manufactures that reminds me I have a pulse is the TRD Tundra?

[PapaSmurf2k3]

I hope the FR-S doesn't suck... or maybe I do, in which case I hope Subaru's version doesn't suck.

[Razi]

For the FR-S, supposedly, with the help of Yamaha they recasted every engine part, including the engine block, so their engine sounds better than their Subaru counterpart.
They also shaped the dashboard ends so you do not need to cut it to install rollcages.
They seem to have put in a lot of effort, even into the smaller things.
I hope it doesn't suck.

[Solar_Runner]

Thinking a bit more, I'd have to ask to check the fog light delete box on this car, if I was made to drive one. The chrome across the grill looks like it came off of the TL.... It didn't work on it either.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

For the FR-S, supposedly, with the help of Yamaha they recasted every engine part, including the engine block, so their engine sounds better than their Subaru counterpart.
They also shaped the dashboard ends so you do not need to cut it to install rollcages.
They seem to have put in a lot of effort, even into the smaller things.
I hope it doesn't suck.

So you're saying the Subie will be cheaper, and sound like a subie. I'm sold.

[Razi]

[Eikon]

It looks like a snowplow with those fog lights sticking out away from the wheels instead of wrapping around like they should.

It amazes me how some manufacturers just consistently suck at styling.. I'm thinking Pontiac, Chrysler, Toyota.. They just don't get it! Even Hyundai is starting to figure it out... but not those three..

[PapaSmurf2k3]

I don't think we have to worry about Pontiac sucking with their new car styling anytime soon.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Doesn't matter. This will haunt my nightmares for eternity.

[Solar_Runner]

my eyes...