FMIC QUESTION???

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Ok i have a 1993 s13 hatch with pretty much a stock s13 ka24de other than bolt-ons (3" exhaust, test pipe, and ebay intake). Tommorrow im trading my friend my spare 2 door panels for a used Greddy SR20 FMIC KIT. I was wondering if i could put the FMIC on my N/A KA... cold pipe side only and plug the other side of the FMIC with like a cone filter???? If i were to do this it would be a front mount cold take! HAHAHA..... OK SO WILL IT WORK?????? Will it give me power gains???


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To get this right your asking if you can cool atmospheric air with atmospheric air, while blocking air flow to the radiator and engine bay causing high engine and under hood temps which affect hp, and increasing the intake piping which delays throttle response in order to have an intercooler. That is what is know as an interfooler and is the definition of a ricer.

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50hp gain minimum...do it!

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I love posts like these.

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:inout:

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:To get this right your asking if you can cool atmospheric air with atmospheric air,
:rotfl :rotfl

To go all engineer nerd on you, this might actually HURT.
The ideal gas law doesn't exactly 100% apply here, but it does a little.

PV=NRT
We'll say the volume of air that your engine is sucking in is constant, which makes this an isochoric process.

At that point, your equation basically boils down to T2=T1(P2/P1)
With volume staying the same, the pressure increases slightly locally. Let's say it compresses 2%, and you started with atmospheric temperature of 80 degrees (~300 degrees Kelvin).
T2=300(1.02/1)
T2= 306 degrees Kelvin, which equals 91 degrees fahrenheit.

Yes, I pulled all of these numbers out of my a**... but you see the theory behind it. It's sort of like working in reverse from your AC system.

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I like the chemestry behind it lol but its true. And I must quote..
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I was ganna say they do make intakes like that but again :facepalm:

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Its actually more thermodynamics than chemistry... but I smell what you're cookin.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:
OutToWinPAHC wrote:To get this right your asking if you can cool atmospheric air with atmospheric air,
:rotfl :rotfl

To go all engineer nerd on you, this might actually HURT.
The ideal gas law doesn't exactly 100% apply here, but it does a little.

PV=NRT
We'll say the volume of air that your engine is sucking in is constant, which makes this an isochoric process.

At that point, your equation basically boils down to T2=T1(P2/P1)
With volume staying the same, the pressure increases slightly locally. Let's say it compresses 2%, and you started with atmospheric temperature of 80 degrees (~300 degrees Kelvin).
T2=300(1.02/1)
T2= 306 degrees Kelvin, which equals 91 degrees fahrenheit.

Yes, I pulled all of these numbers out of my a**... but you see the theory behind it. It's sort of like working in reverse from your AC system.
I like my shorter version lol

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i needed a good laugh. nice thread, lol

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WOW! Thanks for all the sarcasm guys!!! Im just trying to learn here to see if it would work, because im basically getting an sr20 greddy intercooler kit for free... you dont need to throw ricer, and fake sunroof f*** pictures on there (i have a moon roof so go play with yourself). I had no clue that people knew the term interfooler, and i never even intended for it to fool people! I didnt even google it. I just thought about it, and wanted to see if it would work! And of course i get a** holes on here that say "i love threads like these, i needed a good laugh"!! I dont know all the technical s*** of how the air gets in... i just wanted to know if it would work! But of course the immature nicoclub people has to flame people that doesnt know about certain things as much as others! :tisk: :nono: Not one person said no that wouldnt work, and explained why.... that surprises me! :wtf2:

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:To get this right your asking if you can cool atmospheric air with atmospheric air, while blocking air flow to the radiator and engine bay causing high enginer and under hood temps which affect hp, and increasing the intake piping which delays throttle response in order to have an intercooler. That is what is know as an interfooler and is the definition of a ricer.

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THANKS FOR THE HELP! :tisk:

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Trust me you will get laughed at if you tried it whether it worked great or not. PV=nRT is exactly right btw. We are just here to save you from humiliation before then.

Eh no harm intended. Just put it on ebay or something and make 100% profit. Itll sell

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240sxAli4Life wrote:Not one person said no that wouldnt work, and explained why.... that surprises me! :wtf2:
Are you kidding me?!
PapaSmurf2k3 wrote: this might actually HURT.
The ideal gas law doesn't exactly 100% apply here, but it does a little.

PV=NRT
We'll say the volume of air that your engine is sucking in is constant, which makes this an isochoric process.

At that point, your equation basically boils down to T2=T1(P2/P1)
With volume staying the same, the pressure increases slightly locally. Let's say it compresses 2%, and you started with atmospheric temperature of 80 degrees (~300 degrees Kelvin).
T2=300(1.02/1)
T2= 306 degrees Kelvin, which equals 91 degrees fahrenheit.

Yes, I pulled all of these numbers out of my a**... but you see the theory behind it. It's sort of like working in reverse from your AC system.
I'm pretty sure that covers both bases of no, it will not work, and why.

Can you put it on there? Sure. Will it give you power? No.

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Besides you!

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240sxAli4Life wrote:Besides you!
OutToWinPAHC wrote:To get this right your asking if you can cool atmospheric air with atmospheric air, while blocking air flow to the radiator and engine bay causing high engine and under hood temps which affect hp, and increasing the intake piping which delays throttle response in order to have an intercooler.
I think I got it too, I just think your vagina is sandy because I didn't say do it, it's awesome and cool as hell broseph.


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