Exhaust System Questions...

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Congrats bro! I just dropped mine off. Unfortunately I overslept and didn't have a chance for any before video. One solution to your issue is to dynamat the floor, doors and tailgate.

Billy

Well my doors, tailgate and rear quarter panels are all Dynamated. I think the missing link is the cargo area floor and the floor under the rear seats.

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Well I finally got under the car to take some pictures and a short video. I couldn't really get under the car to get good pics, so you'll have to excuse the awkward angles. Also, the video quality is really pretty crappy and it does absolutely no justice. My exhaust isn't loud at all, but it's not as quiet as the video suggests.

Also, the exhaust tips were supposed to be tucked up behind the rear bumper and wasn't supposed to be visible from behind the vehicle. However, the guy said that if I were to put then tips behind the bumper it would eventually put black soot all over the bumper and possibly deform the bumper from hot exhaust gasses. I didn't get chrome tips since I didn't think they would be visible, but now I'm starting to change my mind.

Magnaflow Dual Exhaust Video

[KyooX4]

Awesome!

Also, the exhaust tips were supposed to be tucked up behind the rear bumper and wasn't supposed to be visible from behind the vehicle. However, the guy said that if I were to put then tips behind the bumper it would eventually put black soot all over the bumper and possibly deform the bumper from hot exhaust gasses. I didn't get chrome tips since I didn't think they would be visible, but now I'm starting to change my mind.

I don't know anything about exhaust, but what about cutting the pipes here? And maybe angling the ends downward more?

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Awesome!

I don't know anything about exhaust, but what about cutting the pipes here? And maybe angling the ends downward more?

Well, I think if I cut the exhaust right after the axle, I may get a lot of exhaust gas build-up under the vehicle at a stand still which would likely make its way into the cabin and the car would always smell like exhaust. I'm thinking I may be able to get the tips slash-cut (at the red line in the picture below) so they point down somewhat and will be much less visible from behind the vehicle. Either that or I may have to have him cut the pipes back a little and put on some chrome tips, which was really the last thing I wanted to do (I don't want any chrome on my Pathy and I had a lot of trouble keeping the chrome tips on my old car clean).

[Empty V]

Pwnin that looks and sounds great bro! Do you not dig the chrome tips because they're too flashy or too hard to maintain? I chose my tips based on the low profile look. So are you stoked or just meh?

Billy

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Pwnin that looks and sounds great bro! Do you not dig the chrome tips because they're too flashy or too hard to maintain? I chose my tips based on the low profile look. So are you stoked or just meh?

Billy

To be honest, I'm kinda just meh. I mean the noise on the outside is really almost perfect, it's not very loud at all and it's really smooth and whatnot, it's the inside noise I'm not too stoked about. Inside the car it sounds exactly like when I had the pipe over the rear axle rust apart, the car was really loud under acceleration. I thought maybe he had not welded a seam completely, but everything is welded perfectly.

Anyhow, I didn't go with chrome tips because they were really hard to maintain on my old car since I don't wash my car as much over the winter. I also was planning on having the tips hidden behind the rear bumper so I just had them placed right next to each other without any tips, if I had wanted them to be visible I would definitely had gone with a split setup and some tips exactly like yours.

I'm gonna go over to the exhaust guy today and see if he can just do the slash cut and see if that helps. I'll post a pic once it's done.

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Well I got the exhaust tips angle cut yesterday and I couldn't be happier with the results. The tips are still visible from behind the vehicle, but just barely. Also, with the angled tips, the exhaust is angled toward the ground so I wont get any black soot or a melting bumper. This was the look I was going for originally.

Also, nevermind the large amounts of rust or the dirty car and touched-up bumper (which I am still in the process of fixing).









Let me know what you think

[Empty V]

Wow dude did an excellent job. It looks really clean and everything is offset perfectly. And thanks a lot, after looking at your old setup and thinking about what you wanted to accomplish with the new modification now I want to change mine. What do you think about cutting holes and running the tips through the bumper? It's just and idea and will increase departure angle by a few inches. Of course I would have to find bumper protector heat shields.

Billy

[GRNMACHINE]

Pwnin, very nice, looks like a very well installed system. He did a real nice job. Slash cuts look great too. I have a Magnaflow dual in single out. The drone in the cabin is somewhat loud but not bad. Like you sound, deeper tone, not V8 but definitely not 4 cyclinder ricer either.

[slickroger]

Looks sweet, I personally like seeing the exhaust tips but what you have done here is making me question what I like.

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Wow dude did an excellent job. It looks really clean and everything is offset perfectly. And thanks a lot, after looking at your old setup and thinking about what you wanted to accomplish with the new modification now I want to change mine. What do you think about cutting holes and running the tips through the bumper? It's just and idea and will increase departure angle by a few inches. Of course I would have to find bumper protector heat shields.

