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Post by **WONit** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:51 pm

OK after having my redtop sr totally rewired i still have NO spark. the ecu ,ignitor

chip,+ coil packs have been tested on 3 other cars! all the grounds have been

ground down to a clean surface . ALL fuses checked.. but still NO spark. anyone

have an idea of what it could be? i have had this car with the swap for almost a

year ,and am kinda getting fed up with it... any ideas would be helpful!

TY, WONit

Post by **Onizuka** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:49 pm

This may sound rediculous, but if you have a really generous freind with a SR swap, test your whole harness on their car. Crank angle sensor working? If thats broken it will stop the ignition. If there was a short somewhere you would be blowing fuses, so I'm really at a loss as to what else it could be. Battery charged? lol..

Post by **WONit** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:58 pm

yea, it turns over fine , no fuses were blown, CAS has been tested so i know its fine... we are all at a loss .... im goin to try and find someone to swap out harnesses with!

Post by **AJ1356** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:23 pm

when you trun the key does it do anything ?? or it is just all quite ?? also was your car an automatic b4 or not. if it was an auto then i have a selution for you. try it and it would work like a charm. let me know and i can take a pic of what you ned to do.

Post by **WONit** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:12 am

Nah , it wasnt an aoutomatic befor,and it turns over fine,geting plenty og fuel...

just NO spark whatsoever. befor it would give me spark on random cylinders,but

none now!

Post by **Hijacker** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:46 am

are positive you have no spark? like you've pulled a coil pack and watched to see if it can arc a spark plug? (ghetto way I've done it in the past is to put a plug in the coil pack, touch the electrode to the valve cover and stand clear while I crank the car)

Post by **climaxsr20** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:08 am

what kind of spark plugs are you using?

Post by **WONit** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:19 am

yea, i tested the plugs that way. i dont know what the plugs im using are

called.. heyre the one HT sent me with my swap package... and i have tested for

spark with numerous misc. plugs also... i can hold the spark plug so i know

there is nothing there!

Post by **cIvIcKILLA240style** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:27 am

Holy hell I have not been here in a while. The full harness has been removed and completely opened up and all wires in it have been checked. Like he said all sorts of stuff have been swapped from running SRs. I am out of ideas as to what is stopping the motor from providing spark. Do you still have the old lower SR harness?

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:40 am

Sounds to me like you have a wiring issue.

Trace point to point for voltage, mark where it stops.

Post by **cIvIcKILLA240style** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:02 am

Nismo_Freak wrote:Sounds to me like you have a wiring issue.

Trace point to point for voltage, mark where it stops.

been done

Post by **WONit** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:16 am

HT never gave me a lower SR arness,when i called about it jeff told me that i

didnt need it and the lower KA harness would work fine!

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:38 am

cIvIcKILLA240style wrote:been done

Do it again, obviously you overlooked something somewhere in the process of testing everything else you wouldn't have made this post...

Post by **biglipzit** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:46 am

maybe ur ecu isnt good? i havent heard anyone mention the ecu... but yeh did u test the CAS?

Post by **WONit** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:08 pm

yeah, i put the ECU on my cousins car and it worked fine.... as far as i know the

CAS has been tested also

Post by **climaxsr20** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:12 pm

maybe its a sign that you cant have an sr20det. haha. kidding. the only thing i can say is you gotta go through the whole process again to double and/ or triple check everything you did. maybe you might have missed something. my brother and i had to do this a couple of times to get the rb25det started.

Post by **yellow_jacket** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:50 pm

It really sounds like you have a missing ground somewhere. And what did you mean by "as far as I know the CAS has been tested?"

Did you check for power at the coils as opposed to just checking for spark?

Did you check the coil pack harness?

Did you check continuity from the coil pigtails all the way back to the ecu?

Did you check the ground wire on the ignitor?(iirc that ignitor has a ground wire on it. 5 in 4 out)

What about the ecu? Are you sure it is turning on? Is it staying on when the key is in the start position? Have you checked to make sure the ecu is not losing positive power or negative ground?

Did you check for injector pulse using a noid light or how do you know it is getting fuel?

Hopefully you haven't checked one of these things and there you will find your answer.

Post by **WONit** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:21 pm

what i mean by that was, my car is at a shop ,and i was told that everything

was tested, but just like everything if you cant see it with your own eyes you

cant say for sure that it was done

now before the harness was pulled , i know that continuity was checked from the ECU to the coil packs...

as for the ecu ,when i bought it,there was no light so i cant tell by eye if it is turning on or not!

and before the harness was pulled ,i lifted the injectors up while having the key turned . and i pulled the fuel line the other day when we tried to start it(this is with the newly redone harness) and fuel was getting to the injectors!

Post by **Hijacker** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:28 am

yellow_jacket wrote:Did you check the ground wire on the ignitor?(iirc that ignitor has a ground wire on it. 5 in 4 out)

IIRC, the SR harness grounds the ignitor at the ECU. Could be a bad ground on the ECU's part

Post by **WONit** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:17 am

will check and get back to you all!

Post by **zippe** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:06 pm

Have you checked the Cam Angle Sensor??? And if the wiring is reversed to the cam angle sensor it will not work either (causing no spark)… what year car is it and red or black top

Post by **S14Life** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:45 pm

you know the CAS and the ignitor in plugs are pretty much the same.. make sure you have the colored wires going to the ignitor and the black/white/grey whatever going to the CAS. also, did you get like a redtop hanress with a blacktop ecu? or vice versa?

Post by **WONit** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:25 pm

Im not 100% positive, but i think it is a E5 ECU... not sure if it is redtop or blk top ecu.. and im gonna give the shop a call tomorow ,and ask them to double check the wiring,and test the CAS again!

Post by **S14Life** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:26 pm

e5 is blacktop type x ecu. i'm pretty sure the pins on the e5 differ from regular blacktops..

Post by **Hijacker** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:25 am

I have an E5 ECU that works fine on my old redtop setup. E5s were from blacktops, but not necessarily type xes

Post by **WONit** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:43 am

yeah, and i did put the E5 ecu in my cousins car which has a a redtop in it,and it worked fine!

Post by **cIvIcKILLA240style** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:46 am

yellow_jacket wrote:It really sounds like you have a missing ground somewhere. And what did you mean by "as far as I know the CAS has been tested?"

Did you check for power at the coils as opposed to just checking for spark?

Did you check the coil pack harness?

Did you check continuity from the coil pigtails all the way back to the ecu?

Did you check the ground wire on the ignitor?(iirc that ignitor has a ground wire on it. 5 in 4 out)

What about the ecu? Are you sure it is turning on? Is it staying on when the key is in the start position? Have you checked to make sure the ecu is not losing positive power or negative ground?

Did you check for injector pulse using a noid light or how do you know it is getting fuel?

Hopefully you haven't checked one of these things and there you will find your answer.

all been done

Post by **cIvIcKILLA240style** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:46 am

S14Life wrote:e5 is blacktop type x ecu. i'm pretty sure the pins on the e5 differ from regular blacktops..

wrong

Post by **S14Life** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:22 pm

MY BAD

i had the e5 and actually the kind folk here on nico told me it was a Type X ecu and that it was different.

Post by **S14Life** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:02 pm

niver mind. I got the E and J mixed up. J4 was the type x ecu

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