Fuel ionization, vortex air intake and off-center steering wheel.

[Mr_Q45t]

Background:

I found a pearl (figuratively) in my '95 Q45t w/ 130k.

Purchased her in Scottsdale last month. I recently decided put in used steering rack, which I got from ebay for less than $160. I also installed 4 new Tokico Struts. I found those on Ebay and got the full set for $258 with free shipping.

All she needs is a new fuel pump and valve cover gasket and she'll be purrrrfect.

Question:

I am installing 2 fuel line ionizer on the Q's fuel line nearest the fuel injector (where the fuel line spits into 2). Where can i find this junction point?

Also, I am installing an air intake vortex generator - should be a simple install. Does anyone have any thoughts on its effectiveness on the Q?

Finally, I got an alignment last week and my car goes is straight at all speeds - hands free The problems is that my steering wheel is not straight. It is centered at about 1 o'clock. How to fix this problem?

Feel free to comment on any or all of my questions

[zinkie13]

Anything that actually creates resistance in your intake is a bad thing. Some others can give you a better explanation.

[Mr_Q45t]

I think the point of the vortex generator is to pull in more air, faster.

[CrimsonQ]

I hope this is all a joke. ionoizer? vortex? LOL:)

Thats a nice lookin Q, dont hurt it.

[Mr_Q45t]

I hope this is all a joke. ionoizer? vortex? LOL:)

Thats a nice lookin Q, dont hurt it.

What about EPA reports of substantial drops in hydrocarbon levels in the exhaust from ionized fuel? Mixing the fuel more will also ionize it. Reduced hydrocarbons in the exhaust seemingly indicates better fuel combustion.

I'm not looking for a miracle, just 2 mpg increase, and I will be a happy guy.I am averaging about 20 mpg on the highway, it is sped'd at 22 mpg on the highway.

Fuel injection cleaning, zmax, and new plugs helped a little

[maxnix]

1.) I found a pearl (figuratively) in my '95 Q45t w/ 130k.

2.) I also installed 4 new Tokico Struts. I found those on Ebay and got the full set for $258 with free shipping.

3.) All she needs is a new fuel pump and valve cover gasket and she'll be purrrrfect.

4.) I am installing 2 fuel line ionizer on the Q's fuel line nearest the fuel injector (where the fuel line spits into 2). Where can i find this junction point?

5.) Also, I am installing an air intake vortex generator - should be a simple install. Does anyone have any thoughts on its effectiveness on the Q?

6.) The problems is that my steering wheel is not straight. It is centered at about 1 o'clock. How to fix this problem?

1.) Congratulations!

2.) Hope you replaced all the rubber also.

3.) Because the fluids and rubber are all new?

4.) I got some land in FL I want to sell you!

5.) I got some ocean front property in CO I really want to sell you.

6.) It should be level when aligned. Who were theese guys? Take it back.

[maxnix]

1.) What about EPA reports of substantial drops in hydrocarbon levels in the exhaust from ionized fuel? 2.) Mixing the fuel more will also ionize it.

1.) Have a link to the EPA research?

2.) How would this be accomplished? Long chain hydrocarbons are not polarized molecules.

[elwesso]

agreed with brian. what they will do (my steering wheel was off-center too) is center the steering wheel perfectly and then do the alignment from there.

[maxnix]

agreed with brian. what they will do (my steering wheel was off-center too) is center the steering wheel perfectly and then do the alignment from there.

Exactly, Why we have bubble levels.

[Mr_Q45t]

3.) Because the fluids and rubber are all new?

4.) I got some land in FL I want to sell you!

5.) I got some ocean front property in CO I really want to sell you.

6.) It should be level when aligned. Who were theese guys? Take it back.

-Yes, all the flushes and filters have been taken care of - thought it was a given.

-I hope you enjoy this mockery.-I will take is back to them.

[Mr_Q45t]

Okay, I was misled. Here is the correct report from the EPA proving that the ionizing magnet does not effect the fuel or its combustion.

One thing to note though, the last time the EPA investigated the matter was in 1985. Fuel has very low polarity, wonder if more powerful magnets make a difference.

http://www.epa.gov/orcdizux/co...7.pdf

[DrewQ45]

Powerful magnets work best when they are removing minute metal particles from your oil. You have one sitting in bottom of your transmission pan as well as your differential's drain plug.

Nice looking car BTW. Don't pay any mind to the mockery. Eventually it will fade away and you will become one of the fold. They're a good bunch... sometimes they just forget they were once newbies too. Spend some time here and your knowledge of the car will increase exponentially.... eventually, when your learning curve starts to flatten, you'll look back and laugh too.

Drew

[nuQ]

i agree with Drew,,,just hang in here and you'll learn more than you even need to know about the Q. your's looks very nice btw!!when it comes to fuel mileage on the Q,,,,,if you're getting around 20 on the highway you're right at the "sweet-spot". 80% of my driving in the Q is short distances and i get anywhere from 11 to 15 (although i do drive her pretty hard. hard not to!!!). keep in mind that 99% of the aftermarket "improvements" are junk and a total waste. to maximize fuel economy, make sure you're using quality oil and filter, new air filter, throttle body cleaned, injectors within spec, oxygen and knock sensors functioning properly, and if possible----keep under 3k rpm's (although that is very hard for me----ok impossible!!). don't let some of the jaded here discourage you,,,we were all new at one point. hang in there and welcome to THE BEST site for keeping your Q running like new!

