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!!!!!! PAUL !!!!!

HOOK ME UP.....

i'll get that money asap....

im buying the turbo version of the n1 dual exhaust so that my car will already have it waiting.... the larger diameter piping will cause me to loose some low end possibly and gain some top end... i can deal with a little power loss.. if it saves me buying two exhausts in the long run.....i think i can get the exhaust cheaper than that... have to check tho...

i guess ill just have to prove you wrong about the KA...

And i have a long life of learning how to race (assuming i dont kill myself) so Adam can bet i'll be around soon :)

If i can get a KA in good condition and partially built that would make life so much easier....

Thanks for the help Paul...


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s14=pimpin' wrote:I'll take your lowest quote of $475 maine. Thats about $750 Canadian, plus shipping and install costs. Close to a grand. My bruellen muffler cost $200 Can, stainless steel tips, custom piping, $145, total of $345, almost a third of the price of the apex unit.
I wasn't done beating this dead horse damnit!!

Well, I payed just over $500 with shipping included. The install is FREE. Even YOU could install a 'bolt-on' cat-back pimpin! Yeah, your ghetto job sounds like it was pretty cheap, but do you think you are going to be able to sell what's left of that scrap metal?!! As long as I don't wreck my car this Apexi unit will be just like new for far longer than I will ever need. If I ever want to ditch it, I'm sure I can get a sizeable chunk of my investent back. And it is perfectly suited for turbo applications. The first pipe is a hair under 3", then splits into two 2.25" pipes. It'll be more than adequate.

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Yea maine i think i'll get it for turbo applications... possibly 3inch split into two smaller pipe... but the N1 dual move more cfm of exhaust than alot of other exhausts...

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Repo i was joking dude...

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ah yes, I see your point now. If you buy a turbo ready exhaust, and don't mind the loss of power, then all the power to ya! i probably won't be ready for boost for at least another year or 2 (realistically speaking) and the only reason why I replaced my exhaust is cause my OE unit was rusting (and $200 for a unit that usually retails for double that, a price I couldn't refuse). What would I do for $1000 CAN?

lets see-

my springs, pillow mounts, and camber kit cost me $370 (used)

tokico blues - $670

OE sways (used) - $60 - I needed to replace the front bushings, thats why I got the front bar, and my car didn't come with a rear sway.

a bit over a grand, but I would take my suspension over a turbo ready (but no turbo) cat back exhaust anyday. Just me though, but the suspension mod is a much better upgrade than 4-7HP IMO. And in this application, it may even be a 2-5HP LOSS!

Bob, in order to prove me wrong, you have to build a bullet proof KAT for UNDER $5000 CAN and drive it daily, for over 2 years. Hope you can do it, I'll be rooting for ya, cause I rather go KAT just cause it seems a little less complicated, and parts would be easier to source.

I'll look into the motor for you, I think Quincy may have mentioned he found a buyer, but the motor was sitting in the shop last time I went by. Dan seems reasonable, but I don't know him that well. Let me talk to Q, give me a figure you can come up with TOMORROW, I think Q is a little strapped for coin at the moment, so I may be able to get you a deal after all. KA motors are easy to come by, and fairly cheap. Man, where were you 6 months ago, I sold my wrecked s14, with transmission and motor (and VLSD) still intact for 4 bills! Shoot, anyway, PM on son, or email me. I'll send a message to q asap, but I need to know how much you have available.

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changed my sig so you guys can see my pipe, let me know what you think, and be honest, I can take critism. Be gentle with my girl though please. Bob, just sent quincy an email, I'll let you know what he says.

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s14=pimpin' wrote:Just me though, but the suspension mod is a much better upgrade than 4-7HP IMO. And in this application, it may even be a 2-5HP LOSS!


Agreed! Had I not needed a new muffler I would have upgraded my suspension first. For the $500 I spent, I could have had a nice start towards a really nice setup. But I will be focusing on coil-overs and upgraded sway-bars soon. Tax return season is coming, and I'll be getting back about $2200 again.

But trust me, you won't lose any HP. You will lose a slight bit of low-end torque... but from 3500rpm to 5500rpm it pulls like a motherfuc#er!! The overall hp and torque numbers are improved in mid and high range rpms. I am totally N/A and it works great for me.

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s14=pimpin' wrote:changed my sig so you guys can see my pipe, let me know what you think, and be honest, I can take critism. Be gentle with my girl though please.


Pimpin... your tail is 'dead sexy'!!

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thanks maine, appreciate it! I always thought we saw eye to eye on alot of issues, car related or not!

the car can rev right to 6g's, instead of sputtering at 5200!!!!

free flow pipe is the way to go, opens up mid range power nicely, a good upgrade, just spend your money wisely Bob, thats all I was trying to say........

still no word from Q, I'll hook you up bob, no worries. Still waiting for a reply though......

