fukk!! i think i blew my motor..

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

ok lemme start off by telling you whats been going on wit it.. last week when i was coming home from san antonio it was making a clicking noise.. not real loud but like a like tic tic tic.. and i checked my coolant and it was like a funky brown color too.. and throughout the week its been getting louder.. and tonight i was driving around and i brought my reving to about 4500 and it got real real loud.. and when i let go of the throttle it died.. checked the oil plenty, check the coolant plenty, nothing out of the ordinary.. but my oil light comes on.. so i start my car again and it starts but still a loud clicking sound.. and the oil light flickers with the ticing noise.. so anyways im about 20mins from my house so i drive it on the freeway about 35 all the way.. it really loud but still drivable.. anyways so im almost to my house and i take my foot off the gas and it just goes POW.. and all this black smoke comes out of the back.. and i get to my house on a roll.. and all my coolant is everywhere and my engine is hella hot.. and all the coolant is a brown brown color.. and i think well im more then sure i blew something out because theres like a line of oil or something from when i took my foot off the gas and made that POW noise to my house.. theres like a dark line of whatever... any ideas? im pretty much broke.. so anything helpful would be appriacieted... oh yea im gonna open up my engine.. is there anything i should look out for? and if anything where can i get another used engine or something as cheap as possible.. i just need it to work and back..joe :help

[themadscientist]

sounds like your oil pump took a **** and you threw a rod, look for a knarly hole in the side of your engine.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

on the side of the engine.. like where at? its too dark to go look at it but tomorrow i willjoe

[themadscientist]

don't know on a KA, CAs usually throw #1. Check it in the day, just follow the oil up it will lead you to whatever tried to escape.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

well it still cranks.. not very nice.. lolanyways, i dont see any holes.. anywhere.. just oil all over the place.. and from 2am to now it pretty much emptied out all the oil from the car to the street.. but its still dripping a lil but i cant see where.. but everything else looks fine.. any ideas?joe

[red240ne]

yea, instead of spending money on a problematic engine, just get another KA. that will be cheaper, because there's no way you're getting rid of your 240 right?

[Dano]

sorry to hear about that dude! I wish u the best of luck...its sad to hear these kinds of stories, but its good to hear it waited till u were close to home...

-Dan

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

well there arent too many junkyards here in corpus.. where else can i go to find me another used enginejoe

[SlowFiveOh]

check oil light doesnt always mean you are low on oil. low oil pressure will also turn it on which might explain the noise but you ignored it and kept driving it and revving it high. :rolleyes the oil is the life of your engine, that light comes on- shut it down as soon as you can and find out WHY it came on.

you may have thrown a rod. ive seen it happen and have had to replace a motor on someones car once because of that. like it wa siad above, look for the hole in your block, if its typical of every other KA then it will be in front right at #1 and your piston will be in hundreds of pieces in the oil pan.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

well i just finish looking

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

and all i found was a lil hole on the oil pan which couldve been where my oil had a small leak in it.. but then theres a hole right next to it where its the size of a half a dollar..(i can stick my index and middle finger in it). soo what now? but there arent any other holes in the engine.. from what i can see.. should i open up the top part of the engine and look around.. joe

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

oh yea. so what if i just need to replace the piston and the rod.. where can i find these parts at? and i just ask for the #1 piston and what kind of rod? and when i open up my engine what do i look for when i open it.. im sorry im stupid please help!!joe

[themadscientist]

there is no way of knowing until you open the motor how much damage has been done. If you have indeed thrown a rod it would be more cost effective to get a decent scrapyard motor, clean it up take care of any leaks and drop it in. Rebuilding an engine can get involved and expensive and it sounds like you don't need that kind of greif right now. It couldn't hurt to throw the blown one in the corner of the garage and tinker with it while you drive on the used mill.

[MasterMan]

might be your timing chain

[slw240sx]

well just open it up, take out the busted piston, tha holes you fingered just buy a few things of JB weld an fill them up let them harden for a day or so then start her up, youll only be running on three pistons for now, but hey you dont care after all you ran her on the highway after it was making noises an the oil light was on,oh dont forget to disconect the spark plug from the cylinder you took the piston out of dont want to spark a fire...

