fn0rc 18x9.5 and 17x10 have same face?

[S14tat]

i know they don't in size wise but i'm talkin about the curvature of the spokes. just like how the 17x8 and 17x9 have the same face on those wheels, but it seems to me that the 17x10 has a more diesel curvature of the spokes, then the 18x9.5

can anyone confirm this?

[McRussellPants]

For the most part. Yes. They aren't flat like the 9s.

The 10s do have more angle, but it looks ghetto since its like a 45 degree angle.

[whiterps13]

yes, the 10 inch wide has much more curvature to the spokes. i think they look much better than any other width.

[Dori Dori]

For the most part. Yes. They aren't flat like the 9s.

The 10s do have more angle, but it looks ghetto since its like a 45 degree angle.

Agreed. The 18x9.5" looks better IMO too.

[S14tat]

if i was to go with the 17x10 and -25 offset, would i be able to use 275mm tires without it rubbing? ( thats after i rolled my fenders ) current setup is 17x9 with a -35 offset and 275mm tires with no tire rubbing at all and without any fender rolling.

[nismofly]

i know an s13 that has 17x10 +12 front and rear, with 275 and 295 tires

but theyve got arch flares on it

i highly doubt youd be able to run a 275 front, better bet would be to run 17x9 front, but then you only have the funky spokes in back

[S14tat]

well i'm considering putting my 17x9 -35 in the front but i'm wonder if there would be any point to it becasue i think it would sit the same as my 17x8 with a -25 offset.

so what would you do? put the 17x9 in the front or just leave the 17x8.

so you don't think a 275 would fit in the rear then?

[McRussellPants]

You wish FN offsets were Negative.

17/18 Stagger with FNs look stupid.

Get the 10 rears. 9+35 needs a spacer on the front.

[nismofly]

17x9 +15 fronts maybe?

with 17x10 either +12 or +25 rear?

my guess would be itll take quite a bit of fender work, maybe a 255 front, if so youd run a 275 rear, itll probably take a quite a bit of work to make it fit

[S14tat]

ah as it turns out a +35 offset with a 17x10 would fit. so with that i can squeeze 275mm with minor fender work.

[sunnys14]

17x9 +15 in the front and 18x9.5 +12 in the rear = sexy

[nismofly]

ah as it turns out a +35 offset with a 17x10 would fit. so with that i can squeeze 275mm with minor fender work.

you have coilovers?

regardless whered you find that?

theres no way youd clear coilovers with 17x10 +35 front, its about an inch less inner clearance from what you need

[S14tat]

haha nismofly i have no idea where you keep on thinking i'm getting 17x10 +35 or 17x9 +35 in the front.

i'm gonna leave my 17x8 +25 in the front and sell my 17x9 +35 to my friend.

i'm gonna put 17x10 +35 in the back, i measured the clearance between my tire and rear shock on my 17x9 +35. the result was that i have alittle over an inch of space. this means that with a 17x10 with the same offset i would still have a half an inch of space left.

[nismofly]

thats the first time i had said that, last time i checked you didnt know what you were doing with the front and were still considering several options, thats why i said it

regardless, you will not like an 8 / 10 stagger, you really should get a set of x9 +20 or something for front if youre going to have the x10 +35 rear

[McRussellPants]

Uhhh, or you take the 9 +35, get 15mm spacers and move those to the front.

2in wheel/Tire stagger? "Hi, Understeer, my name is TatII. We should hang out, I'll call you the first time I do something other than pimp my **** around town."

[nismofly]

Uhhh, or you take the 9 +35, get 15mm spacers and move those to the front.

well that too

[S14tat]

is a 15mm spacer too much to use for hte front? i'd rather just sell both of my rims then and just buy some 17x9+15's in the front.

i remember reading around here that its not good to use more then a 10mm spacer as it would put more load on wheel bearings. not sure if thats true or not, but i'd rather not bother with studs and spacers.

also r.w.240 i know your the wheel and tire expert, but if i was to run 17x9's in the front right, what tire size do i have to use? if i remember correctly, its like a 225mm wide.

i remember when you and sr20detpower was argueing about stretched tires but i wasn't paying attention then. so if my current 17x8 has 235mm threads on them, and i step up to a 17x9 with a 225mm thread on them, why would the 17x9 provide more gripe then the 17x8?

also how does running a 17x9 up front effect steering feedback compared to a 17x8?

i would probrably try to test fit the 17x9's +35 tomorrow and see how they fit, if they clear everything then i'll run them like that for alittle and just put a 10mm spacer later down the road.
Modified by S14tat at 6:50 PM 4/2/2006

[nismofly]

you dont have to run a 225 front

if youre going to run a 275 rear, youd want at least a 245 front, 255 would be better, its the tire size stagger thats going to cause the understeer

however at that point its going to get quite a bit of work for it to fit

do you have coilovers? i never saw where you said yes or no

[S14tat]

nope, just a shock and spring combo. that is why i'm gonna try to test fit it. i just might fit.