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Yea i plan on getting only the best... im a sucker for good quality.. thats why im going Teins, some of the first things i will be doing is suspension and brake upgrades... i think im gonna get some after market rotors and calipers... i really like the look and stopping abilities of the 300zx brakes, but if i were to upgrade to them i want the whole damn hub...oversized crossdrilled rotor and decent 4 piston (no need for 6 piston) calipers should keep the car in fine shape...

I wonder how good the ka is for drifting applications?

i think im going to start searching junkyards for nissan parts... i think i may get lucky...

Paul i need a lsd too!

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Paul if i felt i wasn't getting the quality that Apex is known for then i would have doubts... but right now... i have NO doubts at all :)

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go for it dude, since it is a turbo exhaust, I can't really knock it. I thought you were buying it for a N/A application, thats why I was trying to sway you outta buying it. apexi is good quality, I can't knock it. But keep in mind a suspension will make you alot more happier. Always pay for quality, it will pay off in the long run. Find me zx front calipers and master cylinder. LSD shouldn't be hard to find, I located a scrapped s14 in ottawa, I might go over there to rip it apart, you may want to join us to take the vlsd, I'll give you more details when we have plans.

any motor will be good for driftin in a 240, just make sure you have over 400HP.

good luck, goin home, chat with ya 2mora

peace

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LOL i dont think 400 hp is absolutly nesscesary... but yea... my exhaust is actually fairly new but its so damn restrictive... i suppose i could go from exhaust to suspension... ok... it's settled

Exhaust to suspension.

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Whoa relax there buddy!

Here you are you are clamoring for "Peace in the Middle East" yet you berate me with a name-calling fest of a rebuke that would make a 2nd grader feel proud (and smart).

If I'm a retard what are you? A dyslexic schizophrenic amnesiac maybe...?

Looky here Mr. Short Memory..
s14=pimpin' wrote:Damn, if you wanna knock me, then at least quote me properly, dung for brains!!!


hmmm....OK...let's see what we have here.....
S14=pimpin' wrote:peace in the middle east! <<<< HEAR THAT YANKEE'S?


and here....
S14=pimpin' wrote:I ain't politican with you guys
With that kind of spelling...I can see why. That little 2nd grader is probably gaining a head of steam now.

Also look here...

[quote=" S14=pimpin' the s13 does kinda resemble a probe, although I was thinking more of a 90 rx-7 was a closer imitation! Well, since the rx-7 chasis hit the Americas prior to the 240, I'd have to say the 240 is a rip off of the rx-7 (ahhh, I hate saying that crap, but its somewhat true).[/quote]So who said what looked like what? And for the second time, a 240SX hatchback is not an S13, that's just like saying you have a Silvia.

Try taking it easy next time guy, I know you've been taking some big doses of verbal abuse which probably explains why you're on edge.

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Sopdadope wrote: And for the second time, a 240SX hatchback is not an S13,


Then what is it?

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I always thought it was an s13

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FrEaK wrote:I always thought it was an s13


Me too, I'm anxious to thear the answer to my question. It better be something better than some lame a$$ excuse like the difference between the s14 and mcs14.... they are BOTH still considered an s14.

So.... what is it then.... if it's not an s13? S13 is the chassis code, not body style designation. So if it doesn't have an s13 chassis, what IS it's chassis designation?

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Maine i noticed your sig says gutted cat... did your n1 system come with a cat?

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Hey Freak your car is hot! :D don't worry if it's stock, just revel in the fact you have a rwd 5spd car--- i do! (except for when it starts to snow, then i'll go bang my head with a shovel)..noting a good set of snow tires couldn't help though...doesn't snow much in delaware anyway... (knocks on wood)

your wiper speed indicator faded to gray just like mine did, lol

Repoman, i want to see a pic of your Borla! I'm torn between the apexi n1 and just having a custom exhaust done ( i like the dual more, but too much $, single tip is cheaper)

from what i've been told, is that 2.5' is fine for a turbo (as in not that restrictive) until your'e hitting 300hp or so. if that's true, i'll be keeping the exhaust on, so i'll get my money's worth....although the net gains are not that much, i'd like having the quality and to know it was designed for my car, while a custom exhaust will be too much $ to make just a good as a name brand one and would seem experimental at best.

and i'm not all into 1/4 times, i'm an auto-crosser, so i'll be paying attention more to my suspension set up, and that's where most of my $ will go...

