FINALLY A 350Z TAKES ON A LAMBO, BUGATTI, MASSERATI, FERRARI AND MORE

[WDRacing]

Ethanol which is the "Corn ****" you're referring to is going into just about everybodys tank. Don't say "Not mine" because soon you won't have the choice.

All of SoCal has ethanol gas. Quite a few other states are switching too. CARB wants to become the EPA

Ethanol actually has a higher AKI (Anti Knock Index-Average of RON and MON) than premium gasoline at 116.

I really suggest you do some research before you make blatant claims. You don't want one of the admins to make your custom title "Drew's Successor"

Ethanol is only a going into pump gas in VERY small amounts. Ethanol may have a high Ron/Mon rating but it can't be used like C16 race gas.



If you look at the above picture you'll see that it requires about 30% more ethanol to reach 1 on the lambda scale. C16 and pump gas have a 14.7:1 ratio for stoich or 1 Lambda, ethanol has 9:1 ratio.

The most power is made at 12.5:1 AFR or .85 Lambda. Ethanol has to be running at 7.7:1 to make power under load. That is a ton of fuel...At the very least you'll need larger injectors and a fully re-calibrated timing and fuel map. Without increasing timing or adding boost, using ethanol is a complete waste as it will not yield any gains.

Which is the point Noah was making earlier.

Corn fuel makes gobs of power on a boosted motor, or one running 14:1 static compression with lots of timing. Saying it's crap is an ignorant statement. I'm not calling you out Nate, I know you weren't insinuating ethanol was bad, I'm just explaining things for the people that aren't "in the know".

I'm not sure what happened in this thread, there are a lot of bogus statements made...some of which are pure unadulterated BS. I hate stupid people and I hate liars. This thread has quit a bit of both Almost like reading 240 Gen...I thought the Z crowd was "cooler"

WD

[AZhitman]

I think I finally understand something. Drew has a need to be praised, the only problem is that he took a bad route to get there. Now he seeks approval and "oooh...ahhh" from people and HAS to pull them aside because they don't really give a **** about his rice ride.

It's probably because, as modded cars go, it's relatively boring.

There's nothing unique, cutting-edge, radical or even extreme about it.

Hell, my daily driver is more heavily modified than that....

What Drew fails to comprehend is this:

His mild mods might be "OMG" to the pimple-faced kids at the small-town Sonic Drive-Thru.

However, most of us here have built, helped build, or spent a lot of time with REALLY modded cars. So a little paint, some chrome wheels and some ICE are kinda ho-hum.

I'd recommend he go to some big events and see what's going on.

[silvergts1998]

Drew is just about as dumb as a rock. He mistakes a Ferrari for a Maserati and now this?



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[dasoupdude]

Drew is just about as dumb as a rock. He mistakes a Ferrari for a Maserati and now this?

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Thedarkhorse]

looks like u have 0 power adders to me except for the cai. im rockin the 08 stage 2 lol and i have all the receipts for my mods. another thing you tried ethanol what where you smoking thats the worst thing for the engine it will knock like a motha

Thats why is said I tried ethanol and it caused problems. It does give you a huge gain in HP but only in a short burst.

[WDRacing]

Thats why is said I tried ethanol and it caused problems. It does give you a huge gain in HP but only in a short burst.

Everything you do sucks...you're a worthless poopyhead and you should kill yourself. Liars are the worst kind of people...and you are an awful liar. That places you at the very bottom of a huge pile of festering crap.

Die Soon Buddy

[Anthonysflying]

WDRacing....

Great post! I've been reading into AFR and was just getting into stoich (stoichometric efficiency?). You dropped some real knowledge and clarity into the situation...which unfortunately was completely ignored

Sentientbydesign...

Are those pipes from an Auburn Boat-tail Speedster? (1930s?) damn sexy vehicle!

[WDRacing]

WDRacing....

