exhaust monday

[blindsnyper]

monday morning i am having the rear muffler cut off my V and having a new tailpipe welded on, i unhooked it a few days ago and it is amazing how much better it sounds without that dam thing

[jfanaselle]

Well I'll jump in here first and just say this: expect people on this forum to be upset that you're doing this in a manner that doesn't provide you with a performance upgrade. Alot of people are quick to call someone a ricer on this site if you do anything to your car that doesn't make it faster. I, however, completely understand that some people do mods just for looks (or in this case, sound) so I say more power to you! What new muffler are you having put in?

[TheClevelandSound]

Like me!!!! Hey man, do what u want with the car...its yours, u prolly paid for it, so dont listen to the bs people give u and just do what u want.

[CodeRed]

If your just going for a little extra sound, go ahead and get the axel back. If yo want some extra power and sound go for the cat-back. As cleveland said, do what you want.

[Mr1der]

please, for the sake of all those that drive behind you, and the car as well, just save the money you're gonna spend to do this and buy a real catback.

would you consider cutting springs to lower the car as well?

[stopatnothing]

Like me!!!! Hey man, do what u want with the car...its yours, u prolly paid for it, so dont listen to the bs people give u and just do what u want.

Believe it or not... But its actually not "BS"... Especially what CodeRed had to say. Listen to what people are saying about the axle-back/cat-back because they arent just saying things to be heard, most of the people on here who are giving you (Blind_Snyper) advice are giving it to you from experience and because they think it will help you. Obviously, you dont have to take their advice, but I would highly recommend it.

Just my .02

[blindsnyper]

for those who say so what you will, thanks for the support. for those with the axel-back/cat-back only attitude i dont have the what $400 for an axel-back (unless you want to buy it for me), and i sure as hell aint going to spend almost $700 for a cat-back, ill take my chances with a custom built exhaust (but thats anohter thread).

jfaneselle- im not putting on a new muffler im "straight piping" a new axle-back.

mr1der- how can you compare this to cutting springs???

[NewToVersa]

What they are saying is that, youre doing what a poor a$$ 16 yo kid do. Some cheap a** mods that dont do anything but annoy other peoples.

[Ever Victorious]

Well, after just telling us you're putting in a straight pipe to replace your muffler, fairly easily.

Cutting springs to lower a car is not only cheap, it's dangerous and in most places, illegal (because it's dangerous). Replacement lowering springs are correctly designed to compensate for the lowering in height. There will be no odd bouncing, and no significant chance that the spring will snap or shatter, which DOES occur with regularity on cut springs.

Had you been going for a replacement muffler, it would have at least made some sense.. but you REALLY want to check Oregon Vehicle Code statute 815.250 and related statutes. I know here in WA it is illegal to remove your muffler (and your resonator does NOT count as a muffler for legal purposes), it's very VERY likely that Oregon is the same way.

I wasn't going to chime in when you first said you were going to get your exhaust done because hey, I've been there.. I wanted an exhaust on a vehicle everyone though I was insane for wanting one one. But the difference is the one I wanted to put on was street legal, and what you're describing does not sound like it is... and there is NO way I can advocate that, even under the guise of "do what you want, it's your car".

[NewToVersa]

Some poelple like loud exhaust and some like loud music. Both just plain stupid, immature things to do.

[Ever Victorious]

You've made your opinion clear, no need to get insulting.

[NewToVersa]

My bad, sorry

[NewToVersa]

Was expecting a reply from the op

[Mr1der]

are you having a new muffler welded on?

if so, disregard my statement about comparing it to cutting springs.

[fastlyfe]

some people are afraid of what they do not understand: UFO's, hearing your music over the car next to you at a stop light, and yes redline shifts from your versa with intake and cat back exhaust. I did it. custom 2.25 pipe and I use the silencer when I am with my family or going to work. Ifstupid=i can not relate then thats ok. its sounds good, but to loud with out silencer and remember when asking advice consider the source

[NOreasonY]

I say get some sort of sport muffler if u can just becasue if it is illegal...its not worth the hassle of dealing with it when it comes time for inspection...i personally am not gona pay 3-400 bucks for an axelback.. which is mearly a replacement muffler with a nice tip anyway. but considering you want to get it all welded in (or thats whati gathered from ur org post) its gonna suck if u have to take it back in to get a muffler welded in when the time comes. plus u can get nice mufflers form a lot of respectable companies for ~50-75$. just my thoughts.

[jfanaselle]

I agree. A decent magnaflow or similar muffler will only set you back $50 or $60 and will sound almost the same as having no muffler at all, but smoother. This would be the best route. As has already been mentioned, if you get pulled over for it or once the time comes to have the car smogged, you'll be spending over $100 to have someone cut the pipe and weld it in place, plus the price of the ticket if you get pulled over. Some states will just impound your car on the spot. It'll only cost a few dollars more to have them put one on the pipe when they're welding it all up.

[fastlyfe]

tanabe has certified my muffler under 98db its just the muffler wit the custom work done. it is all street and smog legal. I used to live in cali so i understand wanting to get a true bolt on system but in arizona cops are laid back they just smile and waive.

[nissantech06]

If you are going to straight-pipe it, you will lose a lot of torque and maybe even burn your valves from little exhaust scavenging. That's where a full exhaust comes in (whether cat-back or custom).

I went to UTI with a guy who had a 2.0DOHC Neon who had a straight pipe and his car started burning oil badly...related? Maybe not.

Do what makes you happy, man! Just giving you advice to save your new car!

[Great White Versa]

I can understand how people who have CAI and/or a free-flow exhaust would begin burning oil sooner than those who do not, but I can't see it being a direct result of the modifications. It seems that it would be a direct result of that driver's tendency to let the engine rev too high too often.

Also, how would a free-flow exhaust reduce the power output by the engine?

[blindsnyper]

i had it done a few days ago and i love the sound of it, i like it better the tanable axel-back and the stillen axel-back that i listened to on youtube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T1ezEDucD-Uh ... RD46riWoVw

If you are going to straight-pipe it, you will lose a lot of torque and maybe even burn your valves from little exhaust scavenging. That's where a full exhaust comes in (whether cat-back or custom).

i didnt stright pipe the whole exhaust i just had the muffler cut out and "straight pipe" that section maybe the last 18 inches.

[nissantech06]

I can understand how people who have CAI and/or a free-flow exhaust would begin burning oil sooner than those who do not, but I can't see it being a direct result of the modifications. It seems that it would be a direct result of that driver's tendency to let the engine rev too high too often.

Also, how would a free-flow exhaust reduce the power output by the engine?

Not necessarily JUST a free-flow but also using too big of piping. Your exhaust needs a certain amount of backpressure to promote scavenging...if you have too little, the hot exhaust gasses will stay in your heads and create excessive heat.