Front Camber bolts.

[Viet-Tam]

I plan on getting some eibach springs. Do I need to get new front camber bolts to get a good alignment?

[badbob2121]

dont get springs, go with coils... you will regret getting the spings in the long run... they are some quality but cheaper options when it comes to coilovers too... look into it, seriously

[kc240guy]

dont get springs, go with coils... you will regret getting the spings in the long run... they are some quality but cheaper options when it comes to coilovers too... look into it, seriously

yeah, what he said. But you don't need anything to adjust camber for the front because as you lower the car the camber stays the same. Still though, don't do lowering springs on stock struts.

[hbpignosePA]

how does the camber stay the same?

i dont know if you can get bolts, but im pretty sure you could get just camber plates.

if the drop isnt that bad, an alignment shop could put in shims to keep it in spec

[breadbox]

IDK why everyone says get coils. If its a daily I'd consider the standard agx and lowering spring combo. My daily coupe has adjustable dampening and pretty comfy for daily driving but I could stiffen up the rears and its noticeable.

Get coils if you want 2"+ drop.

[badbob2121]

^^^ bc you can go lower and have better results from coilovers than from a strut/spring...for both street and track use... why settle for less?

[hbpignosePA]

ok.... so you can lower

if that automatically equals better results then you are a tard.

i love my koni's

i dont think id trade them for any JDM ness mad tyte coils

[badbob2121]

"Coil-over" means that the spring is concentric with the damper. The only (understatement) difference is that a "coil-over" suspension is likely to be custom-designed for performance aftermarket with the aim of adjustability not found in O.E.M. offerings (strut/springs).....

ka-boom....

(i would be embarassed too)

[hbpignosePA]

ok......how often do u adjust the height?

if your not on the track... i see no point

a drop spring does the same thing... it drops the car... u can get aftermarket dampers that have adjustiblilty and camber plates and then its pretty much the same thing.

i hate when people ask a legitimate question and the zzomg you gotta be a true 240 owner and get coils crowd comes in.

[badbob2121]

^^^ well im glad your happy with your dd strut/spring set up... but my in comforatbly streetable...but i can also make a simple adjustment and be track ready...hmmm.....

but thats just stupid!!!! lol...

i guess people will always simply just defend what they can afford no matter if it makes sense or not... thats why i love forrums

[FolkertSX]

But you don't need anything to adjust camber for the front because as you lower the car the camber stays the same. struts.

this is completely false. lowering your car gives you negative camber. with just lowering springs you may not notice the difference. but slammed on coils you will get nasty camber. to the op, if its just a dd and your not looking for a serious drop, go with springs. but seriously, you'll get bored with the height and want to be lower

[hbpignosePA]

^^^ well im glad your happy with your dd strut/spring set up... but my in comforatbly streetable...but i can also make a simple adjustment and be track ready...hmmm.....

but thats just stupid!!!! lol...

i guess people will always simply just defend what they can afford no matter if it makes sense or not... thats why i love forrums

i can afford coils........ i spent alot on my setup

look at auto cross racers.

miata guys and others who are serious build their own coilovers.... my 240 is my daily; im taking my time to restore it, not turn it into a track car. its different strokes for different folks; but 240 gen is overrun with a$$ who do cookie cutter builds and follow the scene. (i vaguely recall you making that thread about sil40s and sil80s)....

the guy asked about what you need for an alignment with springs; not about f*** coilovers. the answer:

an alignment shop can fix minor camber problems with a shim at the knuckle

[Gabes13]

I like my coils better than my agx/rsr combo.

[badbob2121]

hbpignosepa> what does the sil40/sil80 question have to do with my knowledge on suspension?? nothing

most people get defensive when they know they are wrong... its ok

[hbpignosePA]

my point is your a fanboy... you seem to follow the trends to be super cool.

and what exactly am i wrong about? that coils are better? its a personal opinion dude, and had nothing to do with the OPs original question.

sheesh 240 gen is getting as bad as zilvia. ill just stick to gen chat where the OG members hang out

[allenms240]

Lawl.
Coils or die.
Later on you'll just want coils and wish you didn't waste the money on springs/struts.

[EnjoiNismo]

If your struts are good condition and you don't have the money, get springs.
But if your struts are already bad, get coilovers.
This is if your on a budget.

[badbob2121]

my point is your a fanboy... you seem to follow the trends to be super cool.

and what exactly am i wrong about? that coils are better? its a personal opinion dude, and had nothing to do with the OPs original question.

sheesh 240 gen is getting as bad as zilvia. ill just stick to gen chat where the OG members hang out

dude your so OG!!! your so right and know me so well... i only do things to be jDm tYte and buy coils not only because they are more adjustable like i previouslt posted, but because i am a "fanboy" ...

OP dont buy a more adjustable part because others are doing it.... be that emo kid (hppignosepa) that sits in the dark corner and talks about how everyone is a conformist...

[kc240guy]

you don't get camber in the front from lowering, just the rear gets camber. Atleast on most nissans it's that way. Some toyotas have upper control arms in the front. Lowering springs and aftermarket struts are fine, but he was talking about just springs.

[ashibah83]

you don't get camber in the front from lowering, just the rear gets camber. Atleast on most nissans it's that way. Some toyotas have upper control arms in the front. Lowering springs and aftermarket struts are fine, but he was talking about just springs.

wow, really........a MacPherson strut design( which is what the front on the 240 is) WILL have an increase in negative camber when lowered, as said it wont be very noticeable, but put it on a alignment rack and check the numbers after you lower it and i Guarantee that it will be negative....its espicially bad under cornering because of the camber gain issues that are associated with a MacPherson design as opposed to a multilink( which is what the rear on a 240 is).......learn your stuff then open your mouth....

to the OP, camber bolts would be fine, i personally dont trust them besause they are a "cam" type adjustment, if its possible try to find some decent camber plates and you would be set

[bllabong89]

lol. i love these threads. it gives me something to giggle about while im bored at work. just go with what you want. if you want springs, get them and go to an alignment shop and they will get it figured out. settled.lol