Front Clip & EPA

Post by **Daunttless** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Things were going downhill well before 9/11 - additionally, our economic practices, involving breeding into our culture the fact that cheaper is better rather than quality has a lot to do with it. It's made a lot of our businesses go to other countries merely to sustain our lust for cheap prices. However, it's a vicious cycle that will eventually end with our collapse as we move entirely to a service economy and our balance of trade goes even further into the deficit with our dependence upon foreign oil. I really don't want to get into it, because I could argue till I"m blue in the face, I can also support basically everything I "believe" with entirely factual and supportable information. Enjoy your day!

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Ack! Look what this has started.

I never intended this to be a political debate about buying from an Amercian company vs buying from a foreign one. Fact is at the time I bought my clip no one had any in and the VERY few that did wanted ~$2K more than FO.

Had I known about all this hub bub in actually getting the clip I probably would have waited and gone with someone else. But that's the past. My money has been spent and the clip is 30 minutes away from my house.

Now the question is how do I get it? If you don't want to help me that's fine, I can't force you. But I'd really appriciate it if you could.

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Throw some money Dauntt's way, see if he could help you out. Say.... $500+ and the chance to smack you in the back of the head for not buying from a good source.

:pface

Post by **S15_silvia** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

here is how you can get it get a black truck and get a few friends and dress in all black go late in the night break in load it up on the truck and drive away as fast as you can :P

Post by **Nathan** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Sounds like a good idea S15, but someone is going to wonder where that engine went...so then he'd be driving around with an illegally imported stolen engine, that cant be good! Too bad it could'nt work like that though...it was my first thought as well, just steal it out of the warehouse.

Post by **S15_silvia** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

yea well even if you drive around with it its illegal hehe yea they would find some way of tracking it down i guess? but id be kinda pissed if they just decided to scrap my engine that i just paid 2500 bucks for because they wanted some chitty paper

Post by **godspeed** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

man what sucks is that Daunttless knows and will not tell you, well, im sure you can find out, and i guess he has a point, i mean if we do find out then we can get sr`s cheaper, but it would still be a good thing to know, i would like to find out, good luck to you man, i would post on othere sites, im sure someone knows....and if you do find out is Daunt going to let you post it....?

Post by **godspeed** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

hope that dosen't sound like i don't like you Daunt....thats not what i meant

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

We're all just assuming he knows, maybe he doesn't. Whatever his reasons, they are his, no one can make him give up the infromation.

Of course I would like his help, but giving it up or not is his perogative.

I just called Customs this morning and they said they'd look at the clip ... hopefully good news.

Post by **Nathan** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

yeah, its illegal if you drive around with it...but at least it would'nt be stolen property! I'd save stealing it back as a last ditch option, and one I probably would'nt even try then...I have a feeling those warehouses have pretty decent security.

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

are we talking about the chance to dress all in black, run around with ropes and stun guns and get one over on the government?

Cool! I'm in.

Post by **DonDonati88** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Daunttless wrote:Things were going downhill well before 9/11 - additionally, our economic practices, involving breeding into our culture the fact that cheaper is better rather than quality has a lot to do with it. It's made a lot of our businesses go to other countries merely to sustain our lust for cheap prices. However, it's a vicious cycle that will eventually end with our collapse as we move entirely to a service economy and our balance of trade goes even further into the deficit with our dependence upon foreign oil. I really don't want to get into it, because I could argue till I"m blue in the face, I can also support basically everything I "believe" with entirely factual and supportable information. Enjoy your day!

Once again to each man his own, eh? Since you seem wealthy... continue to over-pay here in America, and I'll save myself thousands of dollars...... to each his own. By the way how old are you 19??? Tell K to come out of the closet...

Post by **Phax** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

S15_silvia wrote:here is how you can get it get a black truck and get a few friends and dress in all black go late in the night break in load it up on the truck and drive away as fast as you can :P

I know this was supposed to be funny, and I dunno what the ports are like around where you are.. but the thought of trying to 'break into' the port of Long Beach to jack anything is bordering on straight up suicide. You have more to worry about from the unionized truckers and dock-workers, than from the few sparse law-enforcement officials around there.

