ESFLOW - New Nissan Electric Sports Car

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"On the paper the ESFLOW is capable to reach 0 to 100km/h in just 5sec (just two more than the 2011 GT-R) and should offer a 240km range on a single charge"


http://www.wareground.com/articles/niss ... ctric_370z


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the car looks good

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turbonxsx wrote:the car looks good
We are not looking at the same picture then...

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Looks like a Crossfire with boomarang'd lights and a Mazda front end thing going on.....

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It doesn't look like a Prius at least. The important thing is the paradigm is shifting to the realization that EVs won't sell based on kookiness or eco-guilt, they are going to need to style them and they are going to have to be user friendly with decent range. I pulled off the highway yesterday when I saw a new sign. "EV stand" They just finished installing high amp quick chargers that will cut charge times to minutes, not hours. Change is coming and it's long overdue.

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The technology is coming stateside too.
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/105 ... t-chargers
Level 3 charging is capable of fast-charging the 2011 Nissan LEAF’s 24 kilowatt-hour battery pack from empty to 80% full in around 20 minutes.

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Dattebayo wrote:
turbonxsx wrote:the car looks good
We are not looking at the same picture then...
:spitout:

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We need to start a new company.

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I can see Walmart being all over this in the future.

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The problem with lvl 3 charging stations is it degrades the battery prematurely. They haven't done enough testing to be sure by how much... but it is there. That and they are f*** expensive.

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See how quickly EVs become discussion worthy once the legitimate complaint of convenience is addressed? The real problem is carmakers in America still view EVs as a threat to their business, not a new market segment to exploit. Our infrastructure is in shambles and that doesn't look to be improving any time soon. The problem with EVs has less to do with the vehicle and more to do with the lack of support. I hope this changes because the world is moving while America sits.

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themadscientist wrote:See how quickly EVs become discussion worthy once the legitimate complaint of convenience is addressed? The real problem is carmakers in America still view EVs as a threat to their business, not a new market segment to exploit. Our infrastructure is in shambles and that doesn't look to be improving any time soon. The problem with EVs has less to do with the vehicle and more to do with the lack of support. I hope this changes because the world is moving while America sits.
I agree with above statement..

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I kind of like the styling. It reminds me a little of the Cheetah.
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I see Datsun in the back and 90s Chrysler concept car in the front.

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Ace2cool wrote:Looks like a Crossfire with boomarang'd lights and a Mazda front end thing going on.....
:werd:

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themadscientist wrote:See how quickly EVs become discussion worthy once the legitimate complaint of convenience is addressed? The real problem is carmakers in America still view EVs as a threat to their business, not a new market segment to exploit. Our infrastructure is in shambles and that doesn't look to be improving any time soon. The problem with EVs has less to do with the vehicle and more to do with the lack of support. I hope this changes because the world is moving while America sits.
While I don't disagree, recharging is only HALF the convenience factor. The other is the battery itself. Having to stop every 100 miles under the most ideal conditions sucks regardless of how convenient the act of recharging itself is made. We need better batteries or more efficient motors. Or, preferably, a combination of the two. Combine those with rapid charging stations and EVs will be a lot more appealing. And if we can't improve batteries, we desperately need to find some other means of storing energy that can easily and efficiently be converted to electricity onboard the car.

It always comes back to the tradeoff:
Gasoline has fantastic energy density but our method of using it is terribly inefficient.
Batteries have abysmal energy density but our method of using it is very efficient.

We need both those strengths and neither of the weaknesses. We'll find it eventually, I'm sure, but right now it's nowhere in sight.

It's not just about how fast the fillup is; it's about how far you go BETWEEN fillups. If EVs are going to be a real option in the automotive world, they have to be able to do more than just drive you to work and back once or twice before needing a charge again. We need 200+ or 300+ miles on a charge, and we need that to be consistent, not just under ideal conditions.

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themadscientist wrote:It doesn't look like a Prius at least. The important thing is the paradigm is shifting to the realization that EVs won't sell based on kookiness or eco-guilt, they are going to need to style them and they are going to have to be user friendly with decent range. I pulled off the highway yesterday when I saw a new sign. "EV stand" They just finished installing high amp quick chargers that will cut charge times to minutes, not hours. Change is coming and it's long overdue.

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They need to get off of this whole "clean" thing for EV's.

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In WV you have 2 choices. Run your car off gas or coal...

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^^Agreed.

While I do concede that it is much more "clean" and efficient to generate that electricity than it is to burn gasoline, EVs are, in no way, a complete solution.

Personally, I think that we should look into implementing more EVs in some areas (such as cities) and looking into the introduction of alternative fuels elsewhere. I believe that by offering a variety of options in regards to fuel, we will be best suited to adapt to any changes that must be made.

If we can ever get some reasonable efficiency out of hydrogen and can come up with a good way of obtaining it, that's where the future is really at. I mean, seriously, it's the most abundant element in the universe and there are virtually no negative byproducts that result from burning it. Sign me up please.


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