front end decision

[s14derrick]

im doing exactly that if i can afford it. I already have kouki tails. i dont like zenki tails but i want zenki navan skirts if i can find them if not kouki skirts and i want the jdm front without the lip. after thinking about what BH said i looked into the jdm kouki lights. they look way better but they are like 200 extra bucks over the usdm ones and i dunno if they are worth it because i am on a tight budget to get my car ready for the spring

[zenki-S13]

keep the zenki

[BrianHarte]

Are you sure they are that much more?

I thought they were same / similar price when I looked into them.

Yes yes

GET THE J LIGHTS

Don't listen to the ones with the fairy tales about light output and whatnot.

[White Comet]

side note- but i love the jdm kouki bumper with the fog lights that go next to the turn signals

[s14derrick]

yeah if they can be found for the same ill def get them . but new at least the usdm ones are 350 for a pair and the jdm ones are 545 thats from the nismo shop though . if i can find jdm koukis ill get them . i've also saw the non projector kouki lights for alot cheaper. but i would rather spend a little more to get oem projectors

[s14derrick]

side note- but i love the jdm kouki bumper with the fog lights that go next to the turn signals

i dont even know if i have seen the kouki fogs before. altough i have the zenki se fogs on it now i would like to keep fogs and swap over the kouki fogs. how much do those usually run price wise?

[IDRFT95S14]

i would keep it, zenkis are now becoming rare everyone is goin kouki or putting some other front

[White Comet]

these guys, i think they look great. i like the jdm kouki front but without the fog lights it looks like something is missing

[s14derrick]

i wanted to stay zenki but i really want a more modern look . and making a zenki look good is really hard and im honestly not good and it if i did i would want clear zenki light covers with a projector retrofit and navan front but that starts getting to be more expensive then the kouki since i already need the zenki light housings them selves . unless i can get covers and a retrofit cheap

[s14derrick]

they seem to fit in well and fill the empty gaps. i know what you mean its kind of liek the zenki fogs without the little inside finishing pieces. it looks weird. i know this im missing them and it looks ugh

[spooled240]

Don't listen to the ones with the fairy tales about light output and whatnot.

can you confirm that the JDM lighting output has no problems with a LHD setup?

[placham]

I remember this from a while back, if you want to stay Zenki and want projectors don't Infiniti J30 headlights fit Zenki's. I have seen this done way back in the day, but don't remember if you need to do any conversions to fit. I can't find any pics now ether of J30 headlights on Zenki S14.Personally if your going to stay with Zenki, you should get S14a tails and maybe JDM S14a front bumper if they fit good, if they dont then Zenki front with S14a tails FTW.

Just my 2cents:pirate

As for rad core support, 99% think their the same for all S14's, and yes it will be welded in, but think BH all ready answered this.

By the way no to go off topic here, has there been done a R32 front on S14, anyone has pics? Just curious how this looks on S14's. Know R33 fits/looks okay.

[FcMURDA]

zenki man!

[s14derrick]

i think they do fit but from what i have seen they look kinda off. i saw the retrofit got chub did and it came out really well. i just dont think i have the fab skills to do it and to pay someone gets really expensive.

[BrianHarte]

can you confirm that the JDM lighting output has no problems with a LHD setup?

Well, how do you mean?A. Is it a problem to me?B. Is it a problem to you?C. Is it a problem to the guy who parks his car in front of a wall and turns on his lights in order to see how straight the lines are?
Modified by BrianHarte at 12:01 PM 1/13/2009

[spooled240]

i'm talking about the cutoff. Idk if you know about the USDM projectors but the cutoff is higher on the right side and lower on the left. I'm thinking the JDM cutoff is exactly the opposite, and I'm asking if you know this for a fact.

this is the cutoff for the stock USDM lights.

[BrianHarte]

I see that you are option C.hahaI usually don't do too much time driving with my lights turned on and point at a wall 3 feet in front of me.

I usually drive on roads and let the light go out in front.

[s14derrick]

I see that you are option C.hahaI usually don't do too much time driving with my lights turned on and point at a wall 3 feet in front of me.

I usually drive on roads and let the light go out in front.

how much would that acctually affect other drivers being they will be on a lowered car?

[spooled240]

I see that you are option C.hahaI usually don't do too much time driving with my lights turned on and point at a wall 3 feet in front of me.

I usually drive on roads and let the light go out in front.

dude what are you talking about? lol, Nissan made the light like that for a reason..the cutoff shown on the garage door is the same cutoff shown when driving like shown in the first pic.

I don't know about you but I actually want oncoming traffic to see the road and not get blinded by my uber rare JDM tYtE cutoff

I take it you don't know about the jdm cutoff?

[BrianHarte]

Oh, I know about all the people who ***** and moan about it.

In my opinion they are just lumped into the same catagory of people who will tell everyone that a cusco cage will break apart and kill you in an accident.

[presidential]

Escalade front.

[spooled240]

Oh, I know about all the people who ***** and moan about it.

In my opinion they are just lumped into the same catagory of people who will tell everyone that a cusco cage will break apart and kill you in an accident.

