Exhaust you havnt heard!! or have you??

[rm125RideR]

I know that a ton of nissan drivers have the giant catback canister in the back for there exhaust, but what if instead of a catback (sounding like all the honda's) you put a masterflow or edlebrock sounding exaust on like the muscle cars. i was wondering if this would give it an unique sound because of only 4 cylinders, not hating on the catbacks just looking for something diffrent,

Whats your input?
Modified by rm125RideR at 12:54 AM 5/15/2009

[sil8tdrftr]

i dont think that most nissan drivers have an exhaust that sounds "like" a honda... if thats the case they failed... MOST nissan guys have swaps and run either stock or full "TURBO BACK" exhaust from turbo outlet all the way back.... and all ive seen here in the bay area so far is fail... "fart can"/honda sounds cuz nor cal is full of honda tekkers switching over to the bandwagon 240 scene...

masterflow or edlebrock they both sound like crap in my opinion... anything other than cat back or turbo back or header straight through is rice territory

[240sxFTW]

why make a tuner sound like a muscle car. theres lots of exausts out there. ive heard like 4 240s in person in my life. 1 is my car. my car sounds like a stock 4 cylinder (because it is). my buddys had a obx header to 3 inch all the way back with test pipe, and like a 6 inch can. dam. as he drove down a street, car alarms were buzzin. but yeah my point is that theres many of exausts out there to choose from. throaty to high pitched to gargling whatever the hell you want man just hit up you tube.

[urcaptnspeaking]

...umm cat back has nothing to do with the exhaust sound/per say. Its where the exhaust starts: cat= catalytic converter.

The muffler itself has the most adverse effect on exhaust note. If you want to get technical: diameter,cat,muffler,various things like even a header (as opposed to a manifold) and even exhaust tip can make it sound slightly different. Having like a 1 into two pipe would have a slight difference to a single exhaust. These things may make it louder or throatier,but hardly noticeable. there are more factors that just having a cat back that make the sound of a car.

ALSO mufflers like ones you mentioned will make the car sound hollow and 'metallic'. It wont sound awful when idling, but in the upper rpm's it will have that sound "you dont like."

3 inch would be too big for a stock KA. That motor doesnt need to breathe that much, and may actually lose performance (noticeable when dynoed of course, not really felt)

Assuming you have a fairly stock KA 2 1/2 inch will be fine. If you are looking for a performance gain without the "rice sound" go with a high flow cat back with a muffler that has a subtle sound. Like some Apexi stuff ive heard. A little more muted, less prominant.

Dart Izumi... is a little less common.


Modified by urcaptnspeaking at 3:37 AM 5/15/2009

[XMSducksauce]

The more echoey rumbling thunder sound that you think of from a muscle car is partly from the preaxle muffler, vs the tuner postaxle canister straight-through muffler. I do know that on a smaller engine you can get big rumbling sound like you think of with a muscle car by getting similar exhaust built for your import. I have a friend that has a Mitsubishi 3000GT that has a Flowmaster muffler and custom pipes and all that jazz and it sounds like a big V8. That's his SOHC 3.0L V6. Everywhere we go in it, people are always telling him it sounds amazing, and it does. If you have a muffler before your axle and then get pipe bent back to the rear you'll get big rumbling sound like that and I can tell you it'll sound much different than your typical bolt on exhaust system. Even if done from the catalytic converter back.

[tctomasc]

i dont think that most nissan drivers have an exhaust that sounds "like" a honda... if thats the case they failed... MOST nissan guys have swaps and run either stock or full "TURBO BACK" exhaust from turbo outlet all the way back.... and all ive seen here in the bay area so far is fail... "fart can"/honda sounds cuz nor cal is full of honda tekkers switching over to the bandwagon 240 scene...

masterflow or edlebrock they both sound like crap in my opinion... anything other than cat back or turbo back or header straight through is rice territory

I'm not a honda bandwagoner .that's a terrible misrepresentation of the bay. And I do love hondas...

[urcaptnspeaking]

That's his SOHC 3.0L V6.

which will sound nothing like the ka..

[blacksrjdm]

The only way to really make a 240sx sound like it has a v8 under the hood, is to swap a v8 into it. And doesnt matter where you put the muffler or what kind, the muffler isnt gonna change the amount of engine you have under the hood or the sound very much. You might get a very low tone out of a magnaFLOW muffler, but, it isnt gonna have a v8 rumble or sound...ever. There is a whole thread selling the magnaflow catbacks and they sound like most other exhaust systems on 4 cylinders.

[Logan76]

who cares if it sounds like a v8, if it does'nt perform like it has one?

[blacksrjdm]

Exactly my point.

