Finding a CA

[dark_munchkin]

So now that I'm interested in swapping a CA into my 92 coupe I'd like to figure up a general swap cost. Problem is I don't know where a good place would be to buy a CA18DET motorset or front clip. Any suggestions?

[mrzabala]

check our sponsors. Jhot has a nice deal on ca engines. research before you go into buying the enigne.

[dark_munchkin]

I checked JHOT. I found SR's, RB's, and even an FJ (I WANT IT SOOO BAD), but no CA's. I really need to not be lazy lol.

[themadscientist]

Buy the FJ you wuss! It's not that hard to fit but you won't get the hood shut. You only be like the third or fourth person in the world to have done it. If only there was somebody here who had gotten one into an S13 using only Nissan off the shelf parts, if only,,,,,,,,,,, hint hint

[dark_munchkin]

I'm seriously debating the FJ if I can scrounge up teh monies. Would you happen to know this person TMS?

[themadscientist]

He's a ruggedly handsome guy that all the ladies love and I ain't talking bout shaft baby!

It will bolt in. You will have to make the downpipe. Now keep in mind I did this is a Japanese car with RHD so you may have to go topmount.

I suggest you spend some time going around on http://www.FJ20.com and ask yourself some serious questions about what you can undertake. Tomei and Kameari still stock parts for the FJ.

[dark_munchkin]

You're quite modest!

How hard was the harness?

I know it'd be a major undertaking but I'd prolly be like the only FJ swapped S13 in the US. Not to mention most people would be like wtf is an FJ. It'd be going in my 92 coupe which has sat for like 3 yrs already, I'm not in a hurry that badly.

[themadscientist]

I never fired up the car, just physically fit the motor. No inspection shop would even entertain the idea of sneaking it through

A couple of important points to consider.

Again I did this on a RHD S13 Silvia. I am willing to bet Floats good nut you will have interferance with the steering shaft on a LHD 240SX, be ready to deal with that (read, possible custom manifold)

I encountered no interferance on the intake side from my brake master cylinder so if you have ABS and the motor is on the passenger side you should be good.

My guineapig was originally CA18DE. I used the CA's driveshaft. I seem to remeber something about the KA's driveshaft being different somehow where the dust sheild has to be removed from the transmission, research that. If the length is the same as a CA shaft and there is no interferance you a are set, you can do what I did.

I used a motor mount from one car on the left and a different car's mount on the right to get mine in. I reccomend you make some purpose-built mounts. The crossmember for the CA puts the mounting pads close enough to where the FJ wants them to make custom mounts pretty straightfoward. If the KA is the same peice, and I assume it is you are good to go. I leave it to you to verify this. If they are the same the FJ oil pan will also clear.

The easiest transmission to use is the RB20. whawhawha? that's right. The RB 20 bellhousing will bolt up to the FJ20 if you remove one dowel and don't use one bellhousing bolt. The RB20 box also puts the shifter dead center in the shifter hole of the trans tunnel on the S13. This is key, if you want an off the shelf solution for the crossmember I used an R32 Skyline automatic crossmember flipped around backwards. I have a suspicion the KA automatic one may be the same stamping. Again, you will have to research that.

For running the thing I would highly reccomend you ditch the factory harness and go with an aftermarket EMS or if you are crafty use a Pulsar GTi-R harness and computer. It uses a distributor and is a 2.0 liter turbo engine too, pretty convenient. You could use a regular SR20DET harness but you will have to run aftermaket coils and plug wires because the OE SR coils won't fit down into the FJ's valve cover to get to the plugs. You will need to hach the CAS plug off the harness and wire it to the FJ distributor. The four wires coming from the base are the same four pins in a CAS, neat huh?

Just a few tidbits I learned messing with the thing. You will be on seldom-walked ground sir but The fact that you wanted a CA says you are a bit off, the FJ is off the deep end baby. I won't lie to you it will be a ***** of a project but man, if you could get to run imagine the pride you would have. Balls in your court.

[dark_munchkin]

Thanks for the info. I joined FJ20.com so its time to do some reading. Chances are if I did the swap it would be a long *** one. I could probably look into doing a Megasquirt setup on it for EMS. You said box hehehe, I've been reading thru all the aussie posts and its weird hearing them refer to the trans as boxes lol. Time to possibly scrounge up some cash and snatch me a motor!

