failed search attempt, 5 lug s13 question.

[nismo newb]

ok guys so i totally suck at life. the only cars i know anything about are hondas. anyways, ive looked for hours now on what is needed for a 5 lug conversion and im completely confused and frustrated with the wishy washy information. apparently there are several ways to convert to 5 lug including redrilling stock rotors, s14 brakes, and z32 brakes. all i need is a complete in depth parts list.

car is a 90 240 (not sure what model, power windows, manual locks, no sun roof). also the suspension is completely stock and i read the rear suspension on a z32 uses a fork style strut mount...so i guess i need to retain the stock 240 mount for the time being at least.

what im trying to do: 30mm z32 front brakes (complete), and bigger vented rear rotors with 2 piston calipers. i need to know literally EVERY single part i will need in order to do this. ive searched and there is too much contradiction for me to gather any useful info. also how much i can expect to spend for parts only (ill be doing the labor myself). thanks in advance and i appologize for asking what is probably a really typical newb question, i just want to be certain of what im getting into.
Modified by nismo newb at 11:44 AM 5/28/2007

[AZhitman]

Welcome aboard!

I'll make this REAL easy for you - DO NOT try to "piecemeal" this job. Buy the 5-lug hub conversion made by Ichiba, available from our sponsors, cheaper than you can collect all the junkyard parts. (Plus, you get new hubs / bearings, not junkyard garbage.)

Then, buy your Z32 calipers used from the Classifieds here, stainless lines from one of our sponsors (lots to choose from), Z32 rotors, and new pads. You're DONE!

p.s. No need to get crazy with "vented" rear rotors, you're talking about a lot more modification, and the 240 doesn't need that kind of rear brake action.... Focus on the fronts, and get tires that will handle your new braking power.

[elwesso]

another good choice if you dont want to have wheel clearance issues is to use Q45 brakes.. They bolt on (even using stock 240 lines)

I agree about the conversion kit. It will be a little spendier but its the only way to go because chances are if you want to run the car hard youre gonna wanna have fresh bearings anyway.

[nismo newb]

there was mention of using s14 uprights and just a bunch of other stuff. what is that required to do (like which conversion)...i dont even really know how to ask the question its confused me so much. is that required to use stock hubs or something? im seriously burnt out over this.

also do i need to get a z32 master cylinder? something was said about the brake bias being off if you dont which will cause your brakes to lock up with less pedal travel than if you had the matching mc. whats needed to mate a z32 mc and booster (if needed) to the s13 chassis?

and lastly...the rear would be mainly for show, i honestly just wanna use stock z32 calipers and have the whole set powdercoated the same color as the redtop valve cover...it may be considered ricey i guess..but its functional as well sooooo..yeah.

[nismo newb]

Welcome aboard!

I'll make this REAL easy for you - DO NOT try to "piecemeal" this job. Buy the 5-lug hub conversion made by Ichiba, available from our sponsors, cheaper than you can collect all the junkyard parts. (Plus, you get new hubs / bearings, not junkyard garbage.)

Then, buy your Z32 calipers used from the Classifieds here, stainless lines from one of our sponsors (lots to choose from), Z32 rotors, and new pads. You're DONE!

p.s. No need to get crazy with "vented" rear rotors, you're talking about a lot more modification, and the 240 doesn't need that kind of rear brake action.... Focus on the fronts, and get tires that will handle your new braking power.

were you reffering to the front and rear? z32 all around? im under the impression that s14 rears are needed, and z32's wont work on the rear without a lot of modding. also, i read that the rear rotors on an s13 arent vented (no fins, just solid metal im assuming) whereas the s14 and z32 are, and also utilize bigger calipers. if you meant z32 all around and ive been misinformed then the comment about not needing vented rotors in the rear is what threw me off...i feel like a dumb ***...seriously.

[elwesso]

You can either use a Q45 or Z32 MC, however if your car is a non ABS car your going to have issues because all Z and Q had ABS (i dont know if you could get a Z without ABS?)

You dont have ot get a MC its sort of icing on the cake if you will, plenty of people use Z32 brakes on 240s without Z MC's.

Using the ichiba setup you are simply replacing the hubs and wheel bearings and instead of having 4 lug hubs they have 5 lug. Simple!!

To use Z brakes in the rear you have to find new spindles and then rig up the Ebrake (because the Z and 240 use a different Ebrake setup)

I dont know about teh S14s having vented rea rrotors but its not that big of a deal... at the end of the day the fronts are gonna be doing a lot more work than the rears.

[bone_stock_240]

Check this link out. Very helpful for front and back brake swap.

http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm

[nismo newb]

i dont know if my car has abs, i doubt it cus i havent seen a light but then again i havent looked for it either. out of curiousity, would kind of problems would using an abs mc on a non abs equipped car cause? id kinda like to convert to abs if i dont have it but ive never really looked into doing that...i imagine it would be pretty strenuous.

[nismo newb]

Check this link out. Very helpful for front and back brake swap.

http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htm

ive been there already, it aided in confusing me a little. thanks though.

re-reading it after gathering information from the people that have commented so fair cleared most of the issues up, thanks to everyone for their helpful info. my brain hurts...

[bone_stock_240]

I think converting to ABS would be more trouble than it is worth. Easy way to check if your car is ABS is pop the hood and look at the back of the engine bay, on the passenger side up against the firewall. The ABS unit is there, and it has alot of hardlines coming off of it. I don't think the ABS makes that much of a difference on the MC because the MC usually has removable plugs inthe fittings that aren't needed so you can use the same one for ABS or non ABS

[nismo newb]

just saw that on the site linked above. the first time i read the write up, there was just too much information, and a lot of stuff that didnt really need to be there. too many words and im mildly retarded...not a good combo, haha.