Fitting the S14 Greddy Turbo Kit on an S13

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Does anyone know if the Greddy Turbo kit for the USDM S14 240sx will fit or can be retrofitted to the KA24DE on the older model 240sx?


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It will physically bolt on...but the E-manage will be tuned improperly for your ECU and MAFS.

The intercooler kit will also fit, mostly...

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Mostly? Do you know if it's too tall, too wide, or can i break out the sawzall and make it fit?

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If the kit will bolt on, you'd probably need to be a bit creative in setting up the IC plumbing (if the Greddy IC is used). Exhaust plumbing will need to be modded for the S13 fitment. The Emanage will require a retune to suit your KA-T config.

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You can order the greddy kit without the intercooler since it wont fit anyway, then get a custom setup.

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I like the sound of that. I didn't even think just to order parts of the kit. Or get all of it and sell what i dont need.

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:: orion :: wrote:It will physically bolt on...but the E-manage will be tuned improperly for your ECU and MAFS.
Is there any significant differences between the S13 and S14 exhaust systems? And as far as the E-manage is concerned, is it fairly easy to program (in my likelihood, reprogram)?

I am looking to buy the kit for my S13 since it pretty much has everything I need sans the intercooler and piping.


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but what exactly need to be reprogrammed???? what's the diffence between the 2 ecu?and why can't we use a s14 mafs

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Reference to Greddy S14 Turbo kit to fit on S13 w/ KA24DE...

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bruinbear714 wrote:The kit was made for S14. To mate to S13 chassis with KA24DE, you will need to do some physical modding on the pipings.OBD2/1 doesn't matter.. the emanage will hook up to the 93 KA24DE the same way it does with the 96-98
I wonder if that eManage statement true. Anyone know of anyone who has done the necessary mods to make this kit work w/o modding the eManage unit?


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wannawangan wrote:
I wonder if that eManage statement true. Anyone know of anyone who has done the necessary mods to make this kit work w/o modding the eManage unit?
I know when I put the Greddy Kit on my 95, that (supposedly) it is only because I have an OBDII equipped 95 that the emanage works as-is. Supposedly (again) from what I understand, the emanage will work with OBDI but you have to use the e-01 to make it work. Since that wasn't the case with me, I never bothered to find out why that is, but that's what they say.

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enjukuracing wrote:This Kit is Designed for OBDII. If own a 1995 this kit will bolt on but if does not have OBDII you will need to purchase the Greddy Profec E-O1 or Support tool to reprogram the E-manage system.
Good luck.Jon

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why would it be any different for obd1/2. the emanage is a piggyback and like other piggybacks, ie safc, it's universal. you hardwire whatever wires are needed to your stock harness so the only difference is the location of the wires you splice into.

the e-01 or support tool is needed to make changes to the emanage so unless you plan to leave the kit at greddys preset boost and ****ty conservative tune, you'll need either for obd-whatever.

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So, basically, the answer is YES, you can make the kit sans the Greddy I/C kit fit on the S13 KA24DE. You don't necessarily need the Profec E0-1 unit to retune the eManage. You can, assuming you have access to a laptop or PC, retune the eManage to suit your fuel delivery and timing needs via software that you can purchase through Greddy or an authorized dealer.As far as I/C duties are concerned, you are better off piecing together your own set (I/C, tubing, fittings, clamps, etc.) IMO the Greddy kit may be a great starter kit as it comes w/ pretty much everything to get your KA boostin'

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conservative tune?

I would not even go that far... More like pure ****.

With stock tune and boost I was running 9/1... or less. Innovate only go's down to 9/1 afr.

Eather way a retune is a must.

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If I understand what every body is saying; To hell with the e-manage, the rest fits, just run some other stand alone.

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Read about the new emanage?

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golgo13b wrote:If I understand what every body is saying; To hell with the e-manage, the rest fits, just run some other stand alone.
more like, to hell with greddy's tuning, buy the support tool and get a better tune.

blue greddy e-manage is fine. the ultimate's strong suit is its ability to adjust fuel without changing timing like other air/fuel controllers but if you leave the airflow adjustment map at a single percentage, for example -50% for 50lb injectors, across the rpm band and add fuel only through the additional injection map, timing wont be all over the place. with everybody jocking the ultimate emanage im sure prices of the original will go down substantially. I saw one for sale today with optional harnesses, support tool and boost sensor/harness for $300

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Dont' forget about the new greddy ultitare emanage coming out.....


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