EX finally gets a 3.7!

[jaeger33]

Just saw that the 2013 EX gets the 3.7L -- finally! There does not appear to be any other changes from 2012 other than the engine upgrade.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/tags/infiniti-ex37/

[XIS]

Finally. I am jealous.

[AWGD8]

I already mentioned that on my previous post . It was told by my sale person and told me to keep it secret

ex37-3-7liters-7-speed-coming-to-usa-t553104.html

At least we know it is confirmed!

[beteez]

How about giving us the diesel instead

[DDS]

I guess most EX fans will see the 327 as a major change. I see it as nothingness because IMO it had enough power as it was. What will change is the mpg. I was hoping for new paint/leather combinations or perhaps better option packages. Like not being required to buy the touring package just to get the (very common) entry exit assist. The only colors available with the wheat interior is black, white or red. What is so prohibitive about ordering a sliver luxury car with any leather interior of choice? Certainly other car companies see no reason. Or why do I have to endure (what IMO are) very unattractive (and unsafe) 19" wheels just to get the entry exit assist? All most all other luxury cars offer those combinations. It seems to me that Infinity treats it's EX like a redheaded step child. Arguably the most stylish car in it's portfolio, they seemingly have little desire to make it as marketable as it could be.

[XIS]

I do agree it could be marketed MUCH better and I also agree that it is right there at the top of a very stylish portfolio all around. I also agree that we have plenty of power...

BUT - after driving a G37 sedan and not being inspired by the design or the basic interior, I just LOVED that 3.7. It just takes wonderful another step higher.

[jaeger33]

I’m really excited about the 3.7 since it gives me a reason to replace my 08 with a 13. I had an 2012 on order since I was going to give my 08 to my sister who was without a car. But, plans changed and she won’t need it until early next year, so I cancelled the order.

I wasn’t all that excited about replacing my ‘08 with a ‘12 since the only big difference was the 7-speed transmission. But, a bump in power makes replacing the ‘08 a lot more appealing.

Plus, my EX shares the garage with my partner’s ‘09 G37, and she continually reminds me that her car has the horsepower edge (although I think it’s indisputable that my EX has the upper hand in looks and versatility!).

[parkstr8r]

I'm a little bummed - after trading my 2011 G37S coupe for my 1 month old 2012 EX35 - I loved the 3.7. And the G37S exhaust would probably been made to fit. And 20+hp...But the G coupe is actually about 100 lbs heavier...so in the end...

No biggie

Here's another article.


http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/08/2013 ... continued/

-s-

[AWGD8]

The 3.7 L engine will give the EX35 more highend power and a 6 sec or less 0-60.
I know who cares right? But after driving a G37 '09, '10 and '11 models , the power is addictive. The only reason I like the EX35 is I feel more relax driving it. It just way better than the G37 when it comes to comfort.

[meanie]

The 3.7 L engine will give the EX35 more highend power and a 6 sec or less 0-60.
I know who cares right? But after driving a G37 '09, '10 and '11 models , the power is addictive. The only reason I like the EX35 is I feel more relax driving it. It just way better than the G37 when it comes to comfort.

Coming from a G I missed the power at first, but less so now. Although I still miss the more immediate throttle response, I am hoping adding an R2C intake will improve that. I wonder whether the gas mileage will change. My xS G sedan got slightly better mileage at close to the same weight, but is a much more slippery car. Infiniti makes some baffling decisions and taking so long to port the 3.7 over to the EX and FX is one of them. Building a barebones, underpowered G25 is another. I agree the EX is a much more comfortable car. A little more rear leg room would be nice though.

[XIS]

The 3.7 L engine will give the EX35 more highend power and a 6 sec or less 0-60.
I know who cares right? But after driving a G37 '09, '10 and '11 models , the power is addictive. The only reason I like the EX35 is I feel more relax driving it. It just way better than the G37 when it comes to comfort.

Well, if you drive a EX35 RWD, you are already below that 6 second mark. I wonder what an EX37 RWD would do? Probably low-mid 5's? Nice.

[box_of_lego]

I'm happy because for another year my EX35 is not "outdated" .. the 2013 will have larger tires , a different "37" on the tag but
I'm still current .... gotta love Infinity for sticking with good lines

yeah yeah more horsepower would be good .. but I'd settle for a few liters less per 100 km !

[EXceptional]

I'm happy because for another year, my EX35 is not "outdated"

Agree... 5 Years and no real significant Body changes.

My 2008 is paid for... which suits me just fine.