Billy

Haha thanks man. Well, the exhaust through the bumper idea may be a little crazy haha. It would be cool as hell and definitely one-of-a-kind, but probably also expensive as hell. You would have to also cut holes through the steel bumper, which may not be great if you got in an accident. I found that the exhaust ALWAYS dragged when off-roading, it was inevitable. My post muffler broke off within a year of owning my Pathy.

Looks sweet, I personally like seeing the exhaust tips but what you have done here is making me question what I like.

Thanks, it looks super clean and my friends got confused when they heard the exhaust but didn't see one. They all think I'm building a sleeper Pathy (except for the cargo basket/light bar).

[GRNMACHINE]

I agree with Slick, I usually like the tips showing but I too am second guessing. That looks really really clean (looked at the pics again). How did they recut the tips and make them look so smooth and finished? Alot of shops go SawZall crazy and you cant get a smooth finish like that, and the possibility of cutting the plastic bumper cover as well. Those bends really look clean. It looks like they sprayed a gray primer around the welds also? Again, Nice Job! Sounds good too!!

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Well I didn't know much about the guy who was doin my exhaust, he just happened to be the only guy that had a pipe bender withing a 20 mile radius to my home. This guy worked for a local import shop just doing custom exhaust, so it's all he does. When I went back to him to have him angle cut the tips he showed me a couple of other jobs he was working on. He showed me a Porsche racing car and a really nice hot rod (Chevy from 1920-1930's), both of which he fabricated a custom exhaust for. Apparently this guy really knew his $hit, he does really great work. More specifically, on my car he used 16ga. pipe, welded all of the pipe perfectly and sprayed each weld with primer to prevent premature rusting. He also doubled the number of hangers to make the system more heavy-duty. My new system is bulletproof and I love it. I will definitely go back to him when I need to replace the down pipes and resonators.

After a little over a week of having the exhaust I still couldn't be happier. The system sounds great and I've gotten pretty used to the interior droning. At first the noise was annoying, now I barely think about it. I definitely use my remote starter a lot more just to hear my exhaust when I'm walking up to my car. I also love how the outside noise isn't loud, it's smooth and it's just the right loudness. It's not loud enough to hear it from down the street or attract attention from the popo.

[jedigras]

Hey, I'm in NJ too and I need my exhaust done on my 02 4x4 pathy. Do you mind giving the contact details for your installer? That is a very nice setup.

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Hey, I'm in NJ too and I need my exhaust done on my 02 4x4 pathy. Do you mind giving the contact details for your installer? That is a very nice setup.

I had it done at Hackettstown Motor Imports (Phone: 908-852-0747). I can't remember the installers name but they have only one guy dedicated for custom exhaust fabrication. He does some really great work and I was pretty impressed by some of the other jobs he's done.

[wildlifekid]

I also have a Magnaflow 2 inlet and 1 outlet muffler I got. The whole system cost me under $200 bucks.. The muffler was 60 bucks and to have it install with custom pipes was like 120 bucks... I really enjoy the way it sounds when i start it. It sounds rough and good in the 1200 to 1900 RPMS... On Highway there is no droning at all.. Actually it sounds very quite. I get more noise out of the K&N cold Air intake I have on it.. I will try to put a video of it.. Your EXHAUST SURE SONDS GOOD!!!!

[naladude911]

Yea, I just ordered that and I am getting it installed tomorrow. I am getting all of the pipes replaced with stainless steel, that muffler installed, and a resonator delete

[Pwnin O'Brien]

Yea, I just ordered that and I am getting it installed tomorrow. I am getting all of the pipes replaced with stainless steel, that muffler installed, and a resonator delete

Resonator delete may be a bad idea. After you get it done please post a video of the new exhaust.

[jedigras]

Bleh, I think I'm going the el cheapo route. There's a warehouse in Queens, NY that sells pre-fab'd exhaust systems for our truck. mine has a little hole in the center resonator/muffler thing so I need to get it replaced. The quote for the entire cat-back for my 02 pathy 4x4 SE is about $300 bucks installed at the Speedys next door to the warehouse. Lol, I should do a dyno test and sound compare vs your guys NICE setups

[GRNMACHINE]

wildelife, who did your exhaust--that is cheap!

nala, any pics? I wanted stainless but the price was going to be super high!

jedi-Bosal makes an aftermarket kit for about $100 depending on where you get it.

And as far as the resonator, mine was at the end of the exhaust and only affected sound not performance or backpressure etc. It is off. I do have some drone in the cabin from the Magnaflow but not bad.

