Hostile - Independence Day

Welcoming - E.T.

Uh ... 33 views, but only 2 votes? Get with it, people!

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szh wrote:Uh ... 33 views, but only 2 votes? Get with it, people!

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They're watching us...

Well Aliens didnt plant us here, but, UFOs are real. I dont think they will be a friendly visit. Maybe not hostile Independence Day but definantly looking at our way of life through a microscope. Intrusive may be the word. They will probly be way more evolved than us since the nearest star is 4 ly away anyways, and would almost have to have deep space fast travel capabilities. Even a few hundred years ahead if a game changer. So, I think they will not exactly destroy or harvest us, but try and learn new things about human life and our science and/or begin to control us in some ways. I mean what if we found advanced under water civilizations under Europa's ice or something. We would do the same thing by trying to study everything we could about a new form of life that live completely different than what we would think of typical life.

I have been reading about type 1,2,3 civilizations according to Kaku.

I don't think they would be invaders by definition but we still may have some accomodating to do. Still waiting to see what is on Mars...

The British, French, and Spanish weren't really invaders per say either, but that's how they turned out when facing a far inferior, or at least seemingly far inferior native civilization.

Here on Earth, we still are of the mind set that we need to conquer to meet our needs.

If a alien race has been able to create intergalactic travel it is highly unlikely that they would require any resources and more or less eliminates the need for conquest.

Unless, of course, Earth was the only habitable planet within range of their ships. Also, intergalactic travel is on a whole different scale than galactic travel and any civilization that has mastered that will posses a level of technology that would appear as magic to us. Bring a laptop to the 1500's...

s0m3th1ngAZ wrote:Unless, of course, Earth was the only habitable planet within range of their ships. Also, intergalactic travel is on a whole different scale than galactic travel and any civilization that has mastered that will posses a level of technology that would appear as magic to us. Bring a laptop to the 1500's...

In order to travel on the galactic scale, the amount of technology one would have for energy would make our planet meaningless. If a ship can make an intergalactic travel, they are more than likely able to stretch whatever resources they have to live indefinetely in space.

Perhaps in the realm of probability you are correct, but in the realm of plausibility, we are both correct. There are scenarios in which our resources could be valuable. Perhaps their world was in peril, and their embarking was for survival, and perhaps they've drifted for 2 millenia, 1000 generations older than the ones who hit the launch button. And perhaps their ship board resources are low, or perhaps they are tired of their ship altogether. You can't assume that every scenario involves instantaneous travel, nor can you assume an sort of guaranteed moral or ethical superiority. Mankind is what they are, do you really think our hostile, impulsive, conquerous nature will be gone in another 2 millennia. I doubt it. If the visiting civilization has anywhere near the same brain chemistry we do, its likely that at least some level of conflict will result, even if it was not the original intent.

stebo0728 wrote:Perhaps in the realm of probability you are correct, but in the realm of plausibility, we are both correct. There are scenarios in which our resources could be valuable. Perhaps their world was in peril, and their embarking was for survival, and perhaps they've drifted for 2 millenia, 1000 generations older than the ones who hit the launch button. And perhaps their ship board resources are low, or perhaps they are tired of their ship altogether. You can't assume that every scenario involves instantaneous travel, nor can you assume an sort of guaranteed moral or ethical superiority. Mankind is what they are, do you really think our hostile, impulsive, conquerous nature will be gone in another 2 millennia. I doubt it. If the visiting civilization has anywhere near the same brain chemistry we do, its likely that at least some level of conflict will result, even if it was not the original intent.

Your scenario also holds some probability as well.

However, if they have drifted for years, they would of again, most likely, adapted for drifting including their technologies. If they could live in space for massive amounts of time, think what we could learn from them in addition to their propulsion models.

I agree, there may be some ideological/ religious conflicts if we did encounter a new civilization because Hell, we can't even stand our own kind.