Finally got my M37S

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DrftkingIII
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What's up Everyone!

Long time member but haven't posted in quite a while. I've had over a dozen 240SX's over the years but have grown into the Infiniti sedans more as I get older. After selling my 2008 Black/Black M35 Sport last year, I knew I needed to get another after I settled in to my new job. Spent the last two months trying to find the right car and after having numerous occasions of cars sold out from under me, I finally found this one at a Chevy dealership in Austin, TX.

On to the details! It's a 2012 M37 that is all loaded up with gadgets, Sports Package, Premium Package, Aerodynamic Package and the Touring Package. With all the features this car has, it sure is one of the best bang-for-the-buck sedans on the market. Anyways, on to the pics!

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Haven't gotten a chance to do a full detail on the car yet, but a quick wash and it looks pretty good! Loving it so far.

Cheers,
Mike


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Congrats Mike and welcome to the Y51 group officially!

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Looks awesome Mike! Congratulations!

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Welcome to the club!!!

I think black is the "second best" color (after Pearlized White) for the Y51 model style - just kidding!!

looks fantastic, love this car in black, just don't like how swirl marks show up, so gotta be OCD about detailing.

on to modding!!! Check out the "What did you do to your M37/56/Q70 Today?" thread for lots of ideas...

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nice welcome. atx not far from san Antonio

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Nice looking car

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Very nice -congrats on the new ride!

DrftkingIII
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Thanks for the warm welcome everyone. Unfortunately the excitement has been short lived, as last week I noticed the air blowing out of the driver side was warm, but all passenger side vents were blowing pretty cold. A/C turned off, Dual On or Off, both temps cranked to 90, nothing works. Seems like it's a blend door in the dashboard. Dropping off at the dealer tomorrow morning to have them take a look.

Pretty frustrating.

Otherwise, I love the car. As soon as I have it back I will have the old tint stripped off and re-done.

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DrftkingIII wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:54 am
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone. Unfortunately the excitement has been short lived, as last week I noticed the air blowing out of the driver side was warm, but all passenger side vents were blowing pretty cold. A/C turned off, Dual On or Off, both temps cranked to 90, nothing works. Seems like it's a blend door in the dashboard. Dropping off at the dealer tomorrow morning to have them take a look.

Pretty frustrating.

Otherwise, I love the car. As soon as I have it back I will have the old tint stripped off and re-done.
Damn keep us posted with how it goes at the dealership. Based on the photos, your car looks beautiful.

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HEY OP, did they ever tell you what the issue with your A/C was?

DrftkingIII
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Hey Guys,

Sorry for the late reply. So I took the car to one of the dealers here in town and dropped the car with them. They called me back later in the afternoon and told me that they diagnosed it as a heater core.

"A heater core? This car is 5 years old! How can a heater core fail already? Wouldn't that mean BOTH sides would be blowing cold, not just one side? If it was leaking slightly, I would smell a bit of coolant. To me, it sounds like a blend door is stuck open or something along those lines. Did you hook up to the HVAC computer and test the motors/servos on all the blend doors?" was about how I responded. All I got in return was "that's what my tech diagnosed it as, sorry, that's all I know."

This is about when my frustration began with the service advisor over there, more on that later. I said I'll forward this over to the dealer I bought the car from and we will go from there. After many phone calls, about a week of waiting, and a lot of attitude from multiple employees, I got a call back from the "Reconditioning Manager" who said that they would split the bill 50/50 with me, after admitting it was something they missed on the "Mechanical Inspection" I asked them to do on the car pre purchase (obviously I was told the car was good, oil was changed, brake pads were fine, etc etc.) Moving along, I submitted the estimate that the Infiniti Service Department had given me, which called for SIXTEEN HOURS and a $400 core. Obviously the dealer tried to tell me to bring the car back to them (3 hours each way) and have them replace it. I said no, that I wanted Infiniti to do it, and my schedule wouldn't permit dropping a car off 3 hours away and not having it for an indefinite amount of time. Anyways, a couple of days later, they e-mailed me back saying that "they had checked around and 'industry standard' replacement time for the part was 6.7 hours, and that they were willing to split the part and the 6.7 hours, nothing more" essentially leaving me with an extra 13 HOURS to pay for.

So I went back to the service advisor at Infiniti I had been working with and asked why they had two different sources tell them it was a 6.7 job, yet he is quoting me 16 hours. IT TOOK HIM FOUR DAYS to email me back, and all he said was "LET ME LOOK UP TIME AND SEE WHAT IT REQUIRES…THE TECHNICIAN GAVE ME THE TIME FOR REPAIR." Seriously? That's the best you can answer? Why are you even here? Why don't I just talk to the tech, because you clearly don't have much knowledge on the situation for a "Service Advisor." *I didn't say this to him, as much as I wanted to.*

So I waited. FIVE whole days go by, no response. I called the dealer, no answer. Left a voicemail. No return call the next day. Another FOUR days go by, and finally my patience had run out. I texted the Service Advisor from the number he texted me at during my initial visit. I told him it had been nearly two weeks since he told me he was going to get an answer on why they were quoting double from what I was told. He texts me back, almost immediately, saying "Warranty rate to do the job is 8 hours. Being that it is not under warranty, we would not go by that time. The tech said he can do it for 14 hours."

So let me get this straight, and I know that warranty labor times are ALWAYS tight and usually undercut, but you're telling me that your tech needs nearly DOUBLE THE TIME to do this job? I'm not going to pay for the tech to take his sweet, sweet time and lollygag around trying to figure it out. From the get go, I have been pretty confident to say that this is NOT the heater core and he's just padding his time so they can get in there and ACTUALLY find the problem.