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

umm so wait.. take out the fukkd up piston.. jb weld the hole in the oilpan.. let it sit for a day or so.. fill it up wit oil.. fill up my radiator again.. and take out the spark plug from the piston that i took out.. and ill be driving on 3cylinders.. hows that?someone please explain.. remember im stupid...joe

[johnsharpe]

remember im stupid...joe

No offence, but after driving with a loud ticking noise at highway speeds, I can easily see this one....

Sounds like to me as well, you threw a rod and basically killed your motor. The hole in your oil pan is evidence of that...There's no point IMHO, of just trying to replace/repair the damage to one cylinder, who knows what other damage has been done. It would be cheaper to just buy a new motor and get over it.

Now you know what happens when you ignore what your engine is saying...... Good luck!

John

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

again.. i had no money to call a tow truck.. i was about 20mins from my house.. no other way of towing it.. so it was either stay where i was at or drive it.. i know it was a stupid idea but fukk what was i supposed to do

[themadscientist]

Don't feel bad, your motor was probably wasted by then anyway, you saved $50.00 for a towtruck and still made it home. I have seen a timing chain come loose and slap a hole in the timing cover but the hole in your oil pan and the big POW! says rod. Motor is done, yank it and chuck it, well see if the head survived unscathed. It could be beneficial to have an extra. What's your budget for repairs?

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

budget??? errr.. 0$..remember i just payed off all my tickets so i wouldnt get a suspended license.. thats kinda why i wanted to fix it.. unless you all wanna help me and find a cheap engine in the south texas area.. that i can go pick up.. i really have a small small budget.. at the max 1000$ but that would be to pick it up install it and work on it.. i wont get any good money till income tax time.. joe

[slw240sx]

i was joking, damn noone that likes a good joke picked up on this one..... any how you should be able to find a motor in the 500$ range.. check the buy/sell sections..... and if all else get a Ca18det for around 1500 +shipping.. save up for a few monthes then do it...

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

hmmm ca swap??? never really thought about that.. what r some specs on that engine.. i think if im not doing anything.. ill go open up the engine to look around again.. lol my stepbrother is dumbestic mechanic.. anyways he says i should through in a 300zx motor into my car.. that i can probley find a 300motor more then a 240 motor.. is that possible? and if so what year of motor would i look for.. turbo or not that would still be more horses.. right?joe

[slw240sx]

V30det from a late 80s inline 6 turbo will fit with slight modifications... but if you are a novice... try a Ca or Ka24de swap

[Bay Dog]

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[Bay Dog]

Dammit!! wrong button, I'm sure I'll hear it for that!

Well, hat to say it, but welcome to my world.....Last week same thing...Timing chain slipped, put hole in something, let antifreeze into oil, spun bearing, threw rod, engine blown. Yee ha! Also sounds like we have the same amount of $$ saved up for expenses...luck us!! Anyway......

If all else fails, try to find a used crappy 1990 - 1992 stanza. THey have the same engines in them, and should be a standard swap. I have also been told that the older trucks have the ka24e engines in them, but I have not verified that. I was quoted b/t 500 and 800 for labor on mine, and it shouldn't be that much different for you. If you can p.u a stanza for 500 or so, your are done for around 1500??? That is probably the best you are going to be able to do.

Sorry for the bad news but I have heard this helps....:alcoholic

It did me anyway:D

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

a stanza? hmm isnt that fwd.. ive just been lazy today.. i cant drive around in my car.. this sucks.. i got that manual things but its kinda hard to follow.. but ill take a crack at it on christmas eve.. with my stepbrotherjoe

[slw240sx]

yeah the trunk motor is a differnt throttle body/injection stanza FWD get another 240 motor !

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

does anyone have diagrams for the engine and the bottom part of it.. like where the oil pan is at?joe

[themadscientist]

stick an L28 in it from a 280ZX turbo! I found one in a junkyard a couple of years back with the Borg Warner T-5 still bolted to it for $500.00. You want some sack the L will rock!