[themadscientist]

Don't forget the hammer to bubble your hood. Be sure to look into that fix the guy came up with to cure top timing chain rattle with the Maza bit, good stuff. If you pull it off I will get you a genune RS Skyline badge for it.

[dark_munchkin]

What about hoodless lol, weight reduction ftw! Or I could throw a cowl on it lol.

FJ swap or not, looks like more debt is coming my way woot!

[rotorific]

I guess no one really looked at our FJ at JHOT. It already has a Garret T3 a/r .50 top mount turbo with a huge mines front mount intercooler. AS for CAs, well have two coming in on the next container which will be here no later than friday.

[dark_munchkin]

I guess no one really looked at our FJ at JHOT. It already has a Garret T3 a/r .50 top mount turbo with a huge mines front mount intercooler. AS for CAs, well have two coming in on the next container which will be here no later than friday.

Do you work for them? I see FJ and tend to start ignoring other things lol.

[cheap_sticker05]

I got my motor from Nagano Japanese engines and I am happy. Motor was in great shape. They have 2 more in stock right now.

[rotorific]

I do but thats as far as it goes with JHOT. I dont want to take away from the JHOT sponsor area.

That FJ is/was something serious. There were a bunch of bolt on mods along with the top mount turbo and intercooler.

Anyways I always like to see someone on the forums pick it up and I hope that happens. - Gabe

[dark_munchkin]

TMS, can the FJ trans work? I know stuff might not line up but would it work. I know the RB20 trans would prolly have to be used if I wanted much more power.

[drifting circles]

I just ordered mine from neotech imports 1200 to my door step. It just arrived today and only took 5 days to get here. I thought they had great services there.

[themadscientist]

It might but those things are antiques and the shifter throw is akin to a peterbilt truck. If the engine in question has as many goodies on it as I am hearing there is a good chace it might have a crossmission with close ratio gears. Can somebody post a link to the FJ in question?

[dark_munchkin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...photo

[themadscientist]

I only have net access at work and I can't see E-bay. Can you put the pictures directly here?

[dark_munchkin]

EDIT: I hope JHOT doesnt mind me using the pictures, if they don't plz tell me.

[themadscientist]

HKS T04E turbo kit with a standard wastegate and the downpipe, score! The downpipe will need to be cut and reoriented I am sure but you get the raw materials. Looks like stock injectors with an adjustable FPR and a Greddy popoff valve on the intake. The pan has been pulled and I see what may be a metal head gasket so it might have treasure inside. Assume it needs a complete overhaul though. If you get it I would suggest you an 2BN become good buds as you will be needing the same stuff and doing the same things.

[rotorific]

I was thinking that maybe the bottom end was built. The top end seems to be stock with the exception of maybe a headgasket. There was an AIC and Boost Controler on there but I didnt see any spots for injectors. Like I said there were a good bit of goodies on there but the motor is just o.g. old.

[jhotimports.com]

Grrrr....

Using our pics....

LOL.

It should be ok. I don't think it'll eat into the server that much.

We've got a couple of CA's coming in tomorrow. Both are M/T.

I'm going to post up the engine list soon. I just don't want to post it without pricing since everyone will go nuts asking for prices I don't have ATM.

Let me see if I can get a solid price on that CA for you.

JDM ALan

[ca18datsun510]

omg i wish ihad the funds to put that in a 510.

or a bluebird sss

[Reno]

hmmm what happened to the CA?

[dark_munchkin]

Grrrr....

Using our pics....

LOL.

It should be ok. I don't think it'll eat into the server that much.

We've got a couple of CA's coming in tomorrow. Both are M/T.

I'm going to post up the engine list soon. I just don't want to post it without pricing since everyone will go nuts asking for prices I don't have ATM.

Let me see if I can get a solid price on that CA for you.

JDM ALan

I actually rehosted the pics so your server should be fine

Right now it's either CA or FJ going into that car. My biggest problem is some chump owing me money Depending on the price tho I might be able to scrape some money up for a CA (I think he's screwed me out of being able to buy the FJ)