Anyways, I've had enough of this guy and this dealership as a whole. I called another one last night and explained the situation over the phone to the Service Advisor who seemed stunned at how it has all played out. She told me there is no way it should take that long, and even if it were a heater core, the job would charge just under 7 hours, CUSTOMER PAY. So I made an appointment with them to drop the car off on Saturday and will be paying ANOTHER $165 to have THEIR DIAGNOSIS of the car, and then go from there. It's a shame that within the first two months of owning this thing I have had nothing but headaches over it. I'll update as it progresses.

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Yikes! Sounds like a bad dealership. I've never had issues like that from the 3 dealerships here in Northern VA.

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Update for everyone:

The dealership the car is at has been super helpful and friendly. When discussing the issue with the service advisor, we agreed that it sounded like a blend door issue. They took the vents out and visually confirmed the blend doors are operating as designed. They dug a bit deeper and from talking to other dealers it seems this is "becoming a common problem" on our cars with the heater core actually being clogged. Almost 9 times out of 10 people are experiencing the same issue I am having, hot on the driver side, cold on the passenger side. Unfortunately they do not believe flushing the system repeatedly will remedy the solution and advised to have the heater core replaced. Supposedly one of the outflow ports on the core is undersized from the factory.

Bittersweet, I got the dealership I bought the car from to agree to split it with me 50/50.

SO TO ALL M37 OWNERS, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND FLUSHING YOUR COOLING SYSTEM EVERY 30K MILES OR SO, IT WILL BE MUCH CHEAPER THAN PULLING THE ENTIRE DASH OUT AND REPLACING THE HEATER CORE. Let my struggle be informative to others. If anyone has questions, I'd be happy to answer.

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Thanks for the information and will keep this in mind.

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Very nice!

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Thanks for the follow up and info OP.

You know what would also be nice? If the manufacturer recalled these and used heater cores borrowed from any of the other models that don't have these embarrassing issues. Or a TSB to flush the core.

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She's a beaut. The 20 inch wheels in the Sport Package really look awesome and that along with the other upgrades made for an exceedingly tough call. Great news that the dealer met you in the middle in regards to the heater core and while certainly a bummer to start off but a small bump in the scheme of things.

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This would sour anyone's ownership experience. The persistence is the key here and I am glad you kept on it. I wish you well and hope this is your only negative with the beautiful car you have. Good luck!

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If you don’t mind disclosing, how much does it cost to replace the heater core on the M37?

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Thank you for the kind words, everyone. I really do enjoy this car.

After about 2.5 weeks, I finally got the car back. It took them only a couple of days to replace the heater core, but during the install they scratched the tint on my windshield, so it had to be redone. Also, during the test drive, they ran over something and scratched the front bumper up pretty good. Luckily they contacted me right away and claimed full responsibility and repainted the entire front bumper. With the luck I've been having lately, I have to had broken a mirror or something recently....

Anyways, glad it's back.
EdBwoy wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:04 pm
Thanks for the follow up and info OP.

You know what would also be nice? If the manufacturer recalled these and used heater cores borrowed from any of the other models that don't have these embarrassing issues. Or a TSB to flush the core.
That would be ideal, as it seems it's not a problem of if but a matter of when.
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If you don’t mind disclosing, how much does it cost to replace the heater core on the M37?
The original dealership quoted me $3,300ish, if I recall correctly. The dealership that ended up doing the work totaled out to be $2,400 and some change. I'm sure an independent shop could do it for cheaper, but I prefer genuine Infiniti parts and technicians trained for my specific vehicle.

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Nothing new or exciting here, just an update. Got a chance to spend a day cleaning the M37 up and putting a fresh coat of wax on, so I snapped a couple of pictures. For anyone curious, the windows are done in 20% on all the sides/rear and 50% on the entire windshield.
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Also fits pretty nice in my new garage!
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Very nice...

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DrftkingIII wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:31 pm
Update for everyone:

The dealership the car is at has been super helpful and friendly. When discussing the issue with the service advisor, we agreed that it sounded like a blend door issue. They took the vents out and visually confirmed the blend doors are operating as designed. They dug a bit deeper and from talking to other dealers it seems this is "becoming a common problem" on our cars with the heater core actually being clogged. Almost 9 times out of 10 people are experiencing the same issue I am having, hot on the driver side, cold on the passenger side. Unfortunately they do not believe flushing the system repeatedly will remedy the solution and advised to have the heater core replaced. Supposedly one of the outflow ports on the core is undersized from the factory.

Bittersweet, I got the dealership I bought the car from to agree to split it with me 50/50.

SO TO ALL M37 OWNERS, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND FLUSHING YOUR COOLING SYSTEM EVERY 30K MILES OR SO, IT WILL BE MUCH CHEAPER THAN PULLING THE ENTIRE DASH OUT AND REPLACING THE HEATER CORE. Let my struggle be informative to others. If anyone has questions, I'd be happy to answer.
Is this issue confined to the 3.7 engine or does it extend to the 5.6 as well? Mine seems to be working properly but I will definitely be paying more attention to it.

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armybrat wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 7:40 am
Is this issue confined to the 3.7 engine or does it extend to the 5.6 as well? Mine seems to be working properly but I will definitely be paying more attention to it.
Quick search shows that they use the same part number, so I'm inclined to say that yes it will extend to the 5.6.

I'd recommend a cooling system flush if you haven't done one in the last couple of years/30k miles.


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