ford Focus or ford Bogus?

[SmithSR]

We could get along!!...but when you post info that you aren't sure is accurate, you should be prepared for some not-so-cheerful comments. Then when you(not you, Strife) take an attack personally, and tell others to get their facts straight, you end up looking like a one-legged man in an A** kicking contest.

[JustinStrife]

I agree. I stand up for my beliefs and my thoughts, but I also bow down when I am proven wrong(When aren't I?). As for taking things personally. They are just words. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" Old kid's cliche I grew up on. And you know what? It's so true. They just need to go back and re-analyze their facts. Double check it. Cross-check it. And if they still come up with the same facts, they should show additional facts(on both sides). Otherwise you're both just blowing hot air if u can't get additional grounds to support your stance.

I'm sure everybody will forget all about this thread in a week and we'll all be one big happy family again

:bearchug

[89240sx]

its nothing too get upset about... I mean who cares if he is not knowledgable I'm sure everyone will be able to see it for themselves

no need for a fire fight.

[PGZX3]

the 03 Cobra thing was off subject and yes, I admit I had my facts wrong, but you absolutely DENY my other statements, I hate my focus, thats obvious, its one of the reasons I bought my dream car..... a S13 240SX Coupe.....SmithSR, you present yourself as being respectable....but then you dismiss everythign I said on account of my lack of Mustang knowledge.....I don't know alot about Mustangs, and I never intended to say so, I'm sure you can admit you've been wrong before. "Grossest lack of Knowledge" I think you're simply trying ot be spiteful...and what for??? For me making a correction....If you had paid attention I directed none of my arguments at you, instead at others like BadMojo.....

And to the recall issue, look at some of the recalls, they're rediculous...some TSBs never make it to recalls for some reason or another, some of the TSBs I have seen SHOULD be recalls but are not...fine, insult me for defending the focus when I found it was getting an overly bad rap....insult me for know knowing EVERYTHING about mustangs.....you would be hard pressed to find many other people on here willing to risk their reputation on here to make a stand like that...and obviously you didn't like what I had to say so you dug for something to get to me with...whatever.....thought NICO was worth my trouble.....guess I can throw you guys down there with Focaljet.....

[PGZX3]

BTW...I never said I was an expert on Cobras either....and quite honestly I don't care to be...I don't really care to learn all about automotive politics like you, either SmithSR, its not what I do, I would rather spend my time building my project car.....100% on my own Just like everyone should....

[JustinStrife]

Why don't we just drop this. Start over from scratch. There's nothing wrong with Nico. Overall it's the best forum I've ever found in 7 and a half years of being on the internet. We've had our bad apples, but overall it's been good.

Unfortunetly not everyone can work on their car 100% on their own. Some people live in apartments and places where they don't have that luxury(I'm one of the fortunates). The important thing is we all have a love for Nissan engineering. Or we wouldn't be apart of this forum. Whether it be S12's, S13's, S14's, S15's, or any of the infiniti's, etc.

I'm personally going to build up a 95' S14 SE with an RB25DET and a strawberry face hopefully as funds become available. I love both the S13 and the S14, but the S14's styling appeals to me just a tiny bit more. I have a 90 hatch, and she drives beautifully for 208k miles on the chassis, but being 23, I want something a LITTLE more modern interior wise.

But to all the 240sx owners out there.. :alcoholic

[PGZX3]

actually, I live in an apartment with my parents and intend to join the air force where I will be living in a dorm....I have a garage rented out at a friends apartment complex where we have the car wedged in with all the tools and parts and we have to take like 30 minutes or rearranging just to get everything where we can work on it....its quite the adventure

[JustinStrife]

haha! I know what that's like. A friend of mine use to live here in an apartment and he owned an 86' Toyota Trueno(aka AE86). We did a Redtop engine swap in it. What a job that was. He also had a 20v but never installed it for some reason. I would have loved to have bought the car when he sold it.

I have access to my dad's work shop, and makes things considerably easier.

Now all I need is.. $$$

[BadMojo]

I could have gone on for DAYS....but look at MY car's recalls, the 2001 Focus....defective wiper motor switch.....rear hub bearing kit iinstallation....fuse cover replacement.....warranty guide supplement.......

Yeah, who needs those wheel hub things anyway.

The NHTSA must really be full of **** to be wasting our time with these safety recalls.

"Some rear wheel hub retaining nuts loosen, allowing the left rear wheel and brake drum assembly to separate from the vehicle. Correct by inspecting the rear wheel bearings and installing a rear wheel retention cap to prevent left rear wheel separation."

What the hell, who needs 4 wheels anyway. :rolleyes

Or...

"Some seat back recliner handle springs were damaged during an in-process test and the occupant may notice a chucking, or looseness of the front seat back. The seat back unexpectedly reclines. If the seat back unexpectedly reclines while the car is being driven, it results in loss of vehicle control. Correct by replacing the seat back recliner handle spring for the driver and front passenger seats. "

Cruise control is cool until your car is stuck at WOT...

"Speed control cable hangs up at the throttle body bracket during high, wide open throttle operation, preventing the throttle from returning to the closed position when the accelerator is released. Correct by replacing the throttle body and checking for proper operation. "

I wasn't directing any criticism at you, but you're sorely mistaken if you think all of these recalls are "media hype". Do you think the NHTSA is just hassling Ford for the hell of it with meaningless recalls? Can you imagine the number of lobbyists a company like Ford must have in Washington? Don't you think the NHTSA would make damn sure that this was legitimate before they made Ford recall hundreds of thousands of vehicles?

You asked for opinions, and you got 'em. You're more than welcome to continue to forgive Ford for releasing such a poorly designed product, it's your money. Still, I think it sets a dangerous precedent to send the message to automakers that it's OK to sell poorly engineered vehicles.

Hey, if you keep it up, maybe Bill Ford will invite you over for dinner.

[PGZX3]

I didn't CHOOSE my Focus, I was stuck with it, thank my parents who stuck me with the car payment for the next 4 years, now that that is out of the way, you said and I quote "YOUR FOCUS" so I went with that.... a 2001 Focus...which IMO has more 'pointless' recalls than purposeful.....the wheel bearing thing...I have heard of Focus wheels falling off, but it was due to the studs breaking, my buddy had his wheel bearings replaced after they were basically rolling around in the drum.....and the wheel didn't come off.....Just my .02 from someone who's been under the hood of a few Dozen focuses and knows a couple dozen focus owners...

[BadMojo]

I'm glad your friend wasn't injured. BTW, I'm pretty sure NHTSA looked at more than a few dozen cars before they issued these recalls.

At any rate, I don't see this going anywhere. You asked for opinions, got answers and didn't like 'em. Next time, don't ask.

[PGZX3]

I don't remember asking for opinions.....but whatever I'm dropping it...and I didn't really get answers to anything....cuz I didn't ask anything........sorry if I mislead anyone.....whatever....

[nrcooled]

I personally own a 2000 focus ZX3 AT. Why an automatic? -Because it's the best for A-B transportationWhy a Foucus? -Because it was cheap (See reason #1)Am I annoyed with all the recall notices? -Hell yeah! seems like everytime I open the mailbox Ford is perstering me again for another reason

Let's not forget the recall for the front strut tower that can potentially collapse. I am a pretty knowledgable person when it comes to the Ford lineup and I would buy another Ford. But when I turn in my lease I am calling it quits for a while.

Owned-90 Mustang GT94 Explorer Sport (2dr 2WD)98 Contour SVT (great car)00 Focus

Dam I lease a lot of cars!

[Coupe240sx]

Yeah focus's are pretty cool!!!!!!!