You know what you are in my book? The type of people that don't give a **** about safety or functionality but just go after the JDM tyte look with snowplow bodykits. oh and I have no clue what you are talking about with the cusco cage, let's try and stay on topic here.

you're trippin bro, I'm just trying to bring up any safety issues that may be a danger when using JDM lights for LHD's.

[BrianHarte]

Uh huh....

Until I see a specific accident occur because somebody was using Japanese headlights that blinded an oncoming driver, I won't ever believe that MYTH.

So, what is the proble? Oh, the lights might aim a bit to the left? Cry me a river.

God forbid a little tiny lowered rice rocket has japanese headlights on a USA road. The world MIGHT end.

I'd be more worried about the lifted trucks and SUVs with headlights that are right in the line of our eyes. I've dealt with that everytime I've driven my 240 at night.God forbid they have HIDs. jesus.

the whole japan vs. usa headlight beam pattern bull**** is so overdone.

DRAMA QUEENS

Since you attacked my "safety issue" I'll go into that a bit.

I don't buy crap parts for my car. I don't buy ebay suspension like most of the people here. I don't buy ebay wheels either.

The suspension on my car is worth more than most people's entire car. I go for quality.

I chose not to run a body kit on my new car because it was a hassle to drive on the street. I don't want to deal with that anymore. Having them break on the freeway didn't make me feel safe. That shouldn't happen anymore.

I don't tint or black out my taillights like a lot of idiots. Jesus, how stupid must people be to think that making yoru brake lights LESS VISABLE is a good idea?

again, the JDM vs. USA headlight beam pattern is a stupid bull**** argument.

[s14derrick]

Escalade front.

Ballin!!

[Stev0n]

i say zenki fenders & corner lights w/ kouki hood, bumper, and headlights. If you've seen it, it's gorgeous i have a pic of it on an s13 hatch i'll post up

[spooled240]

Uh huh....

Until I see a specific accident occur because somebody was using Japanese headlights that blinded an oncoming driver, I won't ever believe that MYTH.

So, what is the proble? Oh, the lights might aim a bit to the left? Cry me a river.

God forbid a little tiny lowered rice rocket has japanese headlights on a USA road. The world MIGHT end.

I'd be more worried about the lifted trucks and SUVs with headlights that are right in the line of our eyes. I've dealt with that everytime I've driven my 240 at night.God forbid they have HIDs. jesus.

the whole japan vs. usa headlight beam pattern bull**** is so overdone.

DRAMA QUEENS

Since you attacked my "safety issue" I'll go into that a bit.

I don't buy crap parts for my car. I don't buy ebay suspension like most of the people here. I don't buy ebay wheels either.

The suspension on my car is worth more than most people's entire car. I go for quality.

I chose not to run a body kit on my new car because it was a hassle to drive on the street. I don't want to deal with that anymore. Having them break on the freeway didn't make me feel safe. That shouldn't happen anymore.

I don't tint or black out my taillights like a lot of idiots. Jesus, how stupid must people be to think that making yoru brake lights LESS VISABLE is a good idea?

again, the JDM vs. USA headlight beam pattern is a stupid bull**** argument.

DRAMA QUEENS?! I'm just pointing out potential problems using headlights not meant for their application, wtf?

just because something didn't happen doesn't mean its safe and good to go/ I'd just hate to DD a car with ****ty/wrong lighting cutoff and get caught driving in bad weather and whatnot. Again, Nissan did their research making different cutoffs for a reason...I'd try and stick with that. I mean unless you show me some pics or something to show me that the different cutoff isn't bad, it seems like a retarded idea IMHO.

[BrianHarte]

I don't think it is right to "bash" the "other" lights unless you have firsthand experience driving with them.

It's not going to be some situation where all the sudden you will turn on the lights and it will be pitch black.

You'll be able to see everything just fine.

I beat the **** out of my 14 enough to know that they (the headlights) had NO type of alignment at all. I could still see.

edit - YES, DRAMA QUEENS. Every time somebody brings up J lights, there are 15 people running to go take headlight photos against their favourite wall OR scanning through their photos folder to find the one they took last Spring or the one "johhnyx240" life took with the optimal retrofit projector housing bull****.

It's just nonsense.

We can go on with the snowball effect if you want to.

You might as well not put on any other type of wheel. Nissan designed a wheel for the car. It should stay.

Also, suspension. Better keep the stock suspension on there. Nissan designed it, so better not change it out.

[s14derrick]

not trying to get in the middle of you two i understand spools concern with safety. but like BH said think about all the lifted SUVs and trucks with hids. my car is lowered just slightly on springs and agx's and every suv or truck i come past with hids blind the **** out of me and i have never had that problem with the few cars i have come across with jdm projectors

[s14derrick]

i say zenki fenders & corner lights w/ kouki hood, bumper, and headlights. If you've seen it, it's gorgeous i have a pic of it on an s13 hatch i'll post up

never saw that before. please post up somepics

[BrianHarte]

Oddly enough, I don't see people freak out as much when they do s13 silvia face or s15 face.It always seems to be the S14 headlamp topic that get's 'em goin'