[Pwnin O'Brien]

And as far as the resonator, mine was at the end of the exhaust and only affected sound not performance or backpressure etc. It is off. I do have some drone in the cabin from the Magnaflow but not bad.

The resonators are the two catalytic converter looking things under the driver and passenger seats; they are usually the first part of the exhaust to fail (the seams on the sides start to open, leaking exhaust). The thing you're referring to is the post muffler, I deleted that as well. If you delete both resonators then you'll get a LOT of raspiness and interior drone.

[GRNMACHINE]

Pwnin--thanks for clearing that up--I always forget about those resonators. I agree I would not eliminate them. They are often mistaken as 2 extra cats. My exhaust had cracked where the pipe connects to the back of the muffler. Didnt know it for a few weeks, but it explained why I was getting sleepy while driving.... I think the fumes were entering the cabin while idling...

[01qwhite]

ive got a magnaflow dual in single out sounds great cost bout 210 to install.

Ill see if I can get a sound clip.

[fastpathy35]

Thats how i have my pipes ran. Both on one side tucked away. Im not a big fan of seeing pipes unless the bumper is molded for it. Like mustangs. I dont like most v6 engines with loud pipes, and i was unsure of how the pathy would sound. At that time there were no vids anywhere to see what sound i would get. But i like it. Its a deep almost exotic sound. Not like a ranger or s10 pr something of that nature.

[wildlifekid]

I had my exhaust installed at this place called IGGY'S or ZIGGY'S located in Norridge, IL. which is a northwest suburb of Chicago.. He installed my muffler & customs pipes for like $120... Which I thought was pretty cheap.. Just buy your muffler on ebay much cheaper than any other place.. Then I just bought a Stainless Steel Tip for it for like 15 bucks or so.. Well worth the money...

[jedigras]

http://www.autozone.com/autozo...40527

http://www.autozone.com/autozo...41411

Autozone distributes Bosal, for around 360 total to NJ. If you can tell me where to find the exhaust for $100 I would love to know!

jedi-Bosal makes an aftermarket kit for about $100 depending on where you get it.

[02pathy]

do you notice any performance improvements or decrease? good choice with the magnaflow they will hold up long

[GRNMACHINE]

I have heard good things about Iggys/Ziggys from different people. Great price! I think I paid $250 or $260. Brought in my own SS tip also. Thanks for the info.

Re: Bosal question, I will look for the links. I think I did a yahoo/google search for exhaust Nissan Pathfinder and found a number of places. Car parts or JC Whitney. I almost ordered one but wanted any "performance" upgrade I could get for the anemic 3.3 171hp V6... My Magnaflow muffler is guaranteed for life I was told. Love the sound.

[GRNMACHINE]

jedi,

Here is one link:

http://www.partsgeek.com/ntpar...pping

I will keep looking for the other places as well.

[Innovazn]

Just did my Exhaust today after my Catalytic Convertors replaced (ill show some pictures of my old ones when i get home, youll never believe what happened) Anyways

1) 10:00 in the morning, went to pick up my truck from the shop after the job. They installed both my cats with no issues (had the Jackson torsion bar installed as well free of charge ^^) (Cat link off ebay = http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-P ... ccessories) Got for both Passenger and Driver.

2) Paid for the install had them change my oil, top my coolants and fix my oil cooler as it was leaking. Total for the job = 530 after taxes.

3) Drove around happy as shiet for once not seeing my SES light on. Went straight to the local custom shop.

4) Got to the muffler shop got it up on the hoist and had a discussion on whats better. True Dual or Dual in Single Out. They suggested a MagnaFlow dual in single out. Stated going true dual would cost more and no real true gains not to mention putting the spare back might get in the way (even possibly damaging the rubber on it) It was "loud" but smooth. head turning, without drawing too much unwanted attention (they demod off a ford V8 but i got an idea and was sold. damned if i want to look like i was driving an over sized civic with a 4incher)

5) They charged me 448 (after taxes). All stainless steel piping, 2.25 from cats to Muffler, and 2.5 tail out. Muffler costed 180 or so. Im not digging the tail pipe and will most likely get a tip for it but as it stands, I love it...

The tone is deep, its smooth, I find that my shifting point has gone up from around 2.5 to shifting at 3 and up, Dont notice too much performance gains but i didnt get to drive her much to say anything just yet. Cabin noise is good but the music drowns it out easily, Outside it sounds like a lions satsified purr more then a pissed off babboon screaming and yelling.

Overall i am happy as s***.


EDIT:: During my break i went to the truck to hear it again with some co workers. It seems that my idle is higher then normal :S Idle should be at around 750? when i started up the truck it was around 1500, gunned it, lots of smoke (not dark not white not blue) light grey. After that, seemed like it cleared up a bit and dropped the RMPS down just under 1k.. .but still not at 750... any ideas?