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mattel makes good guns, I heard they are non-lethal and squirt water.


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Mr1der wrote:PMQ, shut up. 10mm is something I'd NEVER recommend to a new shooter. Especially if they're concerned about recoil.

Hi-Points are ok...BUT there's better stuff that can be found for a comparable price...might be used, but still very serviceable.
The 10mm was kind of a joke recommendation. I just like the Glock 30sf because you can have 4 different calibers easily.

As for the comparable price to hi-point. What do you recommend? I picked my 9mm up for $150 OTD brand new.

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Walther P99 End thread.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:
The 10mm was kind of a joke recommendation. I just like the Glock 30sf because you can have 4 different calibers easily.

As for the comparable price to hi-point. What do you recommend? I picked my 9mm up for $150 OTD brand new.
CZ-52 or a Polish P-64

both are 9mmx18mm Makarov...it falls in between a 9mm and .380 but both are much smaller and will shoot circles around the Hi-Point

the CZ's are between 2 and 250 any more, the P-64 can be had for less than 200.

The P's trigger kinds sucks though...the CZ however is a sweet little doublestack design that'll hold 12 rounds

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Now I want a shotgun even more.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:Also, I am going to go against the grain here and say go bigger.

I'd recommend taking a look at the Glock 30SF. The grip isn't as large as standard Glocks. It should fit smaller hands better.

It's a 10mm which sits between a 357mag and a 41mag. Get the barrel ported and you're looking at 40s&w kick. You can also swap barrels for $100 each and have 40s&w, 357sig, a 9x25. Nothing like options...


The Glock 30 is a 45. The only 10mm Glocks are the 20, 20c, 29 and 29SF

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Go to gun range.Shoot. Compare.Decide.

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Mr1der wrote:lemme get this guys.

first off, how much money are you willing to spend?

if you're looking for something with lower recoil, for personal defense and a main carry gun, I wouldn't go smaller than a 9mm or .38 Special.

I actually made a huge post in this thread for Hannibal in regards to getting your first firearm.

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I would rather not spend more than 500 dollars. I want quality, and definitely want something that will do its job when I need it to, so if that means waiting and saving a while longer then I'll do that. Being a full-time broke student makes it hard to part with large sums of money too easily, as I'm sure a lot of others can understand well. I'll try to make it out to a range ASAP, and see what I like. Might bring what we have around the house, which includes:Haven't shot this obviously, but have been taught to field strip it. I like Glocks from handling this one. My fiance's current home defense weapon, which I know how to shoot if I had to, but never have. And this is somewhat heavy, but pretty cool.

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snwbrdr435 wrote:


The Glock 30 is a 45. The only 10mm Glocks are the 20, 20c, 29 and 29SF
Wow... It's been awhile since I looked at them . The Glock 20sf is the exact one I want

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It seems you're used to a little bit of recoil.

Why not try something like the Ruger SP101 in 357.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:It seems you're used to a little bit of recoil.

Why not try something like the Ruger SP101 in 357.
s14_girl wrote:Haven't shot this obviously, but have been taught to field strip it. I like Glocks from handling this one.
She hasn't shot it. read what she wrote instead of looking at pictures.

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That is in reference to the Glock.

I was talking about what appears to be a .38spl

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I've never fired anything other than a paintball gun as of yet, but the revolver and the Glock will probably be among what I try when I go to the range. Now it's just the question of finding a good time!

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Get off the internet and go now

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GLOCK > any other gun

girls shouldnt be able to own guns IMO....the reasons I will not delve into

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Koshin wrote:GLOCK > any other gun
Opinion, but still wrong.

Glock is actually a very cheaply made weapon.

Springfield weapons are more robust.

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As far as semi-autos go, Glocks have a better quality assurance program in place, but that's still just my opinion. I like the look and feel of a Glock the best as well. The only one I *MIGHT* like better would be the Springfield 1911. As far as revolvers go, I will always love Colt. Springfield is good as well, but Colt... I just love them.

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Ruger all the way.

Marlin for rifles.

Those would be my two main choices if they have the calibers that I want.

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comfort is THE first thing to consider when buying a gun.

If you're not comfortable with it, you'll never get the most out of it.

my advice would to be go to a shop and handle as much as you can. if it feel good and feels like pointing your finger, that's what you want.

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Koshin wrote:GLOCK > any other gun

girls shouldnt be able to own guns IMO....the reasons I will not delve into
don't be a dips*** buddy

I've seen women that handle them MUCH better than I do.

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as for the XD vs Glock argument, it all comes down to personal preference. I prefer the XD, but that's me.

Glock does offer more variations and calibers though. Either one is a good purchase though.

