Ether into air intake?

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Hmmm... what if you rigged a setup where at the push of a button you could inject ether directly into your air intake? Would it function the same as NOS and give you a boost of speed, or would it just burn up and make the engine super hot? Perhaps you would die in a glorious fireball? Do people do this?

When I'm bored I think of weird stuff... I should be asleep.



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Probably very dumb. Nitrious helps to burn gas very fast, Ether does not.

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I just found this. I guess some industrial diesel engines already have this type of thing, but for cold starts only. But then why doesn't nitrous damage the rings & seals?

http://www.tpub.com/content/co...9.htm

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Ginsu wrote:I just found this. I guess some industrial diesel engines already have this type of thing, but for cold starts only. But then why doesn't nitrous damage the rings & seals?

http://www.tpub.com/content/co...9.htm
With enough Nitrous it will damage everything. In small enough amounts as long as there is the right amount of fuel then its just like using normal air.

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sounds like youre trying to start a meth lab on wheels... lol...

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has anyone put nitrous in their cars yet???? id like to know. not to make fun of, just to check.

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Would there really be that much benefit to risk the engine grenading?

Nitrous functions to increase the amount of air to burn in combustion. When released into the combustion chamber it cools he air, increasing density. It's like how a trubo can make more power when it's colder out. Denser, colder air has more molecules than warm air. The Nitrous cools the air, increasing it's density, thus allowing the engine to add more fuel and create a bigger boom, hence more power. Too big a boom and you can say bye bye to an engine.

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Ginsu wrote:I just found this. I guess some industrial diesel engines already have this type of thing, but for cold starts only. But then why doesn't nitrous damage the rings & seals?

http://www.tpub.com/content/co...9.htm
Diesels mainly use glow plugs nowadays. You have to remember, diesel engines use a different kind of Internal Combustion. Instead of electrical ignition like normal engines do with spark plugs, diesels use compression ignition. They compress the air/fuel mixture to the point of detenation.

I can only imagine that Ether would either do nothing, gum up your engine somehow or blow it up.

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Red Devil wrote:Nitrous functions to increase the amount of air to burn in combustion. When released into the combustion chamber it cools he air, increasing density.
Uh... not quite. Nitrous oxide is injected as an oxidizing agent and boost the amount of oxygen available - not to "cool' the air. In essence, nitrous oxide increases the % of oxygen in the air.

A turbocharger or a supercharger compresses the air (oxygen % remains the same).

Injecting dimethyl ether into a gasoline engine is just... dumb. In diesel applications, DME is intended to replace diesel fuel.

Would you inject diesel into a gasoline engine and expect a power boost? Or even inject more gasoline than appropriate?

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chipping your engine injects more fuel than is appropriate

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Ginsu wrote:chipping your engine injects more fuel than is appropriate
If the chips software is crap, yes. As an general description of chipping, wrong.

Point of chipping is to replace factory software with one that is more refined or worked over to optimize the fuel mixture to wring out every bit of power you could possibly get. The fuel maps usually have higher definition (more data parameters) than stock... like a graph curve described by more dots than fewer dots (where the curve is an approximation based on those dots).

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Ginsu wrote:Hmmm... what if you rigged a setup where at the push of a button you could inject ether directly into your air intake?
My first car was a 1946 Willys Jeep that had a lot of trouble starting in old weather. I used to use a can of ether to help.

At one point my dad and me pulled the engine for a rebuild. One of the pistons was melted along the side; probably from the ether. What was surprising is that you couldn't tell it from the way the engine ran....

Ron


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