Float_69. My forum is doggin your engine

[Looneybomber]

Ok long story short we are having a car discussion. I mentioned your car with your CA and all the work you have done (wont go into details on here to ruin you secrets you have) They're all like "The CA is junk, the SR20 will own!" So now I have to back up the decision of choosing the CA over the SR. I mentioned Superior valve train. Anything else?

[biosehnsucht]

Tell them Nissan switched to their precious SR motors because they wanted to cheap out on the motor and make more money. That and the only thing better than 2/3 of an RB is an RB. (Granted, it's not exactly 2/3 of an RB, there's more diffs than that, but they are quite similar..)

[Xero]

iron blockyeah, the cam-on-bucket valve-train with no rocker arm BSmuch higher potential for revving due to the valvetrain

to me, if all I wanted was a daily driven car that gets from point a to point b, I'd get the SR 'cause it's gonna be cheaper to lightly mod it, more parts availabilty pulls the costs down.

if I wanted an all out race engine, built to the hilt, I'd run a CA18 because it can rev, if you're gonna race it at the track, why do you need the increase torque of the SR? you don't if you can keep it in its sweet spot, and having a higher rev range will give you a larger sweet spot.

[themadscientist]

The SR is simple and weak. Judging by what I see on the street at 400hp the SR needs major work to stay together where the CA is already solid. No sleeve kits, no lash killers, no chain tensioners etc. For a light tuned street engine the SR is the better choice, for a serious pissed off engine the CA is better. I killed three RB20DETs and an H22 with a CA18DE, nuff said. These guys are miming what has been preached to them by similar halfwits, you got nothing to prove to them. I have a mantra, I beleive Sun Tzu was the first to say "just bring it"

[float_6969]

They pretty much covered it bro. And just as TMS said, "Bring it". I'm QUITE sure they'll be singing a different tune if they ever go for a ride in my car. I'm shooting for "Fastest S13 chassis in the Mid-west Prefecture" (That was for all you Initial D fans out there!)Hehehe.

[Xero]

holy crap, when did TMS come back?!

[silkk]

Maybe ever since he got his R32

[NeedCAforS13]

um, he's had multiple skylines... but he's back because he just got connected to the internet again! woot

Sean

[r34 gtr]

1st off, damn you and your r32 TMS. secondly, i dont have a problem with the sr, its quite easy to get parts for, and much less expensive to mod, etc, etc. I love the ca and of course have a very biased opinion because i own one, but i have one little challenge for those who think the sr is superior in every aspect to the ca; those who believe the sr is the only engine nissan made for the 240/180/silvia/sentra(etc.) chassis. i will shut up forever and proclaim your precious sr king IF AND ONLY IF you can rev that bad boy to 9k rpm several times and have NOTHING break whatsoever. please. just show me, once. rocker arm stoppers or not, please. just try it.

- tim

[NeedCAforS13]

1st off, damn you and your r32 TMS. secondly, i dont have a problem with the sr, its quite easy to get parts for, and much less expensive to mod, etc, etc. I love the ca and of course have a very biased opinion because i own one, but i have one little challenge for those who think the sr is superior in every aspect to the ca; those who believe the sr is the only engine nissan made for the 240/180/silvia/sentra(etc.) chassis. i will shut up forever and proclaim your precious sr king IF AND ONLY IF you can rev that bad boy to 9k rpm several times and have NOTHING break whatsoever. please. just show me, once. rocker arm stoppers or not, please. just try it.

- tim

lol, did you see his r32 yet? its not exactly pristine... but that engine he has planned for it is pure EVIL

Sean

[r34 gtr]

i dont care how crappy it looks, it doesnt change the fact that he owns the car i tried so desperately to import for so many years. i actually had worked out how i was going to do it as well! for the 89 model i had such a sneaky way through loopholes in the registration and import laws it was rediculous. of course it never worked out because theres that whole "buying a car without ever seeing it" thing that my parents didnt agree with.

- tim

[float_6969]

LOL! I bought 2 of my 240's on eBay before I ever saw them!

[boost_boy]

Ok long story short we are having a car discussion. I mentioned your car with your CA and all the work you have done (wont go into details on here to ruin you secrets you have) They're all like "The CA is junk, the SR20 will own!" So now I have to back up the decision of choosing the CA over the SR. I mentioned Superior valve train. Anything else?

They're a little late with this discussion and the hype of the SR. It's yester-year's one hit wonder. Even the almighty FJ20 is kicking up more dust than the SR. No hate, just pure facts. The SR is an excellent street engine if you plan on doing simple upgrades. It will outperform a stock CA stock for stock. But like TMS says, if you're greedy and want to have some fun with a real engine, the CA is the best bang for the buck and the logical choice. Thumbs down for timing chains, rocker arm stoppers, 2 piece oil pan assemblies, and ricers who listen to what others say.

My choice (no brainer) the CA! The SR is a decent engine, but folks should stop comparing it to the CA. They obviously think something of the CA if they're constantly comparing it to the famed SR20DET.

Dee

[r34 gtr]

the fj20 is a freaking beast. i would get one and drop it in a s12 or something in a second if they werent such a pain to find parts for.

the ca is just great because of the large margin for error it gives you. if you screw up a shift, or over-rev it its usually okay because the valvetrain will hold together to (at least) 9k rpm, from personal experience. you do that with an sr and you have a broken rocker arm and/or some bent stuff.

lastly, i dont see why people bother to compare the two, theyre drastically different. its like compairing apples and oranges. they both have their good points and their faults (though i cant think of any with the ca, hehe) and people should just leave it at that.

- tim

[NeedCAforS13]

the fj20 is a freaking beast.

bingo. thats going in the r32

Sean

[themadscientist]

I been gone a long time, I finally built a computer and got an ISP so I will be around more. Bang!The first and prettiest R32 I ever had

[themadscientist]

the new one, $400.00, no wait Y40000 at Y110 to $1, $364.00! It looks like *** but so do I so it's ok!

[themadscientist]

this is the mill that's getting dropped in. It looks bad and has a lot of miles on it but I want to get an engine in it and running to set up the baseline for the Haltech before I drop a hot fresh round in the chamber.

[themadscientist]

But I digress, back on topic. Good points about the revvability of the CA over the SR, it demonstrates the superior valvetrain. I don't hate on SRs, on their own they are good engines but when copared to the better designed CA pound for pound they are inferior.

[float_6969]

Well Dustin, did you let them have it, or did they just ignore you?