[slyedog240sx]

...umm cat back has nothing to do with the exhaust sound/per say. Its where the exhaust starts: cat= catalytic converter.The muffler itself has the most adverse effect on exhaust note. If you want to get technical: diameter,cat,muffler,various things like even a header (as opposed to a manifold) and even exhaust tip can make it sound slightly different. Having like a 1 into two pipe would have a slight difference to a single exhaust. These things may make it louder or throatier,but hardly noticeable. there are more factors that just having a cat back that make the sound of a car.ALSO mufflers like ones you mentioned will make the car sound hollow and 'metallic'. It wont sound awful when idling, but in the upper rpm's it will have that sound "you dont like."3 inch would be too big for a stock KA. That motor doesnt need to breathe that much, and may actually lose performance (noticeable when dynoed of course, not really felt) Assuming you have a fairly stock KA 2 1/2 inch will be fine. If you are looking for a performance gain without the "rice sound" go with a high flow cat back with a muffler that has a subtle sound. Like some Apexi stuff ive heard. A little more muted, less prominant.Dart Izumi... is a little less common.Modified by urcaptnspeaking at 3:37 AM 5/15/2009

ever hear of a resonator?

[urcaptnspeaking]

why yes, yes I have. But i was just hitting on key points here. Im not going to write a book in a thread.

[slyedog240sx]

why yes, yes I have. But i was just hitting on key points here. Im not going to write a book in a thread.

All i'm saying is that without a resonator you will not hit near as deep of tone as op is searching for ,and therefore everything you wrote is garbage to an extint without a resonator being mentioned when it comes to the tone of an exhaust.

[blacksrjdm]

All i'm saying is that without a resonator you will not hit near as deep of tone as op is searching for ,and therefore everything you wrote is garbage to an extint without a resonator being mentioned when it comes to the tone of an exhaust.

Problem is, he is looking for a v8 rumble out of a 4 cylinder. Not gonna happen unless you put a v8 in it. OP get an RSR Xmag. Sounds good, not ricey sounding, and you wont be setting off any car alarms.

[urcaptnspeaking]

a resonator.. reduces/controls noise. Now explain to me how without a resonator he will not get a deep sound? And are you referring to the resonator chamber within the muffler or the resonator that SOME cars have beyond the muffler itself?

[blacksrjdm]

Yo pissing match...end it, IT IS OVER A F*CKING RESONATOR.

And I can piss further soooo. There.
Modified by blacksrjdm at 7:09 AM 5/15/2009

[S14toRPS13]

Back in the height of the import days, people liked the sound of 4 bangers with a catback exhuast. Just because muscle cars are in and imports have faded off a bit, everyone wants their imports to be more like muscle cars now. F*ck all this fad! Like muscle cars and imports for what they are and for their differences. Stop being a bandwagoner and such a tool!

[urcaptnspeaking]

no pissing match on my side here. I was offering some info, and this dude called my info crap.. I have no interest in arguing with this dude about . I offered up what the OP asked for.

[blacksrjdm]

I still own 4 bangers and rice boxes, simply because of their technology and power to weight ratio. But, any manual trans 4 cyl car I am gonna own is gonna get an exhaust, so that I can hear the tone. I like v8 rumble, but I love my spooling 4 cyl and its tone.

[addisonblck]

pissing match or not i'm reading both the info they're giving so....

[roplusbee]

I am not so sure that you can get the sound that you are looking for with standard KA setup. It is entirely possible, but may be more cash and work than you bargin for.

LS1 Swap maybe?

[urcaptnspeaking]

No pissing match just info mixed with opinion. "What sounds best" is very opinion based and an unwinnable arguement. The OP will find something he likes.

[Guappone240]

I plain on runing soome cheap catback for my N/A KA24E. It's just pipe people as long as it gets e3xhaust from point a to b it works for me. With the exception of some nice DC heders. but other then then that /i don't see the big deal going like that. My parts store carries muscle car s*** and they have some nice high flow mufffs for good prices. unless your trying to impress your jdm boyfriend just go with what you want. it's your car and your choice.

[slyedog240sx]

Yo pissing match...end it, IT IS OVER A F*CKING RESONATOR.

And I can piss further soooo. There.

Modified by blacksrjdm at 7:09 AM 5/15/2009

who's in a pissin match?I am not fond of golden showers really.All i did was add the missing factor in the post.Far from pissin match.A resonator will cancel some of the higher frequencies.You want a DEEPER tone, add a long resonator, that is all.

[mrgrape]

I f***INHATE HONDA CATS...they sound like a BIRD CHIRPING and its f***IN AWFUL ON THE FREEWAY.

anywas i have reinhard and it sounds like a V8 with RESONATOR!

[addisonblck]

No pissing match just info.... The OP will find something he likes.

[Rawrvasour]

I have never heard a 240 that sounded like a honda. That annoying a** BUZZ its like BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ahahahhaha, if you have that on your 240 then you must have really tried to make it that way. I have a 3" catback with a high flow cat and its a really deep sound its not like a honda at all.

[adrianfromthecastle]

yeah... like everyone says... the cat back doesn't decides how the engine will sound, it just amplifies it.

[masterdisaster]

currently running a Blitz cat back exhaust on my sr s13 .. sounds good ..

but wanna make it louder .. but without the 5 inch can out the back ..

so i got a 3inch front pipe that also removes the cat ... gonna keep my Biltz resonator and install a CherryBomb Vortex ( 3 inch in, twin 3inch out)

hopefully it sounds good .. gonna try and install it this weekend .. and get some b4 and after audio from it