My Neighbor 2 Houses over, just bought a White 2008 EX35

[EX-KAT-35]

I'm happy because for another year, my EX35 is not "outdated"

... ...
My Neighbor 2 Houses over, just bought a White 2008 EX35

We should now be morphing into the EX35/EX37 Forum or is it EX35/37... decisions.

...Well... are ya gonna drop by and introduce urself and the site as an extra set of brains on their new purchace?... and have they introduced themselves on here yet?

[XIS]

Agree... 5 Years and no real significant Body changes.

My 2008 is paid for... which suits me just fine.

My Neighbor 2 Houses over, just bought a White 2008 EX35

At least they have good taste!

[Mandragora]

I think marketing, the few and far between upgrades, and the EX's weak sales are all tied together. From the Autoblog review:

Sadly, this may be a model crippled by marketing run amok. With zero off-road capability and deeply limited human and cargo capability, the truth is that the EX35 is merely a very nice G hatchback. Tired wisdom tells us Americans simply don't get luxury hatches, and Infiniti may have attempted to skirt that fact by branding the five-door as outside of the G line. Buyers aren't so easily fooled, however. Last month [March 2012], Nissan sold just 378 EX units, down from 603 in March 2011. In fact, the company only sold 6,030 EX models in all of 2011, putting it at the very bottom of the Infiniti sales barrel by a wide margin. Even the company's second-worst selling model, the FX, bested the EX by 3,909 units last year.

Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/16/2012 ... 35-review/

The cramped backseat/cargo was nearly a deal-breaker for me, but the truth is, I only really want it a few times a year, and the rest of the time, this car is absolutely perfect for me.

[EX-KAT-35]

With a shorter wheelbase than the G coupe and and extra set of 2 doors I just dont get it.
GREED might be a factor - trying to keep the FX market under their thumb.
Looking at a car magazine I saw laying around both the EX and the FX have the same interior passenger volume of 107.1 cu.ft. or is the FX actually 102.5 from my internet search??? Shameful

PURPOSEFULLY stunting the natural length and interior space of the EX to slot under the FX instead of increasing the interior space of the FX is a marketing and engineering decision that is almost unforgivable by Infiniti.

In fact the exhaust of the EX is literally shorter than the G coupe on whose floorplan the vehicle is based.

Can u imagine the rear legroom and not to mention the manufacturing logistical EASE of swapping parts with the G and an EX of equal wheelbase length. That part sharing could have lead to a reduction in required warehouse space for different parts for exhaust and drivetrain which could be passed on to the end purchaser.
Ehhhhhh what do I know I'm just some girl applying logical thinking... PS: forgot to add "End Rant Against Infiniti"

[XIS]

I love the idea of being able to swap parts, but I wouldn't want it too much bigger back there. Maybe an inch or three max, but I also like it like it is.
I sit up front in a wonderful driver's seat. Sometimes, the ole' lady or one of the kids is in the passenger seat. Rarely is anyone in the back, but if there is someone back there, they are kids / young teens and they don't even notice they are cramped.

I DONT want an FX. I LOVE a nice, sporty, powerful and beautiful luxury hatch and there is nothing out there that compares to the EX. Too bad Infiniti failed on marketing it....but there is still time.

[parkstr8r]

I have both 2012 FX35 and EX35 - and I like them both for different reasons. Same basic engine - different tune and exhaust.

FX (from site) 3.5-liter (3,498 cc) 24-valve V6, aluminum-alloy block and heads, Double overhead camshaft (DOHC), 4 valves per cylinder with microfinished camshafts. Steel intake and exhaust valves. Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control System (CVTCS) optimizes opening of intake and exhaust valves.

EX (from site) 3.5-liter (3,498cc) 24-valve V6, aluminum-alloy block and heads. Low-friction molybdenum-coated pistons, Double overhead camshaft (DOHC), 4 valves per cylinder with microfinished camshafts. Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control System (CVTCS) optimizes opening of intake and exhaust valves

But we have - "High-flow tuned induction system"

6HP difference - 9 torque. FX curb - 412, EX curb - 3782

What I wish were different is not about size- but I wish it had:

Sport Seats - no practical replacement so i'll just deal as these are nice
More Aggressive nose - nothing i can do - but i can tint the headlights lightly and then cut out around the actual lights
More aggressive looking wheels - i can fix that
I Miss the "phone" button on the nav instead of our STATUS - yeah, not much I can do there
A bigger sway bar in the rear - I already put on the GT Spec strut brace - i guess with $$ i can just buy a GT spec and have it customized.
Exhaust sound - no biggie, just put on a G37S muffler and it meets me 1/2 way.

