http://www.msnbc.com/news/921021.asp?0cv=CB20
Always seen the discussions about reformulated gasoline and how people felt about ethanol
This article says that they will be mandating the use of ethanol in gasoline to reduce dependencey on foreign oil
Wonder what it will do to my 10 year old injectors
Just an FYI
Ethanol article
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Ethanol per se is not the problem, it is the water it may pick up from the blending point to your tank.
The problem is one of using corn to raise farm incomes [added subsidy] and that the BTU input to farming is twice the BTU output of the corn derived Ethanol..........very energy wasteful since the corn needs fertilizers made from coal/oil and most farm equipment runs on oil.........they completely forget to add this to the equation. Watch the price of corn flakes, wiskey, and corn products rise as more is diverted to fuel.
You must understand that a side plan at least in California is to make sure that old cars are not on the road because even 90-95 cars pollute twice as much as 96 cars and 2000 cars are better still.Anything that would make it uneconomical to repair a 90-95 car would be a God send, as far a pollution totals are concerned.
It is not intentional just a side benefit.
Just like in Japan where inspection and rehabilitation legislation makes the > than 60k car a rarity to promote employment in the automobile industry.........the US would collapse if 15,000,000 new cars/trucks were not sold each year.........$40 Billion a year in new vehicle sales.
It is not a very complicated process to remove the ethanol from gasohol but then you would lose the 2-3 octane points.
The problem is one of using corn to raise farm incomes [added subsidy] and that the BTU input to farming is twice the BTU output of the corn derived Ethanol..........very energy wasteful since the corn needs fertilizers made from coal/oil and most farm equipment runs on oil.........they completely forget to add this to the equation. Watch the price of corn flakes, wiskey, and corn products rise as more is diverted to fuel.
You must understand that a side plan at least in California is to make sure that old cars are not on the road because even 90-95 cars pollute twice as much as 96 cars and 2000 cars are better still.Anything that would make it uneconomical to repair a 90-95 car would be a God send, as far a pollution totals are concerned.
It is not intentional just a side benefit.
Just like in Japan where inspection and rehabilitation legislation makes the > than 60k car a rarity to promote employment in the automobile industry.........the US would collapse if 15,000,000 new cars/trucks were not sold each year.........$40 Billion a year in new vehicle sales.
It is not a very complicated process to remove the ethanol from gasohol but then you would lose the 2-3 octane points.
Good point about the energy used to create the ethanol
I always wondered how much energy used and polutants were generated to create a lower poluting car. In a perfect world the 93 J30 ould then be recycled but we all know that does not happen. Now you have the polution and energy use to create the new car, the polution from the new car and the polution from the old car.
I guess the proper way to do it is to have a set life span for any car and then require it to be recycled at that end.
I guess the most efficient we get here is that an old american clunker is probably off the raod when they buy the old J.
I have been to Japan and did notice that most cars looked really new except for the farm vehicles.
What do they do with the >60K mile cars? send them to 3rd world countries?
I always wondered how much energy used and polutants were generated to create a lower poluting car. In a perfect world the 93 J30 ould then be recycled but we all know that does not happen. Now you have the polution and energy use to create the new car, the polution from the new car and the polution from the old car.
I guess the proper way to do it is to have a set life span for any car and then require it to be recycled at that end.
I guess the most efficient we get here is that an old american clunker is probably off the raod when they buy the old J.
I have been to Japan and did notice that most cars looked really new except for the farm vehicles.
What do they do with the >60K mile cars? send them to 3rd world countries?
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Luckily to produce enough corn to turn into enough gasoline for 100% independence. Evey acre of the US would have to be planted in Corn, Central Park and every city park and National and State park would need to be plowed over and cultivated.EVERY lawn growing corn and we would still have to import oil for the fertilizers and insecticides.
The midwesterners are scared we will begin to grow rice again in the south. After all Japanese cars need their Sake.
And we complain about France subsidizing its farmers.
Just a massive boondoggle...............nuclear power could easily destroy enough water [temporarily] to make all the Hydrogen we need forever
The midwesterners are scared we will begin to grow rice again in the south. After all Japanese cars need their Sake.
And we complain about France subsidizing its farmers.
Just a massive boondoggle...............nuclear power could easily destroy enough water [temporarily] to make all the Hydrogen we need forever
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I am not too excited about driving around on a tank of Hydrogen. I don't want to have to fight for the plug, at the mall. And, I don't want to smell diesel fuel burning. I think I'll stick to the gasoline internal combustion engine, for now. From start to finish, in my opinion, it is the most efficient, reliable, easy to maintain, and operate, and cost effective transportation out there (motorized, anyway).