fender rolling for 245's?

[bribot]

i tried searching but didnt really find my answer. ok well i just got some new wheels and have been thinkin about running 245's in the rear. the wheels are 16x8 with a +32 offset. it looks like there will be enough room for the coilover but it looks like i might need to roll the fender. i'd just like someones input who actually has done this or is currently running this. thanks guys

brian

[naed240sx]

245s on 16x8 is pretty lame. You will loose a lot of sidewall stiffness, and it won't handle very well.

Go with 225/50/16. It's a very popular size, and fits much better.

Edit: I see that you were gonna do 245s in the rear only. My statement still stands, but I should also mention that staggering tire sizes on the same width wheels is pretty goofy unless you had previously been running non staggered tires and then decided to get more rear width to change certain handling aspects. Go 225 all around to start out with.

To answer your question though, 245 on 16x8+32 will clear on the rear of an s13 with stock fenders, as long as you are running a decent amount of camber.
Modified by naed240sx at 11:55 AM 9/7/2006

[94_240sx]

Go 225 all around to start out with.

To answer your question though, 245 on 16x8+32 will clear on the rear of an s13 with stock fenders, as long as you are running a decent amount of camber.

[whiterps13]

How was his comment werd? I thought it was pretty damn imformative...

[94_240sx]

How was his comment werd? I thought it was pretty damn imformative...

Uhh... What I meant was that's THE ANSWER. I also thought about staggering tires on same size rims, but soon found out it's not a good idea thanks to naed240sx. I also bought 4 new RT-615 235/40 17 for my new rims.

[whiterps13]

Aiight, gotcha. I staggered tires on 17x7 rims (205/40 and 225/45) just for the looks, but the handling was way undpredictable. It felt very sloppy and loose..

[94_240sx]

Aiight, gotcha. I staggered tires on 17x7 rims (205/40 and 225/45) just for the looks, but the handling was way undpredictable. It felt very sloppy and loose..

Yup! That's what I heard. I wanted to have fat rear tires for the looks, but decided to get same tires all around. Well..., 235/40 17 still looks bit skinny to me. BTW, naed240sx is the man when it comes to wheels and suspension setups.

[bribot]

cool, thanks for all the help guys. looks like i might go with 225's now

[whiterps13]

Yup! That's what I heard. I wanted to have fat rear tires for the looks, but decided to get same tires all around. Well..., 235/40 17 still looks bit skinny to me. BTW, naed240sx is the man when it comes to wheels and suspension setups.

I personally would have gone with 235/45, but I hate rubber band tires. I take it your running 17x9 +20's?

[naed240sx]

I personally would have gone with 235/45, but I hate rubber band tires. I take it your running 17x9 +20's?

235/45 is a pretty tall tire. It's taller than stock, and is very difficult to fit on the front of an s13 if your car is low, because it will rub like crazy on the firewall or front wheel tubs depending on your castor settings.

235/40s are not rubberband looking. They still have plenty of sidewall, are just slightly smaller diameter than stock, and feel great.

You are telling me these look like rubberbands?

[koukicody]

while were on the subject of 16's, if and when i get a s13, i wanna get those 16x8 +10's on zilvia. sean (needcafors13) has them and it says he has fm 901's on them, and the only size i found for 16's was 195/50vr16, and 205/40wr16. im assuming he has the 205/40's. would this be a good size for those wheels, or something taller with a little more sidewall? thanks in advance.

BTW your car looks great naed. definatley not rubberbands.

[naed240sx]

while were on the subject of 16's, if and when i get a s13, i wanna get those 16x8 +10's on zilvia. sean (needcafors13) has them and it says he has fm 901's on them, and the only size i found for 16's was 195/50vr16, and 205/40wr16. im assuming he has the 205/40's. would this be a good size for those wheels, or something taller with a little more sidewall? thanks in advance..

No offence, but you must have not been searching very hard.

225/50/16 will fit great on those, and is a good size for 16x8, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. Even better is the fact that you can get Hankook RS2s in that size for very cheap.

[koukicody]

No offence, but you must have not been searching very hard.

225/50/16 will fit great on those, and is a good size for 16x8, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. Even better is the fact that you can get Hankook RS2s in that size for very cheap.

no, i didnt search on this paticular subject. i just remember you inquiring about them on the zilvia forum, and your definatly the suspension guru of nico, so i figured you were the best person to ask because you knew the exact wheels i was talking about. so i dont take any offense

thanks again.

