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[rant]DO NOT RUN CABLES LIKE SPEGETTI OR EVERYONE WILL HATE YOU

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lol, so true...

PS, never go into my networking closet again!

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im talking about the roof. The roof i just crawled through was spegetti. There was power cables runing on top of the network cables on top of the beverage tubes across phone cable and other misc. cable

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lol, we're not quite that bad arround here, though I do have a jungle of servers to navigate...

Damned oil rigs trying to connect to mainland...

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lol. Orginize that *****!! :)

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God I hate it when people run wiring like they're infants.

How hard is it to run the wires into one large backbone that is zip tied together, and just branch out indivdual wires when needed. Ugh.

(The people at my school are idiots)

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[Zero-S] wrote:God I hate it when people run wiring like they're infants.

How hard is it to run the wires into one large backbone that is zip tied together, and just branch out indivdual wires when needed. Ugh.

(The people at my school are idiots)


Yah, i know what you meen. Sometimes the orginal people that did it that way so it can't be helped by the future people. Most of the networks in the beggining were noobs or people that didn't know much about computers. Now its a wee bit different.

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I have 2 more semesters of an associate degree in computer networking. I kind of have an idea, but what do you think the job market is like/will be like and how much should I expect to start out making? Any suggestions/feedback appreciated. Thanks.

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a lot of places are now taking experence and degree. But with just an associate degree, its not going to get you anywhere. You need a bachler simple fact. What you lack in experence you can make up in school.

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if you went to school and getting your certs like:

microsoft and/or cisco that would get you a descent job 30K+

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you'll probably start in the $35-40k range

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CCNA is getting to be worth less and less nowadays.

I'd say if you're looking towards network engineering (NOT administration) take the time and get your CCNP.

FWIW, I'm working on my CCIE and CCSP at the moment.

~matt

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Yeah I plan on getting certified in atleast Cisco, and probably Microsoft. The emphasis of my degree is Cisco and Administration.

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thats awsome man. Its always good to hear a excited future network admin. I could never admin. I have been working for to long and getting burned fast. So, i don't know if i could see myself working on computers in 10 years. Working since your 8 years old does that to you

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Don't say that haha. I can't imagine what the advancement of technology/computers will be like in 10 years. I'm excited.

Edit...Never know, I might get burnt out on computers too.

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Hehe. I worked doing administration for about 4 years (from age 16 until know) and I got burnt out w/ a quickness.

That's why I've gotten into the engineering side of things 100%. Way more fun, way more challenging, constantly changing.

No offense to anyone, but any monkey with a manual can administer a windows network. Setting up a WAN between 6 different cities while having to follow federal medical guidelines for security (my current project) takes a little bit more :)

~matt

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Haha sounds like fun. Guess I'll just have to see where this takes me.

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msaskin wrote:Hehe. I worked doing administration for about 4 years (from age 16 until know) and I got burnt out w/ a quickness.

That's why I've gotten into the engineering side of things 100%. Way more fun, way more challenging, constantly changing.

No offense to anyone, but any monkey with a manual can administer a windows network. Setting up a WAN between 6 different cities while having to follow federal medical guidelines for security (my current project) takes a little bit more :)

~matt


as an admin? wow must be nice. I was a grunt crawling in the roof in the lovely california sun. Though it was fun seeing how a switch box was setup. I got not gripes about that. But honestly no matter what job you have your boss makes your job **** or not.

If you have a boss like Ed Stone of show low,az then you won't like computers. But if you work for another place with awsome boss its all good in the hood.

I learned a new phrase from my boss today....icky softness.

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Icky softness??

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I violently hate wired networks. [Glancing under my desk] I wish power and speaker cables could be wireless too.

-Jesda

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msaskin wrote:Icky softness??


like when you put on a girly lotion and you feel gay soft? Thats icky softness :D

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Jesda wrote:I violently hate wired networks. [Glancing under my desk] I wish power and speaker cables could be wireless too.

-Jesda


Wireless is only for homes right now IMO. 10mps for a 300+ person buisness network sure isn't that fast.

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You can push 100mbit now. Ideally, new offices will use wireless laptops piggy backing on a wired network. The offices I maintain only have 5-10 employees each so.. its not an issue yet.

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not secure enough.


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