Hell, as long as we're talking about jacking things... you'd be better off trying to get into the thousands of cars that are sitting on the dock at any point in time.

Post by **S15_silvia** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

lol there is always a way hehe not that i would sneak in to steal it i would bet that it would be extremely hard if not impossible i mean there is only one way to get out for one and then you have the guards and of couse the employess which i bet would be the toughest but hey...........................lol

Post by **S15_silvia** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

the laws here are to strict anyways though there are too many cars/engines that are illegal here but what ive learnd is that there is always a way to get around the law everythign can be done for a price

Post by **S15_silvia** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

its crap that they can hold something that you payed for that is yours and say you need papers and then they say if you dont show papers we will destroy it.......is that not stealing?....in my books it is and why should government get away with stealing when we cant sometimes i really hate this country

Post by **DonDonati88** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

the law is the law...Custom's department is there for a specific reason. And they are just doing there job.

Post by **S15_silvia** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

yes i know but this law is b.s

Post by **Movingviolation240** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

is if I was importing 500tons of Coke, they catch it and destroy it, but I already paid for it. Is that stealing? The SR is illegal just like a pound of coke is illegal.

That's why everybody who knows about motor's is telling everyone else not to go out of the country to buy somthing. I'm sorry you got burnt, but don't say we didn't warn you. I really have little sympathy for people who have this happen to them. I'm not going to send 3,000 overseas on an 'if' just to save a few hundred bucks over a sure thing in the US. There are reasons these company's don't have shops over here, they don't want to deal with all the problems, that's what they have customers for.....

PaulOrlando, FL

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Movingviolation240 wrote:The SR is illegal just like a pound of coke is illegal.

How you use the SR might be illegal. Importing them OBVIOUSLY is not. How else would all these other engines be in the country?

The SR in and of itself isn't illegal. What you do with it ... that's another story. So how is it that all these other people manage to bring literally thousands upon thousands of engines/clips seemingly without incident? That's what I'm trying to find out.

Again, it was never my intention to turn this into any kind of debate. Its a public forum, I know better than to expect that

Post by **TREND PERFORMANCE** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Eng so how is it all comming along? have you got any new news. I live in arlington VA and I have be thinking about ordering a clip from FO so I have been following this thread.

Tom

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

I'm going to call Customs tomorrow morning. I'll be sure to spread any information I get to you guys as I get it.

Post by **jmillheiser** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

you ordered this clip from flashoptions? strange ive never herd of anyone else having problems with them. what it sounds like to me is the policies at this particular port.

or flashoptions might have forgotten a form (after all they are only human).

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

I'm going to go to Customs today after lunch to give them the paperwork. I just talked to someone different. He said that I just have to show them the paperwork and they send the forms to the EPA.

I'll post after I return. If everything goes well I'll have the front clip tomorrow.

So it seems in the end all this was due to either miscommunications between myself and the Customs officer or the guy not knowing what to do.

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Got back from Customs a little while ago. It was uneventful, he looked at my paperwork, filled out an EPA form, took money for duties and stamped the papers.

Duties cost me a whopping $14.03

Post by **240_Keyy** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

so then I take it you got the clip?

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

I'm going to pick it up first thing tomorrow morning. You can expect plenty of pictures then

Post by **Silviagirl79** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

GREAT POST TONS OF PICS!!

THANKS

Post by **Silviagirl79** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

Ok so what was the hold up? You didnt need EPA paper work after all? FO filed the appropiate paper work? WOw, only 14 bucks taxes? Thats it??

Post by **eng** » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:50 pm

The delay was finding a Customs officer who knew what needed to be done. The first guy I talked to said _I_ needed to fill out form 3520, it turns out that _THEY_ fill it out.

All that needed to be done was take the paperwork I've had since day 1 down there and pay the duties. If anyone wants to know he put Code W on the form.

Now off to rent a U-Haul ^_^

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