[naed240sx]

Yeah, I almost bought those, but I realized that I was gonna end up wanting to go wider than 8", and I also realized that 17s are a hell of a lot better.

[koukicody]

Yeah, I almost bought those, but I realized that I was gonna end up wanting to go wider than 8", and I also realized that 17s are a hell of a lot better.

I just like the looks of 16's on a s13, and there a great offset. most of the ones you find on places like RB motoring are like +35 or +38, used, and 500 bucks! When they do have good offsets they go for alot more. Might as well pay a little extra and get brand new ones with a good offset. Your definatly right on the 17's being better for competition since they have more tire selection and such. but at least they make the rs-2's in 225/50 so thats always a plus.

[94_240sx]

I personally would have gone with 235/45, but I hate rubber band tires. I take it your running 17x9 +20's?

I have 17x8s and sadly offset is +38. Took naed240sx's advice and got 235/40 17 RT-615. 215 and 225 would have given stretched look and 245 would have been little too wide. 235 looks square and perfect. My car is on jack stands right now, so haven't had a chance to drive yet. Can't wait to take corners with those RT-615s.

[N053B133D]

so...while we're talking about tires, I just got some 16x7's with 40 offset (lame, i know, but i got them cheap). I was thinking of going 235s all the way around, but then i realized that i didn't know anything and I should ask you before buying anything. also, i wanted to get the RS2's and, admittedly, i haven't searched to find out what sizes they come in.

[94_240sx]

so...while we're talking about tires, I just got some 16x7's with 40 offset (lame, i know, but i got them cheap). I was thinking of going 235s all the way around, but then i realized that i didn't know anything and I should ask you before buying anything. also, i wanted to get the RS2's and, admittedly, i haven't searched to find out what sizes they come in.

Got this R-S2(Z212) size chart from http://www.hankooktireusa.comSomehow RT-615 & R-S2 don't have in 245/40 17.

[94_240sx]

i tried searching but didnt really find my answer. ok well i just got some new wheels and have been thinkin about running 245's in the rear. the wheels are 16x8 with a +32 offset. it looks like there will be enough room for the coilover but it looks like i might need to roll the fender. i'd just like someones input who actually has done this or is currently running this. thanks guys

brian

Brian,BTW, don't be afraid of rolling fenders. Actually, your car will look better with rolled fenders and tires nicely tucked in. On the other hand, pulling fender is tough. You can get infamous rear fender buckle.

http://www.rollyourfender.com/instruction.html

[naed240sx]

Got this R-S2(Z212) size chart from http://www.hankooktireusa.comSomehow RT-615 & R-S2 don't have in 245/40 17.

Uhhh, dude, 245/40/17 is on that chart. In addition, edgeracing.com sells them.

[94_240sx]

Uhhh, dude, 245/40/17 is on that chart. In addition, edgeracing.com sells them.

Oops! Sorry. What I meant was RT-615. I wasn't interested in R-S2. I might try them next time though. I checked with several places and everyone says RT-615 doesn't have the size 245/40 17...

[naed240sx]

Brian,BTW, don't be afraid of rolling fenders. Actually, your car will look better with rolled fenders and tires nicely tucked in.

It's true that nobody should be afraid of fenderwork. However, fenderwork won't be neccesary for 16x8+32 with 225s. Doing fenderwork with such a wheel setup would be stupid, because even rolling fenders results in a slight pull, and so the wheels would look more sunken in.

On the other hand, pulling fender is tough. You can get infamous rear fender buckle.

Ehh, pulling fenders is no tougher than rolling. You just can't pull much more than 20mm without buckling it.

[bribot]

Brian,BTW, don't be afraid of rolling fenders. Actually, your car will look better with rolled fenders and tires nicely tucked in. On the other hand, pulling fender is tough. You can get infamous rear fender buckle.

http://www.rollyourfender.com/instruction.html

yea my roommate has an actuall fender roller but im afraid of cracking the paint... he rolled his e36 M3 for 275 v710's ( which is insane btw) and it cracked, he heated it also. and another roommate cracked his paint on his miata so im kinda scared to even try unless i absolutely have to... oh well, ive made my decision on 235's so i guess we'll see how they are when i get them all mounted up. thanks alot guys for the very informative and useful replies.