FINALLY! A supercharger option?

[Julio Bro!]

Look at this baby:

http://www.boosthead.com/product.php

This electrical booster is offered for any engine up to 2.5L and should be great for the 240SX. It's a small twin screw charger with 3 starter motors turning it; some individual batteries are needed, but the company says it can be the high performance compact type. This works only at WOT and only for 15 seconds because of the type of motors and the rapid discharge of the batteries (they say it's like using Nitro), then the system needs about 2 minutes to recharge.

I already e-mail them to check if they'll offer a normal supercharger for the 240SX and if they'll work in a continous duty electrical supercharger, if only at WOT (2 minutes is a lot of time).

What do you think?

[POS_S13]

nice find

Quote »So while you're waiting in the staging lanes or cruising along the strip, you can relax and hurl insults at the Nitrous guys while your system preps for another 15-second burst of sheer power. [/quote]

Quote »That's more than enough time to run the quarter mile or remind that high school kid with the neon muffler bearings who his daddy is. [/quote]

[spec-u-later]

I saw an add for that in SCC. I think it said you can get up to 75 horse but it's like 2500 or 3 grand. I think I would just use nitrous if this is only good for 15 sec shots.

[[s3]]

$2000+ for a kit

good luck

[spec-u-later]

Still too much, but a cool idea.

[spitz7985]

no thanks

[PROJECTRB240SX]

ITS CRAP, IT ONLY WORKS FOR 15SEC AND NITROUS IS A WAY CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE, PLUS YOU WONT NEED TO ADD BATTERIES.

[sgreen]

Did you guys read it it said 20psi 3/10 of a second hahahaha

[SeVa-S13]

Did you guys read it it said 20psi 3/10 of a second hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHA! Oh wait, why is that funny?20psi with a lag of 3/10 of a second sounds nice to me....

[Julio Bro!]

Comparing to Nitro, the real savings are in the refills and the time to do it. The ESC system recharges the batteries in about 2 minutes, so you can use it again and again.

I think it's gonna be very good for those who like to try quarter miles or race "short" distances; 15 seconds should be enough. Also 15 seconds will be enough to built enough speed on a reasonable stretch of road; controlled by a button should make for "boost-on-demand" at a given point.

I also think that with a high-output alternator, bigger and more powerful battery, with an adequate motor or motors; the unit could work for more than 15 seconds at WOT or maybe from 90% of WOT, without recharging time. This should do for a great system.

[240marcuSX]

"Do not apply maximum (turbo) boost for more than 15-second durations" - Corky Bell, Maximum Boost.

so if thats true, then that kit is just as good an idea as a turbo, if you look at it from only that aspect.

but still, I personally wouldnt get it.

[[s3]]

Comparing to Nitro, the real savings are in the refills and the time to do it. The ESC system recharges the batteries in about 2 minutes, so you can use it again and again.

I think it's gonna be very good for those who like to try quarter miles or race "short" distances; 15 seconds should be enough. Also 15 seconds will be enough to built enough speed on a reasonable stretch of road; controlled by a button should make for "boost-on-demand" at a given point.

I also think that with a high-output alternator, bigger and more powerful battery, with an adequate motor or motors; the unit could work for more than 15 seconds at WOT or maybe from 90% of WOT, without recharging time. This should do for a great system.

It won't catch on, not because its a bad idea, mainly because the market now has been dominated by mainstream turbo makers like Garrett.

You would think that people like Garrett would invest in something viable like this but they have not. Rather, they would spend time improving products they already developed to perform better and last longer.

Unless a company can come up with a product that performs better, lasts longer, costs less and basically one step better than whats currently available, they'll create a niche market that will cause a supply/demand craze. I highly doubt that will happen with electric turbos/superchargers.

Ask any NHRA drag racing team, any F1 racing team, or WRC rally teams if they would put an electric supercharger/turbo in their cars.

When products like this come to the market, I can only think of products like Duralube, Slick 50, Motor Up etc.

[Julio Bro!]

I'm aware it's not comparable with a robust turbo system and I'm not sure if I'll try it, mostly because I would like it modified for no recharging time.

But, for people desiring a supercharger system for the 240SX there are some good points to this alternative:

* There is not one tuner with the plans for making a superchargerkit, so this electrical unit seems to be the only chance at that.

* Drag, F1 and Rally are for people who do pro-racing and need a lot more hp than what regular mods, including a conventional turbo/intercooler kit, can provide. The ESC would be a regular mod that can give you an edge at those 1/4 mile fun times many people here have.

* A turbo/intercooler kit can take you up to $5K, a supercharger kit the same or maybe less depending on system. People here has invested about $2K on mods that'll give you maybe 20 or 30hp more. This system goes for less than $3K and you'll get an advertised boost of 75hp or more, I think that's a lot of bang for the money.

I'm not saying this is what everyone's been waiting for and should buy it, but it may be worth a try...someone who regularly races should try it.

[PROJECTRB240SX]

HEY WHILE YOU GUYS ARE CHARGING YOU SYSTEM I'LL BE BOOSTING WHENEVER I WANT.

AHH, THE POWER OF A TURBO OR TRUE SUPERCHARGER SYSTEM.

THIS SYSTEM HAS SO MUCH AMPERAGE DRAW THAT THERE IS NO WAY A HEAVY DUTY ALTERNATOR WILL EVEN SUFFICE. ITS GOING TO SUCK EVERYTHING OUT OF YOUR BATTERY AND THEN CHARGE THAT BATTERY BACK UP, WHICH SHORTENS THE LIFE OF YOUR BATTERY BY QUITE A FEW CYCLES. THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED IN THE FORCED INDUCTION FORUM, BTW.

[[s3]]

I'm aware it's not comparable with a robust turbo system and I'm not sure if I'll try it, mostly because I would like it modified for no recharging time.

But, for people desiring a supercharger system for the 240SX there are some good points to this alternative:

* There is not one tuner with the plans for making a superchargerkit, so this electrical unit seems to be the only chance at that.

* Drag, F1 and Rally are for people who do pro-racing and need a lot more hp than what regular mods, including a conventional turbo/intercooler kit, can provide. The ESC would be a regular mod that can give you an edge at those 1/4 mile fun times many people here have.

* A turbo/intercooler kit can take you up to $5K, a supercharger kit the same or maybe less depending on system. People here has invested about $2K on mods that'll give you maybe 20 or 30hp more. This system goes for less than $3K and you'll get an advertised boost of 75hp or more, I think that's a lot of bang for the money.

I'm not saying this is what everyone's been waiting for and should buy it, but it may be worth a try...someone who regularly races should try it.

Try Nitrous...biggest bang for the buck.

75Shot NOS kit = $500

[Supafly]

supercharger=heavy, extra batteries=muy heavy, starter motors added to supercharger=nice and heavy too, amperage draw on alternator=drag... so by adding about 75-80lbs (assuming some kind of lightweight battery) to your car to add this thing coupled with the added drag on the engine of a 500 amp alternator you're supposed to come out on top? dyno numbers aren't the only important thing when trying to make a car fast.