federal judge set's trial date for obamas eligibility

[diamondj30]

http://www.gunslot.com/picture...ility

Should be interesting.

[Kalypso]

thats MASSIVE

if this goes through it will turn the country upside down.

[diamondj30]

I bet obama gets it sqwashed or something.The corporation run's deep!He's spent about a million of our dollars fighting this so far.All he has to do comply.What's the big deal ?So far he hides his roots like hitler.lol.Heck, banker doors design behind the seat in congress say it all!!dont you just love sybolism,lol.

[dusred]

Seems like another politician we know was charged with "ethics violations" and she came right out and fought them even spending over a million (correct me if I'm wrong) in attorney fees. All charges have since been dismissed.

If he is innocent why can't he do the same?

[HashiriyaS14]

Interesting.

I still contend that this must have already been settled. The Democrats would have extensively vetted him before allowing him to become the nominee, his being potentially not a citizen would be an enormous electoral risk. They would never assume they could hide something like this, and they wouldn't forget to ask either.

That doesn't mean this all isn't still interesting and/or relevant, however.

Assuming the validity of his citizenship is indeed a given, why then would the documents not have been released?

Potentially, because it would appear to be validating those who are questioning him, but I feel like that's a reach.

I don't know what the answer is, but I guess we'll see. We may never know the motivation.

[4cefed]

It's basically a non-issue now. The time for this was before he was elected. Even if he was really born in Kenya he's had so long now to cover his tracks we'll never know the truth.

The chances of this working to get him removed from office are about .01% All this will really amount to is a bunch of people who lost the election complaining about it.

Besides, Biden scares the s*** out of me more than obama.

[diamondj30]

They wiped the first black president and some others from our history book's.They are large and in charge,lol.

http://virtualology.com/revolu...nmoor/

[srellim234]

Notice where the case is. Orange County, CA, an ultraconservative right wing area noted for electing "over the top" people. It's pretty easy to shop around and find a judge sympathetic to the "birthers" there.

Even though his citizenship has been independently checked and the Dems certainly looked at it before the primaries (do you believe for a minute that the Clintons didn't thoroughly check him out before the Republicans started to?) this whole thing has now settled into producing lousy foreign forgeries of birth certificates. Remember that in this country anyone can sue for anything. This case is not going anywhere beyond this guy's courtroom but you can bet there will be a lot of screaming about it by extremists and on Fox.

[diamondj30]

independantly check.lol..prove it.

[srellim234]

http://www.snopes.com/politics...e.asp

http://www.politifact.com/trut...rt-ii/

In the face of the above evidence, it's your turn to prove your allegations. Evidence, please! I'm tired of hearing all of these unsubstantiated speculations. Prove your point with solid evidence or be quiet about it.

[diamondj30]

dont make me laugh.by the way.im just wondering like anyone else whats up.

[srellim234]

There's your independent check. You haven't repudiated it with any evidence at all, against the evidence, the organizations or their methodology. Only ridicule. Exactly what are you laughing at? For that matter, what are you wondering about? Since the birth certificate not only has been checked but compared against others from that time period in Hawaii, specifically what would it take in the way of evidence and organizations to get you out of conspiracyland and into reality?

My guess is that you didn't even bother to read the evidence at the links. You are going to believe whatever you want to believe and no amount of evidence is going to sway you.

[diamondj30]

if thats a birth ceriticate im bill cosby

Heres a birth ceriticate.Looks like my 1960 one exactly.Hum,i must have a fake.oh wait,i do,lol.Last name anyway.lolWOOP's,forgot the link,darn brain fog.http://www.cfourstrategies.com/colb.jpg

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[heliochrome85]

its astonishing how little you manage to do other than show your own ridiculousness. its people like you who make up the birther movement. when given hard facts and evidence, you ridicule it. Go ahead, put your tinfoil hat back on, your head might get cold without it.

also, i have met palestinian refugees that have a more solid grasp on the english language and its grammatical rules, than you sir. reading your posts is cruel and inhumane, and likely banned by the Geneva conventions.

state your case like an adult, and maybe, just maybe, people might take you seriously.

[srellim234]

I'm still waiting for you to make a coherent statement and provide any evidence or argument in any way, shape or form. Are you capable of providing either?

[UpStar]

http://www.gunslot.com/picture...ility

Should be interesting.

It will not be interesting, but it will be another embarassing moment to the repubs partys. This is just another ill minded right wing attempt to discredit what has already been proven. This is just another sick move by Republicans and it will put them in a tough spot when they ATTEMPT to run for in the next presidential election. People need to grow up.

[diamondj30]

left ,right ,march,lmao.Thought i said i was watching .Im not a judge.Apparently you guys are judges,lol.

Boy just like U.S. mainstream news around here, huh.http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htmMay want to take a class on dialectic's,your weak.The word interesting is subjective.Hey i do alright,I finished 3rd-9th grade,lol.

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[diamondj30]

'also, i have met palestinian refugees that have a more solid grasp on the english language and its grammatical rules, than you sir. reading your posts is cruel and inhumane, and likely banned by the Geneva conventions."

Why didnt you just use blacks,lmao

[srellim234]

You did not say you were watching. You said you were "wondering like anyone else." Please specify who "anyone else" is. Most rational human beings have moved beyond the issue and accept that he is a U.S. citizen with a valid birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.

Additionally, you are not "watching" when you make a definitive statement like you made in your second post. "So far he hides his roots like hitler." You made the judgement.

