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Pisses me off because the CPU drivers are too aggressive. I almost threw my controller after getting bumped into the parked semi-trailer, but put it down insted.

I get spun out so often it really annoys me. I also hate that if the CPU runs into me, i get the time penalty.

Yet i still turn it on, only to get mad at it again....

And ill probably buy Forza 2, and get mad at that...


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By CPU do you mean the offline AI? Or the people online? Im guessing your talking about the AI. Its like this with a lot of games, as the AI isnt intelegent at all. The AI in LFS however, takes the cake..






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they dont have to be smart to ram me and make me crash, or not move out of my way when trying to pass. God i hate it, but keep playing...

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I hate that too. They said they were toning down the AI for the next one. I'll find the link. http://forzamotorsport.net/new...2.htm

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btw does any one else get Mad slowdown with forza being played on a 360? At some points its like slo-motion

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Theres a 50 minute video, "behind the scences" only with the creator, and his home video camera, explaining the features of the game in depth. This makes me want to buy an Xbox 360 just for the game.

To the O.P., on games that are meant to have a strong online play, they usualy dont put too much effort into the AI. But then again, ive never played forza, i could be wrong about the online part?

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anti_flag_army wrote:btw does any one else get Mad slowdown with forza being played on a 360? At some points its like slo-motion
Yep I see that meself. Especially when I look in reverse.

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i dont like the idea of having the CPU play the game for you with the drivatar.

On a side note, i really want the 360 steering wheel, but would never pay 150 for it.

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anti_flag_army wrote:i dont like the idea of having the CPU play the game for you with the drivatar.

On a side note, i really want the 360 steering wheel, but would never pay 150 for it.
$150 isnt a bad price at all for a good wheel. You can get a DFP for pS2/PC for $130 new, and its got force feedback, 10 inch wheel, 900 degree rotation, and a sequential shifter, as well as paddles.

You know what i would like however? G25



Too bad its $300, but well worth it IMO. You can get a refurbrished one, or an uopend one on egay for $180.

Ill end my little wheel talk thingy...


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OMG.... that is the coolest wheel i have ever seenI would love to own that, is it for PC or what?

wait..... no climate control?!?!? forget it!!!

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The problem I have with Forza's AI is that they are terrible drivers and usually manage to take me out with them. Take Road Atlanta for instance. There's that nasty little spot at the end of the long straight where you have to make a tight left then right. The AI NEVER fails at smashing into me at 100+ mph just as I start to take that first left.

Same goes for the longer New York course, where you find yourself in the low-speed twisties. The AI always comes flying into the corners too fast and hits the wall--or me if I'm between them and the wall.

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anti_flag_army wrote:OMG.... that is the coolest wheel i have ever seenI would love to own that, is it for PC or what?

wait..... no climate control?!?!? forget it!!!
Its USB, so it can hook up to anything that takes USB. PC, PS2, and PS3 are the only ones i know of so far.

Heres a link, if you wanna check out the wheel even more.

http://www.logitech.com/index....11867

Id love it. THe best features are the bigger wheel, the Leather warpped wheel, the placeable H gate shifter, and the the 3 pedals with ajustable sensativity and resistance.

Id get that, if i wasnt so far behind on saving up for my 240.

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psh no 360 support FTL

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theres probably an adapter for the USB to the xbox port thingy. I know people who play LFS (computer game... all controllers = usb) that use Xbox 360 controllers. So if they can get Xbox to USB, im sure you can get usb to xbox?

Then the question would be, what games would support the clutch and gated shifter. Theres no PS2 games but need for gay carbon, that support the H shifting and Clutch pedal on the G25, so you have to switch it to sequential mode, which works for every game that doesnt support the "manual mode".

All PS3 driving games so far support the H shifting and clutch pedal, and most computer sims support it as well. Pretty much every new racing game that comes out is going to support it.

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the xbox is picky about what usb devices it will use, maybe in the future, but i bet microsoft would like to push their official wheel on us at the moment

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Does microsoft have a wheel with 900 degrees of rotation, forece feedback, a placeable H gate 6 speed shifter, with push down to get to reverse, 3 pedals, with ajustable resistance, and a leather wrapped aluminum wheel?

I think not

Doesnt the Xbox wheel look like a spaceship wheel and is all green or somthing? Atleast thats what ive seen.

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Forza's AI does indeed suck very hard. If I'm lucky, I can stay ahead until the last lap on a track such as Laguna Seca and get a perfect PIT maneuver pulled on me at the chicane or very last hairpin. They brake too soon for any turn that they are ahead, brake too late for any turn you are ahead, and try to pass straight through you in the event that their car is faster than yours.

I love the game to death but I've had to open my logitech wireless for the original xbox many times to resolder peices from throwing the controller. That's the only reason I try not to play on the 360.

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anti_flag_army wrote:....not green at all

http://cgi.ebay.com/Racing-Whe...wItem
Forced automatic, and ugly as hell? Not worth $120.

For $130 in PS2 land, you can get this!



http://www.logitech.com/index....11097Thats what ive got.


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No 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400??? BOO!!!

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I seriously might get an XBOX 360 JUST for forza. But then at the same time, im saving for the G25 (wheel with H gate shifter, and clutch pedal i pictured above), and also saving for an S14. I dont think its gonna happen.

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I don't have a problem with the AI. I just use the CLK-GTR, whoope them off the line, then never look back. My problem is witht he A-holes on line. Every time I get into a lobby, they are like "no gouging", "no bumping", then the first thing they do, usually the guy whining, is run you off the track. I won't even play online unless it's with people I know.

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those crash pics are funny

are those from the computer?

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^ yea ^

Im gonna save up awhile and buy forza and forza 2.

I played forza at target (haha) and it was pretty damn fun.EDIT: http://www.ebgames.com/product...20259

On that, what all do I need to play online with, just that and games or what ?

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TRBOMOFO wrote:those crash pics are funny

are those from the computer?
Yes. I only mentioned the name of the game, as well as link, like 10 times in this gaming section.


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