[nismofly]

yeah then id say test fit it

what size are you running on the 17x9? 275 you said in one of your posts near the top?

thats going to be what prevents it from clearing if anything, you could run 275 rear and actually have a smaller front

[S14tat]

yeah i'm just gonna put the 17x9 with the current tires on and look at the rim clearance. if i have room to space where the rim and tire might be, i might just stretch the 235's on for now and wait for more money and maybe put 245's later.

[nismofly]

well if youre already running a 40mm stagger the feel wont get any worse, but you must have major understeer when you push it right now

[S14tat]

the streets here are in grid forms and the only turns we get are highway on and off ramps. i don't dive into a off ramp or on ramp nor do i slam on the brakes while turning. i usually enter medium pace and progressively gas thru the on ramp and such and i don't seem to have any problems.

i know if i was to auto x or road race it would definitly understeer. but i remmeber McRusselpants saying something about stretched sidewalls and benefits of it but i wasn't paying attention because he was just trying to educate a flamer on another forum.

[nismofly]

to an extent a stretched sidewall will make the sidewall firmer, like you couldnt run a 335 on a x9, but running a 225 on a x9 doesnt fall in this category

minimum you could run a 235

ive got the grid here at college too, i always drive 2 or 3 hours east into minnesota to get to some fun roads

but yeah you wouldnt notice it driving like that

[S14tat]

my biggest grip is when i slam on my brakes, i always lock them waay to easily forcing me to pump them. if i have a super stiff sidewall, would that make my braking performance worse?

[nismofly]

you just need a better tire compound

what kind of tires are you running right now?

[S14tat]

i'm running all season kumho asx's. yes i'm ashamed of these tires, but damn these things grip in light snow. when i had my kumho mx's they freaking don't gripe for **** when it drops below 40 degrees, and i got stranded at my school ( 30 miles ) away cause there was a surprise snow storm. so i'm willing to sacrifice ultimate gripe for being drivable year round.

what other all seasons are good? i've tried p zero neros and they're not too impressive either.

[nismofly]

thats exactly where your braking problem is, the tires

where exactly do you live?

reason being...do you get enough of a winter to warrant having 2 sets of tires? you could run a set of stockers with all seasons, then have good tires for summer

[S14tat]

i'm in nyc, it doesn't get as cold as syracuse. but its below 40 degrees 4 out of 12 months down here, and gets as low as single digits, and the snow is on and off.

however i live in an apartment, and i have no room to put my stock wheels or aftermarket wheels. i do seriously consider doing that, but its not worth it.

[McRussellPants]

is a 15mm spacer too much to use for hte front? i'd rather just sell both of my rims then and just buy some 17x9+15's in the front.

i remember reading around here that its not good to use more then a 10mm spacer as it would put more load on wheel bearings. not sure if thats true or not, but i'd rather not bother with studs and spacers.

If you use a 15mm spacer you can use a bolton spacer. No Studs needed, Waaayyy better than plates.

also r.w.240 i know your the wheel and tire expert, but if i was to run 17x9's in the front right, what tire size do i have to use? if i remember correctly, its like a 225mm wide. .

you can run anywhere from a 205/40 to a 275/40 on a 9J. It all depends on what you want.

On an S14 you can run a 235/40 Hassel free. a 245/40 isnt to hard on the front either with a 3ish camber.

i remember when you and sr20detpower was argueing about stretched tires but i wasn't paying attention then. so if my current 17x8 has 235mm threads on them, and i step up to a 17x9 with a 225mm thread on them, why would the 17x9 provide more gripe then the 17x8?]

SR20Power also thought that SRs sucked because they didn't have cam bearings.

Stretched tires enhance turn-in and make for a more progressive break-away than square or oversquare.

Some say this is at the cost of peak grip due to a lever arm effect on the sidewall which decreases load rating.

But, a wider tire is a wider tire and "stretched" tires to an extent feel loads better.

also how does running a 17x9 up front effect steering feedback compared to a 17x8?

Compared to the setup you have now it will feel a **** ton better turning in. All the tracking problems, will be from if you run a shorter sidewall tire.

i would probrably try to test fit the 17x9's +35 tomorrow and see how they fit, if they clear everything then i'll run them like that for alittle and just put a 10mm spacer later down the road.

Won't fit. even with AGXs. +25 would be waaaayyy close but would probably fit.