???????squik wrote:A Z costs around 28 base. My coupe was 32 sticker, so I would say a Z is faster for cheaper....
and a Lotta hairs ugliernismofly wrote:the wrx...hair faster for a hair cheaper
rjdmmfl1 wrote:
and a Lotta hairs uglier
if the 2009 is awd i'm trading in! lolspockrock wrote:call me canadian, but I wish our cars came with an AWD option
Oh yeah me too.....mcheddadi wrote:
if the 2009 is awd i'm trading in! lol
yea but go n buy that car n by 25k miles ull have a blown engine n MANY other problems those cars blow....the good part about the A/C is that alot of people dont know wat it is yet....makes it even sexier and i mean its a nissan itll last alot longer than any gt or any american car for that matterMagicM wrote:under 30k probably the Pontiac G8 GT 361-hp, 6.0-liter V-8 which is basically a detuned corvette engine. and at around 33K you can get a GTO which basically the Full daddy 400 Horsepower corvette engine 0-60 under 5 seconds easy. American cars usually give the best value for pure horsepower per dollar. Next best is Japanese, and European cars are the worst.
As much as i would like to agree, majority of Japanese cars that make their way into America are basically like sofas with wheels, to meet the needs of the average American. While much better than US cars on average i don't believe they're better than the European counterparts in general.racingtiger03 wrote:. As the above guy mentioned Amercans first for power.. well Japanese first for handling lol in
while the car itself is probably cheap and a piece of junk the engine is not. The ls1/ls2 corvette engine is one of the most reliable engines in the world, and one of the easiest to fix /upgrade. the previous ls1 has been used for over 50 years, what other engine has even been close to being used for that long?.As for how people complain about American cars drinking gas the corvette with 400+ HP is rated at 18 city and 28 high, close to that of the 3.5 A/c. My friend owns one and we're actually capable of nearly 25+ mpg on the highway and i live in Calgary which is 3500 Ft above sea level, not to mention you have 400hp and 400 lbs/ft of torque to back it up. The ls engine can take extreme punishment over and over and still keep running, if both Nissan VQ and LS1 were both pushed extremely hard under the same circumstances the Nissan engine would blow far before the lS engine would.PhEnoM78 wrote:
yea but go n buy that car n by 25k miles ull have a blown engine n MANY other problems those cars blow....the good part about the A/C is that alot of people dont know wat it is yet....makes it even sexier and i mean its a nissan itll last alot longer than any gt or any American car for that matter
totally out off topic but anytime i hear after the eulogy i go ape****! i saw your avatarnismofly wrote:took a quick glance through that list and went straight to the wrx...hair faster for a hair cheaper
that awd stuff works wonders
Your absolutley right. The European class of cars imported to america have a much larger range of much better handling cars. They are built to perform much better on the twisties than 80% of Japanese vehicles.MagicM wrote:
As much as i would like to agree, majority of Japanese cars that make their way into America are basically like sofas with wheels, to meet the needs of the average American. While much better than US cars on average i don't believe they're better than the European counterparts in general.
The LS1 motor was just created for the Corvette in 1997 to replace the LT1. 50 years, I think not. The LS1 didn't share much in similarity to the previous chevy V8's, except the 5.7L displacement.MagicM wrote:while the car itself is probably cheap and a piece of junk the engine is not. The ls1/ls2 corvette engine is one of the most reliable engines in the world, and one of the easiest to fix /upgrade. the previous ls1 has been used for over 50 years, what other engine has even been close to being used for that long?
This may be true, however, he's not talking about an LS1 or LS2. He's speaking of the L76 motor used in G8. Its basically just a hopped up verison of the GM Vortec 6000 used in the new GM trucks and suvs. Since this motor has only been around for a year, I wouldn't be making any sure fire statements of its reliability.MagicM wrote:
if both Nissan VQ and LS1 were both pushed extremely hard under the same circumstances the Nissan engine would blow far before the lS engine would.
The L76 is a LS2 engine used in the corvette with very minor difference, and the GTO's pretty much use the exact ls2 motors from the corvette. As for the engine it's basic design has been used for over 50 years, while most other companies will keep their engine for about 10 throw it away and start with something new. Even the engines in the truck as the new Escalade the L92 is pretty much a corvette engine 6.2L V8 making nearly the same power.adidas2go wrote:
The LS1 motor was just created for the Corvette in 1997 to replace the LT1. 50 years, I think not. The LS1 didn't share much in similarity to the previous chevy V8's, except the 5.7L displacement.
This may be true, however, he's not talking about an LS1 or LS2. He's speaking of the L76 motor used in G8. Its basically just a hopped up verison of the GM Vortec 6000 used in the new GM trucks and suvs. Since this motor has only been around for a year, I wouldn't be making any sure fire statements of its reliability.
WOW, the "Poor Man's G35" (2007 3.5 A/C) kicked the "less poor man's G35"'s (G35 coupe) a$$ in the 0-60 times [and quarter mile from what I have heard from EVERY single head to head race... ]{WBK}Viper wrote:AC 3.5 0-60 in 5.8 for 25,200
350Z 0-60 in 5.4 for 28,500
MazdaSpeed 3 0-60 in 5.8 for 24,500 or so.
You pay less than 1K more for a much cooler car IMO with the AC.
4 tenths? I'd expect the Z to do better than that for a true sports car.
I think the AC holds it's self up just fine in comparison.
Check out this 0-60 comparison website...sorry if it's been posted before.
http://www.performancecarnews....Table
Based on their table....the AC is awesome for the price range. The only cars I found that are close to the AC in price and performance MazdaSpeed 3, Subaru Impreza, Mustang GT, Dodge Calibre GT. And all those care SUCK!!!!
So be happy with the AC.
http://www.performancecarnews....Table