Frack You

A place for intelligent and well-thought-out discussion involving politics and associated topics. No nonsense will be tolerated at all.
User avatar
bigbadberry3
Posts: 2095
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 6:19 pm
Location: USA

Post

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi ... ls/255030/

Doctor: You're sick.

Patient: Why?

Doctor: It's a secret.

:rolleyes:


User avatar
n00b240
Posts: 642
Joined: Tue Jan 07, 2003 12:30 pm
Car: '03 6MT
Location: Burnt Orange Country
Contact:

Post

thought you were talkin about those frackin cylons...

User avatar
bigbadberry3
Posts: 2095
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 6:19 pm
Location: USA

Post

Maybe number 6....

User avatar
n00b240
Posts: 642
Joined: Tue Jan 07, 2003 12:30 pm
Car: '03 6MT
Location: Burnt Orange Country
Contact:

Post

I was thinking more of number 8

User avatar
hannibal
Posts: 9680
Joined: Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:38 am
Car: Red Line to Glenmont
Location: Washington DC

Post

Oil and gas companies are hiding behind the premise that the fracking cocktail is proprietary info. Meanwhile, they claim it's safe and harmless to people and the environment. However, no one can verify these claims without knowing what chemicals are being used.

I think Obama proposed a law which would require companies to disclose the types and amounts of chemicals used. And i think it's a good idea...

User avatar
stebo0728
Posts: 2810
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:43 pm
Car: 1993 300ZX, White, T-Top
Contact:

Post

I dont quite understand this one. There is already law that should be handling this. A company is supposed to, by OSHA standards, have MSDS sheets available for any and all chemicals used, or even just stored, in its facilities. How would this be any different? Perhaps the recipe or how chemicals are combined are kept secret, but the identity of each chemical should be disclosed already. If its not, then why?

User avatar
C-Kwik
Moderator
Posts: 8070
Joined: Thu Aug 01, 2002 9:28 pm
Car: 2013 Chevy Volt, 1991 Honda CRX DX

Post

stebo0728 wrote:I dont quite understand this one. There is already law that should be handling this. A company is supposed to, by OSHA standards, have MSDS sheets available for any and all chemicals used, or even just stored, in its facilities. How would this be any different? Perhaps the recipe or how chemicals are combined are kept secret, but the identity of each chemical should be disclosed already. If its not, then why?
Read the article again. It doesn't say the doctors aren't entitled to the information. According to the article, the bill just allows the drillers to require a confidentiality agreement that prohibits doctors from sharing that information with anyone else, including the patient.

As for being required to disclose the chemicals, the article claims this:


At the federal level, natural gas developers have long been allowed to keep the mixture of chemicals they use in fracking fluid a secret from the general public, protecting it as "proprietary information." The industry is exempt from the Environmental Protection Agency's Toxics Release Inventory -- the program that ensures that communities are given information about what companies are releasing. In 2005 the industry successfully lobbied for an exemption from EPA regulation under the Safe Drinking Water Act as well, in what is often referred to as the "Halliburton Loophole."


Return to “Politics Etc.”