Finally discovered something good from George Bush

[srellim234]

aud- why would you use wnd as your source? It's obvious they are not very stable or reliable. It's pretty obvious they are dedicated to promoting homophobia, the birthers and the really out there religious right wing fringe. I went over to Factcheck.org to check out your story. There's a lot more to that bill than a "party plane."

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

Note this from factcheck:

"...failed to compare Pelosi’s costs with those of the previous speaker, Republican Dennis Hastert, even though the Air Force handed over documents covering CODELs that he led, as well as those led by Pelosi. And the fact is that Hastert’s travel, as represented in Judicial Watch’s own documents, was comparable to Pelosi’s."

The Republicans had no problem at all paying for the same stuff when Tom Delay was doing it, either.

[IBCoupe]

Heh. That's why I didn't click the link.

I've never seen a story sourced from WND that wasn't quickly revealed to be all kinds of bogus.

[telcoman]

Is that any different from throwing used batteries in the garbage?

Years ago there were people who would pour used motor oil into sewers too.
Wasn't it the government that pointed out the dangers of doing so.
Proper recycling is just being smart and we need the experts in this field to keep us informed. Just because they happen to be government employees shouldn't matter.
We've all seen how some private corporations function with their own inept management.

Telcoman

All good points, and I'll give you that.

However, the "experts" aren't government employees. TRUST me on this one, Howie.

And "inept management" isn't solely the realm of private industry... Remember, "ineptness" in the private industry means you starve to death. Ineptness in government means you get to try out the Oval Office.

Well I hope when the time comes that you take medicine for what ails you it was inspected by a qualified government FDA employee.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/ ... 0693.shtml

Telcoman

[srellim234]

Like the qualified government FDA employees who knowingly approved this drug despite the fact that they knew the case study was bogus.
53 cases of liver failure and four deaths.

http://dangerousprescriptiondrugs.weebl ... -care.html

[audtatious]

aud- why would you use wnd as your source? It's obvious they are not very stable or reliable. It's pretty obvious they are dedicated to promoting homophobia, the birthers and the really out there religious right wing fringe. I went over to Factcheck.org to check out your story. There's a lot more to that bill than a "party plane."

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/pelosis-party-plane/

Note this from factcheck:

"...failed to compare Pelosi’s costs with those of the previous speaker, Republican Dennis Hastert, even though the Air Force handed over documents covering CODELs that he led, as well as those led by Pelosi. And the fact is that Hastert’s travel, as represented in Judicial Watch’s own documents, was comparable to Pelosi’s."

The Republicans had no problem at all paying for the same stuff when Tom Delay was doing it, either.

It was the first thing that popped into my head after the fillet Mignon reply concerning federal waste. There was never any intention to state other politicians didn't do the same.

[audtatious]

Heh. That's why I didn't click the link.

I've never seen a story sourced from WND that wasn't quickly revealed to be all kinds of bogus.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysi ... ?id=519774
"Then there's the matter of the $101,000 tab taxpayers picked up over that period for "in-flight services," including a selection of top-shelf booze."

Before you come out with a "but the Republicans do it too" reply, see my post above.

[audtatious]

Well I hope when the time comes that you take medicine for what ails you it was inspected by a qualified government FDA employee.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/ ... 0693.shtml

Telcoman

Qualified to inspect medicine does not equate an expert. I'm sure that would slip by you as you see Pelosi/Obama/Reed as being experts in healthcare

[srellim234]

Just like the TSA guy gazing at your privates on the screen or groping you at the airport is an expert on international terrorism.

[audtatious]

He was an expert in something by the time he was done with me

[srellim234]

aud- did you even read the Investors link you just put up??? Their reference quotes the exact same WND article!

Again, from Factcheck:

"From the three CODELs it covers, it’s clear that Judicial Watch is counting as “in-flight expenses” any non-reimbursable Air Force expenditure besides transportation costs. That category actually includes all non-plane costs of the trip, including baggage fees, meeting room rentals and refreshments, and, frequently, good-will lapel pins — as well as meals, ground transportation and lodging in U.S. territory." Over a period of 50 flights.

Read the entire Factcheck article. It covers that some those "in-flight expenses" are purchases of snacks at the commissary and Sam's Club. It covers that some of those "in-flight expenses" are really not "in-flight" at all.

Does Congressional travel waste money? Absolutely. The expenses you are trying to villify them for, however, are not nearly as bad as you are spinning them to be.

[IBCoupe]

Dammit, Srellim, that's what I wanted to quote.

Aud, after perusing the IBD website, that doesn't seem much better than WorldNetDaily. If even FOXNews won't touch it, maybe the piece is as bogus as we say it is.

[audtatious]

I really don't care as it was intended to be a light hearted comical response. WTF guys? I really don't care whether anyone covered it or factcheck is right or wrong about it. IT'S A MOOT POINT.

[telcoman]

Well I hope when the time comes that you take medicine for what ails you it was inspected by a qualified government FDA employee.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/ ... 0693.shtml

Telcoman

Qualified to inspect medicine does not equate an expert. I'm sure that would slip by you as you see Pelosi/Obama/Reed as being experts in healthcare

So who is an expert in healthcare?
We got an unpaid for Medicare part D from GWB that was a huge gift to the drug companies with no negotiation over drug prices. At least the VA is able to negotiate drug prices.
The answer to healthcare is a single payer system such as medicare open to everyone.

Telcoman

[mattblancarte]

I really don't care as it was intended to be a light hearted comical response.

It took me a few back-and-forths with you, but I now know this to be your style.

[audtatious]

So who is an expert in healthcare?
We got an unpaid for Medicare part D from GWB that was a huge gift to the drug companies with no negotiation over drug prices. At least the VA is able to negotiate drug prices.
The answer to healthcare is a single payer system such as medicare open to everyone.

Telcoman

Nowhere did I make a statement that BUSH is any more of an expert thus your comment is a waste of time and a deflection. That broken record is old.

Since you brought it up, when are you going to throw Obama under the table for his generous contribution to the insurance companies via his healthcare reform? Oh, you are going to give him a pass as normal and point out something that happened during Bush?

What happened to people like you claiming blame is to be on the shoulders of the President in power? You know, 9/11 was Bush's fault....oh yeah, SOSDD....Obama is to blame for nothing and it's still Bush's fault.

but but but BUSH

[audtatious]

I really don't care as it was intended to be a light hearted comical response.

It took me a few back-and-forths with you, but I now know this to be your style.

Guess I should use this smiley a bit more?