FMIC and Battery?

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So i know about the Miata Battery and that i can route it into the hatch, but what i want to know is, what about a tractor battery? They are 12v, have around 200-300 CCA, and are small, and the price difference is pretty good. the tractor battery is also a little lighter from what i hear. I have to buy a new battery anyway so what do you think i should do? I really want to keep it in the front and i am on a TIGHT budget. Thanks alot!


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you might just have to move the battery to the back anyway... the old mounting area where the battery used to be needs to get cut out in order for piping to go through there, i dont think the pipe and battery would be able to share the space... get battery cable and run it through this large grommet in the front right wheel well, shove it right there and it will come out by what i believe is the ECM.. then put it under the carpet and into the back.. relocate ground to one of the strut towers.. best ground in the back..that how i did mine.. works just fine.. and it cost me 5 dollars to do it..

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WI_240sx wrote: and it cost me 5 dollars to do it..
$5? I'm assuming you had a lot of the stuff alreadyAt some places, the new wire you need is almost 5 dollars a FOOT.not including the different ends for the ground and such at a dollar a piece.And a battery box for ~20AND you need an inline fuse. Which is like another 20

Another option is running a Odyssey battery. They are small as hell, and you can mount them right next to the cold pipe in the tray.

Also I think braile makes small batterys. http://www.brailleauto.com/pro...ct=11

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If he moves his battery to the back then he'll need a box for it, assuming its not a dry cell. He'll also need to make sure its safely secured to the chassis.

I've heard of people using tractor batteries, but the post are not like standard top post, so it'd probably look like trash.

Just buy a Miata battery and call it day. If you're on tight budget then don't boost your car

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bought the car with no motor, and bought a CA18 motorset a month ago and have been piecing it together ever since. where can i get a Miata battery anyway? Autozone and Advance Auto dont sell them and those are the only two parts stores around here. should i just go to the Dealership?

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miata battery ftw. Got mine at autozone, i would have posted more pics but im off to work. oh and its a pic from my phone.

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sjbsuperman1425 wrote:bought the car with no motor, and bought a CA18 motorset a month ago and have been piecing it together ever since. where can i get a Miata battery anyway? Autozone and Advance Auto dont sell them and those are the only two parts stores around here. should i just go to the Dealership?
Autozone can order it for you. Have them check the HUB and have it sent to the store of your choice. They cost around $90 for the Duralast Gold if I remember correctly.

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Miata is what I used and I have a fmic.....it works great

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sjbsuperman1425 wrote:bought the car with no motor, and bought a CA18 motorset a month ago and have been piecing it together ever since. where can i get a Miata battery anyway? Autozone and Advance Auto dont sell them and those are the only two parts stores around here. should i just go to the Dealership?
Autozone has to special order the battery. I got my Duralast gold from Autozone for $87 and it came with a 3 year free replacement warranty.

Plus, the fitment is so snug and tight next to the cold pipe, it doesn't even need a battery tie down (although recommended).

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out of curiousity, how many CA's does it take to start a 240 in the summer anyway?

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it takes prob around 280-350 to crank it, you guys should just buckle down and buy a odessey pc680...its half the size of a miata battery with 680 cranking amps out of the box...i have been working at a freakin battery store where all we sell is batteries...this has been used in countless racing vehicles including 2 240's who needed high power low weight batteries. it is approximately 7"L by 3" W by 6.5" H whereas the miata battery being a group size U1 is 7.75"L by 5.3"W by 7.4"H. ENJOY!

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sr20deTsomeday118 wrote:it takes prob around 280-350 to crank it, you guys should just buckle down and buy a odessey pc680...its half the size of a miata battery with 680 cranking amps out of the box...i have been working at a freakin battery store where all we sell is batteries...this has been used in countless racing vehicles including 2 240's who needed high power low weight batteries. it is approximately 7"L by 3" W by 6.5" H whereas the miata battery being a group size U1 is 7.75"L by 5.3"W by 7.4"H. ENJOY!
Yeah, but I have heard of and seen waaay to many people with odessey batteries trying to charge them because it died on them. It tends not to hold a charge very long, which can be a problem if it is a daily driven car. If you forget your headlights on, you are screwed pretty fast.

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Tulsa_S-13 wrote:
Autozone can order it for you. Have them check the HUB and have it sent to the store of your choice. They cost around $90 for the Duralast Gold if I remember correctly.
find some one that works at one in your area. "cough make friends, "me" cough" and have them use a discount on it. 8 year warrenty, 3 yr free replacement, 5 yr prorate, 3 yr free jump start assis. comes w/ it too

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meh i got myself a free optima that is sitting contently in my trunk. we just had it lying around the store and nobody claimed it!!

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walmart has energizer lawn tractor batteries for like 25 bucks. thats what im rocking, i cut the cars terminals so it is just the bolt hole, and bolted it to the posts on the battery, works great/

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^ sig way to big guy, a resize is in order

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hey burntricer, how many CCA's does that Energizer Lawn Tractor battery have? im just worried that it wont start it all the time or something.

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my battery relocation cost about $60 i got the relocation wire off ebay and a box from autozone and kept my big as battery and put it in the truck. just run the wires through the firewall and in the passengersid rockerpannel into the truck then bolt the negitive cable to the chasie in in the back.

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sjbsuperman1425 wrote:hey burntricer, how many CCA's does that Energizer Lawn Tractor battery have? im just worried that it wont start it all the time or something.
lawn and garden batteries come in 2 sizes U1 and 22nf the U1's come in 2 grades a normal version with, if memory serves me right, 235 CCA and a HP grade that comes with 300.

Now the 22nf is quite bigger at about 8 inches tall 7 long and about 4 1/2 widethis size only gives an extra 45 cranking over the U1hpenjoy!

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ok, so correct me if im wrong but..from what i've gathered here is that the Battery Relocation, a Mazda Miata Battery, and a Lawn Garden Tractor Battery ARE ALL SUITABLE ways of using a FMIC and have the car run like usual.

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sjbsuperman1425 wrote:ok, so correct me if im wrong but..from what i've gathered here is that the Battery Relocation, a Mazda Miata Battery, and a Lawn Garden Tractor Battery ARE ALL SUITABLE ways of using a FMIC and have the car run like usual.
i guess so... i reused the origional ground cable, got a free 1g wire from my friend, and reused the mounting bracket, just drilled holes in the body, and fit some very long bolts to hold it down... like i said, 5 dollars for battery terminals(could have reused old ones but they were in rough shape..) i am however goin to buy a case over it, just for a little extra security..

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alright, Thanks alot everybody for your help. im probably going to go to Sears one of these days and pick up a Tractor Battery. I wont be driving this in the winter either, if it matters lol. Im truly grateful to all

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sjbsuperman1425 wrote:alright, Thanks alot everybody for your help. im probably going to go to Sears one of these days and pick up a Tractor Battery. I wont be driving this in the winter either, if it matters lol. Im truly grateful to all
From experience all i can say is that you better be willing to also buy a trickle/float charger to maintain that battery otherwise you will be buying another battery come next spring. just a little heads up

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my step-dad has one so i'll be able to use it. and yea i know batteries will die if not used for awhile lol..i'll start it up here and there if i can, but the winter's around here (Michigan) can get pretty bad and are not suitable for RWD or my baby CA18:) lol Thanks for the HU though!

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where in michigan are u? my grandparents own a cottage about 25 mins south of grand rapids

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Bay City..its about 40min to an hour north of Flint.

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you know where sisters lakes are?

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no i dont. i dont travel to much im pretty short on cash lol

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burntricer, your sig is HUGE!!!!


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