But hey - I'm a guy and i like guy things. I love the "manly" look of our FX - but prefer the size and maneuverability of the EX in everyday driving.

Its funny tho - that with the EX Infiniti did not market it. Yet - they sell out of everyone they have. And the used ones are snatched up quickly, too.

After 45 cars - i have come to know that for me - sporty, realiable, decent HP and handling, and great service mean more to me than some other qualities. And no car...no matter the $$ - is perfect.

[audtatious]

VQ37 has been in the European EX models since 2009. VQ35 is on the way out so it makes sense for Nissan/Infiniti to move all 3.5 models to the 3.7.

[meanie]

I just went on a college tour with my wife and 17 year old daughter. I would have preferred to take the EX but she insisted the backseat was too small for her to sit in comfortably over several days of driving. She is a 5'2", 113 lb coxswain (ie. she is used to sitting in the little space at the stern of crew boats). As a result we had to take my wife's 7 year old Highlander. The 19 inch spread between the OEM crossbars wouldn't have allowed us to put our Thule box on top and the back wouldn't have been big enough for our luggage anyway. That same narrow bar spread results in my kayaks looking like they will get blown off the roof. The aftermarket hitch I put on frequently gives me a clunk when I go over bumps (I think due to the exhaust banging against it), eventhough it is the only hitch available that is made for the car. No OEM hitch is available and in fact the manual says you should not tow with this car. Yet it is marketed as a CUV. For those who simply like the lovely styling and excellent driving dynamics, with maybe occasional 2 person forays with the back seats folded down, this may be fine and a non issue. However, all of these problems could have been easily been addressed if Infiniti had left in the 5 inches chopped from the G platform (giving it more back seat room and rear storage plus a longer roof line for the bars) and provided real utility like adjustable bars and an available OEM hitch. I love to drive this car almost as much as I did my G37xS, and putting in the 3.7 engine will just improve that experience for folks, but it is the utility part of the equation that is sorely lacking and needs to be addressed. Otherwise this will remain a niche player in a segment dominated by the X3, Q5 and RDX. Given what I know now I am not sure I would have made this purchase last January.

[DDS]

The EX has great proportions. Adding 5" to the length of the car in any manner would ruin it completely. Even 1" would be noticeable 5" would transform it from beautiful to ugly. And. I have read that is exactly why the car has so little rear leg room - because the designers chose beauty over rear seat comfort. Infinity almost always makes decisions based on fad or style, and rarely on ergonomics. Infinity is a car company for the young. That is a good thing sometimes because it leads to designs like the EX, but sometimes a bad thing - if you don't appreciate pie plate wheels with rubber band tires.

[parkstr8r]

Plus -keep in mind - Infiniti/Nissan is a Japanese company. And most cars are designed forthe Japanese, who are shorter in stature in general. US - 5' 10" vs Japan - 5' 7".

Infiniti builds specific models for us(U.S.) and countries like the UAE- such as JX, QX and FX. We are a bigger people. The EX was designed for Japan under Nissan as the Skyline Crossover.

I wish we as Americans would keep a more internationl mind set.

-s-

http://www2.nissan.co.jp/SKYLINECROSSOV ... t000000234

[meanie]

The EX has great proportions. Adding 5" to the length of the car in any manner would ruin it completely. Even 1" would be noticeable 5" would transform it from beautiful to ugly. And. I have read that is exactly why the car has so little rear leg room - because the designers chose beauty over rear seat comfort. Infinity almost always makes decisions based on fad or style, and rarely on ergonomics. Infinity is a car company for the young. That is a good thing sometimes because it leads to designs like the EX, but sometimes a bad thing - if you don't appreciate pie plate wheels with rubber band tires.

Of course ones appreciation of styling is subjective, but I disagree that lengthening the EX would ruin it completely. It would change it though. The JX is in my opinion a really attractive vehicle, and it is 14 inches longer than the EX. I think a few extra inches of length could make it a little sleeker, particularly around the rear haunches. One thing Infiniti does well is come up with attractive designs and I have confidence the EX could have kept the G's length and been every bit, if not more, attractive. The car's sales sound so poor that unless it sells much better in other markets I can't see Infiniti continuing to make this car much longer, and it is unlikely putting in the 3.7 will rescue it. Now that luxury CUVs are a "hot market" (which was not the case a few years ago), Infiniti may want a more competitive vehicle. They will need to address the EX's achilles heel, space, in order to get there.