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2.5" is good for a N/A application sky, not bad for a turbo. A local 240 solo racer in my hood had about 240ish HP on his KAT. He recently upgraded to a 3" exhaust system, and dyno'd his car shortly after. He gained over 20HP with the 3" exhaust, so in my opinion, 3" for a turbo application is the way to go, even if you are pushing less than 250HP, you know when funds are available, that HP # will be bloated considerably.

here is the link

http://forums.son240sx.ca/viewtopic.php?t=222

sky, maine, red, why don't you guys join our toronto club? You guys are always there to offer advice, good advice at that, I think you'd make a good addition to our local club. And we got a few very knowledgeable guys there as well, so its a win win situation.

Supafaggot, stay outta the son240sx club please.

Bob, I'll take you for a boot in my car around some nice twisties. All I really upgraded on my exhaust is a free flow muffler, and it did make a difference. You may just want to source a free flow muffler, just to open up mid range a little.

OK, supa idiot, first off, you go blasting me for something I didn't say. I didn't say the probe looked like a 240, dees did. Why don't you go attacking him, snatch sniffer? Yeah, I thought so, you can't battle the great ones. You are such a newb man, the attacks I take are usually from friends, its all an act you F'in moron! Don't like my language? I misspell on purpose, freakin reject, this ain't no university paper I'm writing. Never heard the term "politicin'"? Figures, you're a geek trapped behind a cpu monitor, and the only time you grow some nads to attack someone, is when you figure a whole cavalry will back you up, since you've abviously seen me being attacked from multiple members. You are such a freakin moron, I ain't wasting anymore time on your stupid arse. And what is a 240sx hatchback called, oh smart and almighty master of the nissan world? Who the hell are you? And if you want to join our little discussion, why don't you offer some advice to those asking, or some input based on personal experience, either yours or a friends, instead of being all gung ho and jumping the "flame pimpin' bandwagon"? If you need friends, go to a local bar, but your low blow cheap shot attacks at me are not making you gain any respect from members here, nor are they entertaining or funny. Attack me again tough guy, the conversation has taken a turn for the better, we don't need your stupid little comments here thank you.

Start a new thread, if you have a bone to pick with me, I'll be waiting..........

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FrEaK wrote:Maine i noticed your sig says gutted cat... did your n1 system come with a cat?


Nope. It's not really gutted very well either... I just mangled it's innards. It was rusted, rattling, and in desperate need of relacement, so I did my best until I get a suitable replacement. I'm currently looking for a shop that'll make me a test pipe so I don't have to pay Heavy Thottle $70 for one!

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Sky, thanks, yea it faded good, so did my signal one lol... my car will be mainly for autocross and track, oooo and drifting, but a little straightline power couldn't hurt :)... personally once you learn how to drive the car in the snow well its not too much different than fwd.. (with blizzaks of course)...

Maine I think im gonna get a performance cat.. just seems to be the most forgiving thing to do...

Paul i'd appreciate it, i bet your car goes like a mofo... isn't that what its all about?

See the thing is im not shooting directly for an area of choice, but rather, trying to build a car that is excellent in everything... i know its one of those "Need to see it, to believe it" deals, but i gonna need a little bit of time :)

Thanks for all the complements... im sure you'll see many posts with pictures :) of my progress....

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skydragoness5 wrote:Repoman, i want to see a pic of your Borla! I'm torn between the apexi n1 and just having a custom exhaust done ( i like the dual more, but too much $, single tip is cheaper)


When I get time I'll go take some pics and post 'em up. I need to get my car in the members rides section anyway. You can see a little of my car in the NICO meets section under pics from Oct 19 meet. You can see me too in my goofy picture. I am a sexy biatch!! :D

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s14=pimpin' wrote: Why don't you go attacking him, snatch sniffer?


Why is this bad? :confused: :confused: :confused:

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repo man wrote:Why is this bad? :confused: :confused: :confused:


you're supposed to lick, not sniff. Once he smells the female organ, he runs, cause he usually picks up women in hopes that they are transvestites! Y'know his wet noodle of a pecker ain't really good for satisyfing anything but transmission whores working the corners. You see the light now repo? Repo, join the toronto club as well dude!

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LOL

Paul did you hear the deal i can get on a KA24E?My rents (who believe it or not control about 30 percent of my business transactions, unfortunately) have given me the ok... :)

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s14=pimpin' wrote:you're supposed to lick, not sniff. Once he smells the female organ, he runs, cause he usually picks up women in hopes that they are transvestites! Y'know his wet noodle of a pecker ain't really good for satisyfing anything but transmission whores working the corners. You see the light now repo? Repo, join the toronto club as well dude!


Well dammit s14, I still have to breathe while I'm down there regardless of what I'm doing. And what "light" are you talking about? And why do you speak/write in code? What Toronto club? :confused:

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s14=pimpin' wrote:Supafaggot, stay outta the son240sx club please.