Again, in the face of evidence to the contrary by independent organizations, just what is still making you wonder? You started this conversation. Don't expect to get away without your viewpoint being challenged.

I'm still waiting for a coherent reply. Cryptic nonsense with "lol" and "lmao" thrown in accomplishes absolutely nothing and contributes nothing to what should be a very serious discussion.

[szh]

http://www.gunslot.com/picture...ility

Should be interesting.

Not really.

While I am not in favor of President Obama (did not vote for him either and do not regret this decision), I find this silliness a waste of time and tax-payer money.

The notion of his being ineligible have gone beyond the pale of rational thinking. The fact is that having a US citizen as a mother (which no one denies) pretty much settles the question of his eligibility ... regardless of where he was born.

Move on to real issues with his administration, folks!

Z

[diamondj30]

i know i dont want him out.That would leave us biden.A zionist for president doesnt float my boat,lol.Id rather obama be there.

[heliochrome85]

im pretty sure you use the word zionist more often than i do, and coming from an arab, thats saying something..

at this point, ive read enough of your posts to realize you know absolutely nothing about nothing, and are just as deranged as the old cook who claimed Obama was a muslim at the infamous John McCain rally. Do yourself a favor and stop dredging up "facts" from webpages that no one has ever heard of.

you want to talk about facts, use legit sources. until then, go away and let the adults talk.

[smockers83]

Don't feed the squirrels.

[heliochrome85]

good point smocky.

[diamondj30]

muslim,hum.never heard that before..arab yes,lol.I dont use talking point memo's.im a constitutionalist.Not a U.S.T.V. NEWS WATCHER,LMFAO

[Sentientbydesign]

im pretty sure you use the word zionist more often than i do, and coming from an arab, thats saying something..

at this point, ive read enough of your posts to realize you know absolutely nothing about nothing, and are just as deranged as the old cook who claimed Obama was a muslim at the infamous John McCain rally. Do yourself a favor and stop dredging up "facts" from webpages that no one has ever heard of.

you want to talk about facts, use legit sources. until then, go away and let the adults talk.

I believe the logic follows that knowing nothing about nothing implies knowing something about everything.

I find it interesting that most of the "arguing" in here comes from those who are so "happy" that their questionable party has the presidency. Don't get me wrong. Biden, McCain, and Palin are no better, but rallying that your choice won and fighting to keep him in the position is comical.

I haven't read enough about this legitimacy situation to know what to believe. What I do believe is that Obama is NOT helping our country and that he IS hiding quite a bit.

How many people need to be assasinated for Hilary to take the seat?

[C-Kwik]

How is that any different than with the people who make arguments against the current POTUS? Tea parties anyone? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. And here, so long as it remains respectful and is a reasonable attempt at having an intelligent discussion, no opinion is wrong. Afterall, its nothing more than opinion. Ultimately, your pointing fingers at people who support Obama, all the while, there are people trying to unseat him with little to no legitimacy. I had some issues with the link in the OP yesterday so I couldn't respond specifically, but if you follow it to a second link in the article itself, you'll find that the person behind this lawsuit has been denied several times before. In one case, she presented false evidence to try and refute Obama's citizenship. I'm all for hearing about credible evidence on the subject, but ultimately this person has cried wolf too many times.

http://www.snopes.com/politics...t.asp

As for Obama not providing the birth certificate, it was verified by Hawaiian officials and supposedly a copy was released on the internet. Perhaps he could clear it up easily, but speculatively, I think there is a precedent to be considered when we have to require more of one person than another. Especially when it involves personal documents. And ultimately, if he passed the sniffer based on the requirements by the government, then that should be enough unless specific proof can be found that would raise questions. None have. The burden of proof is on the plaintiffs. There is no legal precedent that requires anyone to provide evidence of innocence. And as far as I can tell, this is the type of crap the plaintiff party is trying to pull. This is right up there with most class action suits.

[USsil80]

it does relay on the plantiff to prove the guilt.... you can't just acuse then say prove your innocent.... but i really hope they win though

[telcoman]

http://www.gunslot.com/picture...ility

Should be interesting.

It sure will be interesting. They may very well wind up in jail with heavy fines and perhaps property seizures.

That was how the klan was put out of business.

Here is a judge that just put another wingnut in their place

http://blogs.ajc.com/political...-suit/

Telcoman

[AZhitman]

It sure will be interesting. They may very well wind up in jail with heavy fines and perhaps property seizures.

That was how the klan was put out of business.

Speaking of wingnuts, anyone who would advocate jail, fines, and seizure of personal property for simply demanding an answer is definitely a wingnut.

Anyone who would compare a law-abiding participant in a court proceeding to the Klan is a wingnut too.

Interesting that you invoke the Klan. Are you implying that this is racially-motivated as well?

Never mind, I already know the answer. You've played the race card a lot.

While I <personally> think it's a waste of time, what's your big problem with it?

Did you know that it will be the first time the merits of the dispute have been argued in open court?

Whatcha afraid of? Is it hurting you in any way? Maybe BO should just comply with the request and shut them up. Or is there something more to it?

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So, an attorney has no right to file a case in a US court? Really?

Let me get this straight: The party that DEFENDS the right to bring frivolous lawsuits, is now calling for sanctions against someone for bringing a "frivolous" lawsuit?

Hmmm. Hypocrisy smells like patchouli.

It's a real role-reversal to see a Lefty trying to trample on people's personal freedoms, stifle open debate, invoke hateful speech and silence the dissenters.