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I am a good example of, "do what I say, not what I do." I bought a $750 Sig .40 for my first handgun. I enjoyed and still enjoy the hell out of it, but it was back when I was in college and I spent an entire semester's living stipend on it. You may want to consider a .22 in addition to your carry gun for the ability to shoot hundreds of rounds practicing fundamentals for $20. But you still have to practice with your carry gun, and if you had to get just one I'd get the carry gun first (the .22 has many uses, but I am not one to advocate it for concealed carry if you have other options).

Try out all the guns and calibers you can. No offense, but you'll probably find that anything bigger than 9mm/.38sp is more than you want to deal with, especially during long practice session at the range. Recoil depends a lot on the gun and is subjective, but I've heard far too many women (and small guys) say .40 and .45 are "abusive" in smaller guns. Revolvers are simpler and totally adequate for self-defense purposes, however they do tend to be a little wider than semi autos. This is something to consider, as someone else mentioned, that women tend to wear tighter fitting clothing with less margin for concealment. I wouldn't really recommend a specific gun, because it will depending on what you end up liking. But I would be willing to wager you'd find a compact (not a sub-compact or pocket gun) to be the best for you. If you are into the smaller guns though, here is a reference to check out, and you probably won't like anything larger than .32 or .380 because the small grip can get nasty with larger rounds (http://bcraig.net/hosting/rifl...n.pdf) Here are some compact models that came to mind you might look into:Sig P232Walther PPK/SBersa ThunderGlock has a few choices as wellKeep how you are going to carry the gun in mind, do you want something to fit your current style or are you willing to change how you dress to be able to conceal the gun? Whatever you are thinking of getting, make sure to do some basic research on the specific gun. Don't be swayed by a few sporadic bad reviews, but flaky guns tend to generate a lot of internet noise & controversy.

This is a decent web resource for women and concealed carry, you might find something helpful on here. http://www.corneredcat.com/TOC.aspx it has a lot of info including gun selection, holster options, and anecdotes to help explaining your choice to others.

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Hehe, ultralite 357mag. Kicks more then a 44

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I bought 2 of these AMMO is hard to find but my neighbor owns a gun shop so he re loads them for me a model 1871 Colt 41 cal. Long. I paid 800 each but my favorite Handgun



My first was a 1911 Colt 45 i have had since i was 21

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Like others have said make sure you handle everything you can before making a final purchase. Thats exactly what i went through for about two months before deciding to go with a Glock G17 as my ccw. I know some don't choose to carry larger framed handguns like that, but that was what felt best in my hand. The next closest to that one was a Springfield XD. Both very comparable in size and feel, but to me the glock was the answer.

Whichever direction you choose good luck and get plenty of practice!!


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Mr1der wrote:
don't be a dips*** buddy

I've seen women that handle them MUCH better than I do.
that was a joke bro
PoorManQ45 wrote:
Opinion, but still wrong.

Glock is actually a very cheaply made weapon.

Springfield weapons are more robust.
I own 10K worth of sidearms...have own everything from a Walther PPk to .50AE Desert Eagles and my 3 GLOCKS are the best sidearms I own

The reliability and craftsmanship of said pistols is not up for debate. Just because you "prefer" something doesnt make it better...

the worst thing about GLOCKS is the way they look. If it was a beauty contest, Beretta wins hands down.

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sean@z1 wrote:I bought 2 of these AMMO is hard to find but my neighbor owns a gun shop so he re loads them for me a model 1871 Colt 41 cal. Long. I paid 800 each but my favorite Handgun



My first was a 1911 Colt 45 i have had since i was 21
Sexy! Hotloads matching the 44mag! Beautiful

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I gotta call Shenanigans on the Beretta for beauty

one of the finest looking pistols you'll ever see is a blued Colt Python.

on topic though, take your fiance with you to a gunstore and handle anything you like.

don't let him just buy something for you. When buying an automatic, make sure you can pull the slide back and manage the trigger, take it down on your own.

I say this because some are pretty damn stout.

I'll be honest, my XD45 is a little difficult to rack the slide on sometimes.

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Mr1der wrote:on topic though, take your fiance with you to a gunstore and handle anything you like.
Another thing is while at the gun store, don't really let him handle the gun too much. The store will deny you sale of the gun on account of they would suspect what they call a "straw purchase". That's when someone ineligible to purchase a firearm for legal reasons gets someone to buy them one. It's most common when a man gets in legal trouble and his wife buys him a gun. Just giving you a heads-up on that. Make sure you get the store owner to explain everything to YOU, not your fiance. Make it obvious that YOU are buying the gun for YOU.

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Mr1der wrote:I've seen women that handle them MUCH better than I do.
I would hope so.
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That's the gun from Josey Wales, isn't it? My dad has a replica of that sitting somewhere in the house. He bought it in his teenage years, because of that movie.


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