Bob, I'll take you for a boot in my car around some nice twisties. All I really upgraded on my exhaust is a free flow muffler, and it did make a difference. You may just want to source a free flow muffler, just to open up mid range a little.

OK, supa idiot, first off, you go blasting me for something I didn't say. I didn't say the probe looked like a 240, dees did. Why don't you go attacking him, snatch sniffer? Yeah, I thought so, you can't battle the great ones. You are such a newb man, the attacks I take are usually from friends, its all an act you F'in moron! Don't like my language? I misspell on purpose, freakin reject, this ain't no university paper I'm writing. Never heard the term "politicin'"? Figures, you're a geek trapped behind a cpu monitor, and the only time you grow some nads to attack someone, is when you figure a whole cavalry will back you up, since you've abviously seen me being attacked from multiple members. You are such a freakin moron, I ain't wasting anymore time on your stupid arse. And what is a 240sx hatchback called, oh smart and almighty master of the nissan world? Who the hell are you? And if you want to join our little discussion, why don't you offer some advice to those asking, or some input based on personal experience, either yours or a friends, instead of being all gung ho and jumping the "flame pimpin' bandwagon"? If you need friends, go to a local bar, but your low blow cheap shot attacks at me are not making you gain any respect from members here, nor are they entertaining or funny. Attack me again tough guy, the conversation has taken a turn for the better, we don't need your stupid little comments here thank you.

Start a new thread, if you have a bone to pick with me, I'll be waiting..........

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1) S13 refers to a CA18DET equipped 240SX straight-back with a grill. Last time I checked, 240SX's didn't come stock with CA18DET's or grills. Anyone here ever make it to the shows at Bayside in Boston? At one of the shows, there was a drift 180SX. When a friend approached the owner and asked "S13?" the owner, in broken english, said "no" and pointed to a plated with an engraving that said "chassis=UKRM13."

2) Me? A newbie? Hardly... I registered years ago when NICO was only a fledgling site. I just don't have the free time to post as frequently as you do. Which leads me to my next point...

3) You sir, average 5.07 posts per day, me=1.07. So tell me who needs a social life. :D

4) I think I have a right as a donating member of NICO to frequent whatever forum I want and besides, I had a good ole' 240SX back in the day. Poor thing was a victim of mother nature here in NE, had too much body rust so I hard to let 'er go which wasn't entirely bad since that forced me to buy a new car and thus, I upgraded to a Q45. j/k

5) I'd take your advice on going out to bars in a heart beat, but my social life's all good and besides, I'm not quite old enough. One of these days...:beer

6) Those sure were some fighting words there, especially coming from the local whipping boy. LOL You got spanked so hard in there I found it painful to read sometimes. But really bro, I come in peace. You overreacted from my first post, the guys in the Infiniti forum know I'm one of the good guys. I'd rather not get into a school-yard pissing contest. :)

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Sopdadope wrote:1) S13 refers to a CA18DET equipped 240SX straight-back with a grill.


WHAT?

So an 89-94 240sx with a KA24DE (or E) is not an s13? Your info sounds more than a little suspect.

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FrEaK wrote:You might be right about the turbo kit... but i can basically do a rebuild in my school shop... My car has 270, 000 clicks... I dunno about the Sr swap man... it seems to me like a 2.4 liter engine would have more potential... the rebuild wouldn't be as bad as you think... seeing as i'll prolly do it myself... I will be getting an n1 dual... there is no turning me away from that...


With the availability AND relatively low price of SR20 motor/transmission combos or even other viable swaps ie CA18DET's or even FJ's, you'd be better off doing a swap than turbo'ing the KA. In order to reach hp levels (300-450crank hp) that the SR's and CA's can easily do, a KA24DE has to be built nearly from the ground up. Not only are you looking at new rods, pistons but some heavy machining work: O-ringing cylinder heads, custom ground cams, properly balanced crank and machining of the oil + water galleys on top of some serious headwork and custom spec valves and springs.

In my spare time, I've been working on a Datsun 240Z with an L28ET swap. I've gotten a used LD crank from the early 80's maxima motor to stroke to the motors to 3.1L. In order to do the stroker kit, I had to buy a set of used KA24 pistons. After taking some time observing the block I can honestly say that the factory machining work, although good, is not quite up to par with other Nissan engines of that era. There's noticeable casting flash in the water passageways, especially those of the pair of aft cylinders. I can only imagine how catastrouphic the engine failure would be on a 350+hp KA with an inefficient cooling system.

It's probably best to go with the tried-and-true engine swaps which in the end will be cheaper because of the labor saved from custom machining (usually $60+ per hour at a good machine shop) and those motors will be easier to hop up and it'd be cheaper to do so.

Just my two cents, err I mean, liras. :D


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