[Aussie Q45a]

Hell, I can't help myself. I just gotta bring up the ACETONE argument again. Do a SEARCH on ACETONE. I hope Wes hasn't deleted it By mixing 100 mls to a tank(80L) of 96 Octane my fuel comsumption has droped from 12 L/100K's to 8.3 L/100K's Highway driving. Do the research and find out for yourself. There was about 4 million posts about it.

[Q45tech]

As to air intake path REMEMBER the engine does not suck in air. The Earth's atmospheric [barometric] pressure forces it into the engine void created by the expansion of the exhaust gases out of the cylinder.

The engine does not create a vacuum just a slightly lower than atmospheric [29.92" HG] pressure.

A highway cruise [where you seem to want improved MPG] the O2 sensor control the mixture and are the limiting factor.

Most of the loss in MPG comes from the fuel not being up to as designed standards! The fuel has less BTU per gallon so more of it has to be burned to create the same speed [RPM].

Oxygenated fuels trick the O2 system into adding extra fuel to maintain the designed AF ratio. If a fuel contains 8% oxygenates, the ecu adds 8% more than designed fuel to try to balance the reading.

Oxygenates are added because they fix emissions on old gross polluting carb engines not because they help modern injected engines.

We are all paying for the old clunkers on the road instead of forcing these vehicles to be retired!

Modern [2002 and later] engines now have expensive WIDE BAND O2 sensors that can sense oxygenates in the fuel and compensate.

Notice that the new 4.5 gets 1-2 mpg better highway mileage......this is because of new O2 ecu design.

If you were to find some magic that allowed more air in you would make matters worse, as the system would have to add more fuel to keep things in balance.

The major fuel hog in modern cars are the tires [which have the greatest friction loss] on the highway. Tires that are good at braking and handling are usually bad as straight highway tires.......good wet weather tires are bad on dry highway.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/repor...2.PDF

If you study the above you will se that oem new tires that came on vehicles are more fuel efficient than even the same NAMED brand you buy as replacements.

Notice the diffence between 30 psi and 40 psi is 1 MPG!

http://autos.msn.com/advice/ar...0utes"They operate on a special laboratory fuel called indolene clear. It's a test fuel that's free of the variability in quality that can be found in gasoline, and it has just eight carbon atoms. As the vehicles run, emissions are collected from the tailpipes. Because the carbon content of the fuel is known, technicians calculate fuel economy by measuring the carbon compounds expelled in the exhaust.

Automakers conduct the tests, using pre-production prototypes of their upcoming new vehicles, the EPA said. You can bet they make sure that anything that would lessen fuel economy—such as underinflated tires, misaligned wheels and poorly tuned engine—are fixed before the test.

The EPA, which announces the top vehicle in fuel economy for each new model year, does its own testing in its own lab—to confirm the numbers from the automakers—on only 10 percent to 15 percent of new models. "

[Q45tech]

Most properly tuned, aligned, tired, fueled Q can easily meet the EPA highway numbers if they use indolene clear fuel and follow the driving cycle [not to exceed 60 mph]. without AC once the tires are warmed to 60-90F

Used engines can actually do better because of ring and bearing wear [lower internal friction] until the compression starts falling from excess ring wear.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Simply enough: "vortex generators" are a gimmick. Right now, most people are VERY concerned with fuel milage, and it is probably the biggest deciding factor for most buyers. That being the case, wouldn't you expect all cars to have "vortex generators" from the factory?There are a few major points that lead me to believe that they are pure gimmick:A) the point I made above--they are purely an aftermarket item. No production car has ever come from factory with one.B) no one I know who has used one has ever shown even neglegible change in fuel economy or power. c) You only ever see cheap, cheezy infomercials for these products. That alone is enough to turn me off from a product.

If you're set on finding out yourself, though, I offer you one suggestion:Don't buy one! You could easily make one yourself in a matter of minutes. Spending $40 bucks on something that MIGHT make NEGLIGIBLE differences in fuel economy seems a bit silly to me.

If you were to find some magic that allowed more air in you would make matters worse, as the system would have to add more fuel to keep things in balance.

That's exactly what I was thinking. The ratio must maintain correct! Why would increasing air induction help fuel economy?

[rsiwicki]

We are all paying for the old clunkers on the road instead of forcing these vehicles to be retired!

My vette is coming out of retirement and will show no mercy on those newer cars that are paying the price for me to drive my car.

Simply enough: "vortex generators" are a gimmick. Right now, most people are VERY concerned with fuel milage, and it is probably the biggest deciding factor for most buyers. That being the case, wouldn't you expect all cars to have "vortex generators" from the factory?There are a few major points that lead me to believe that they are pure gimmick:A) the point I made above--they are purely an aftermarket item. No production car has ever come from factory with one.

I could be wrong, but I could swear that both Mercedes and Ford have a Vortex generator in some of their engines on the intake path. I know they call them something different, but I do know for a fact that 2006 Ford 5.4L Triton V8 (one of the trucks I have been looking to buy) does have something in the intake path that is suppose to improve fuel economy. Mercedes has something else also...but I can't remember what it is and they call it by some other name.

[3rd Q]

Rob,My god, your Vette looks hot!

Paul

[heywier427]

mmm...gasoline...screw o2 sensors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!