Great post! I've been reading into AFR and was just getting into stoich (stoichometric efficiency?). You dropped some real knowledge and clarity into the situation...which unfortunately was completely ignored

Stoichiometric is where all of the fuel is consumed when ignited. Pump gas is 14.7:1 or 1 Lambda. Lambda is a constant, so it can be used with alcohol fuels or a mix of both. Which is why we use it for measuring ethanol / methanol. The best bet when using alcohol type fuels is to use them as a sub-injection. But that's for those of us that run some type of forced induction.

As far as learning about fuel and tuning is concerned. When the motor is under no load (idle or cruising) you want 14.7:afr's for the best gas mileage. When it's under a load you want 11.5-12.5, the richer fuel mixture cools the combustion charge and keeps away detonation/knock. That's just the basic idea behind it

WD

[silvergts1998]

Yes you are correct. Just to add to this, you don't want to run too rich because it can build up carbon which will also act as charcoal and can cause pre-detonation also..

That is why methanol water injection is nice. Keeps things clean while helping with octane and keeping things cool.

[WDRacing]

Actually, the worst thing about running rich is the piston ring blowby. You end up with unburnt fuel in the oil, the stock PCV systems on most cars simply can't pull the vacuum thats required to get all the crankcase fumes evacuated. The reason your oil even gets dirty is from blowby, not metal wear. Compound this with fuel in the oil and you decrease the life of the bearings and motor by quite a bit. If it's driven for any length while it's overly rich, you run a big risk of spinning a bearing. Always change the oil after tuning...always.

WD

[cessnav8or]

Ok you answer all questions, here is a simple one for you, will you meet SilverGTS at a local dyno? Simple yes/no question here Drew, cessnav8or will even pay for the test.

so much for answering all questions huh Drew? You won't answer this like you haven't answered most that have been asked here.

[silvergts1998]

it looks like there's a video coming of drew's car in the 1/8 mile at the valley. It was said it hit in the high nines in the 1/8th. Never got into the 8's. So how does he get 6's?????

[rmezz13]

flame over..... don't ask questions, just drop it allThanks-Ryan

[AZhitman]

Looks like our boy Drew just can't keep his manpleaser shut....

You kick me off but yet I get around your blocks and still watch you idiots type lies about me. Also check out the new pics moron you just might learn something about my engine compartment. Tell the wife I said hey!



Hey Drew, we're all gonna be up in your neck of the woods in November. Thinking we might make a "field trip" to come check out the car for ourselves.

I recommend you get an apron on and start cooking.

Oh, and buy beer.

[dickie]

hey drew. i know you are reading this, so im going to type this to you and only you:

your life is over. actually it never started... you apparently were able to graduate from high school and thats good, but i think somewhere between then and now something went wrong. maybe it was when you started to lose your hair, or maybe a hooker finally told you the reason why women who are unfortunate enough to see your d!ck have to stifle their laughter.

whatever it was, it caused you some very deep emotional pain. its possible you tried to drown it out by consuming a lot of protein supplements and energy bars and hide behind the orange-glo tan and cheap sunglasses. maybe you thought that buying an entry-level sports car and making it as loud and flashy as possible would distract others from finding out what en empty shell of a human being you actually are.

it snowballed into this whole persona you created for yourself, a character with a flamboyantly aggressive "ricer" lifestyle and mentality.

let's go over some of the lies you use to represent yourself:

- you lied about the performance of your car, claiming big numbers you weren't making.

- you copied a spec sheet from a shop's vehicle.

- you said you were black and accused any detractors of being racist.

- you came back claiming to have competed on the same level as exotics and true classic cars.

- you claimed more unverifiable performance info.

now you very obviously ignore or dodge any questions - even simple ones - about your setup or meeting anyone for verification. why is that? you are obviously very proud of your creation, or is it just what is on the outside that you want people to see (kind of like yourself, huh?)

youre like a scared turtle drew. you hide in your shell and bite at anything that pokes you. i suggest you come clean. take all the bull**** that you dont need and remove it from your car. do the same with whatever emotional baggage caused you to become such a tool.

get back to basics and be honest with yourself and others. youre headed towards a confrontation im sure you wont be able to handle if you keep up the douchebag act.