Engines coming soon. Need some clutch purchasing Help.

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So my enigne will be in, in about 2 weeks so i'm in the process of getting all the finishing touches. I just bought one of these bad boys http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...76466 and i plan on getting my stock catback modified to work with it. Im also hopefully going to be using the stock smic set-up. So you see where im going with this. I want it to be nice and stock so it will be reliable as possible. So now it comes to clutch kits. I know the KA clutch/ pressure plate works with light modification to the ca flywheel but i was wondering if one of these two clutch kits would be able to hold my application.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemh ... rs...photo


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Couple things--

Using a stock catback with a 3" downpipe is worse than using a stock downpipe/catback. Why not just get a catback? It won't make it "unreliable" lol. EDIT: I am an idiot. A CA18DE clutch is too small and won't work.
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c-rad wrote:Using a stock catback with a 3" downpipe is worse than using a stock downpipe/catback.
Why do you say that? It will be a catless system. Just using the stock 2.25" piping from where ever that 3" pipe ends. I think it would sound pretty good actually. Not to loud but you will still be able to hear the exhuast.
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driftin8nez wrote:Why do you say that? It will be a catless system. Just using the stock 2.25" piping from where ever that 3" pipe ends. I think it would sound pretty good actually. Not to loud but you will still be able to hear the exhuast.

Also the oem exedy or seco are no good?
The 3" to 2.25" transition is pretty steep. It would be like trying to blow through a coffee straw.

EDIT: I am an idiot. CA18DE clutch is too small.
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No, that's for the GA16 sohc motor.

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driftin8nez wrote:Ok let me see if i can find it. The one for the ca18de should hold right? And i wont have to mod the flywheel. Sounds good to me.
Hold up--- My mistake- CA18DE clutch is too small. Just get a KA24 clutch. Removing the alignment pin from the flywheel takes about 30 seconds.

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c-rad wrote: Hold up--- My mistake- CA18DE clutch is too small. Just get a KA24 clutch. Removing the alignment pin from the flywheel takes about 30 seconds.
lol.. I just found the right one to.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...46603So just go ahead and buy the ka24de clutch kit. I think i'll go exedy. I should be able to hold seeing as the stock torque on the ca18det and ka24de are about the same.

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I'm thinking maybe i should go with this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...photo just in case i decide to raise the boost. With the proper supporting mods of course.

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I don't think you should do anything, just get a bikeR1 FTW

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for turbo cars you want a nice free flowing exhaust and if you put in a 3" to 2.25" would really hurt performance. go with a 3" all the way and get the v8 sound i have

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Ya i'll probably wind up going with a full 3". Also anyone see any problems with going with the xtd stage 2 clutch. I've read about them on this forum and they didn't get to many bad reviews.

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i have a 3inch dp to a 2.5 inch exhaust..is that hurting it much? but anyways go for a higher load clutch, you will most likely up the boost or do soemthing to give you more power in the future

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just bought an xtd stage 2. Hope all goes well.

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while youre in there, you can get a jun 5.X kg flywheel from rare trick http://www.raretrick.com/index...=6004

$350 + shipping, ends up being around $380 shipped

it might take a bit for you to get it, as they will probably have to wait for their next shipment after your order for them to ship it to you (expect a month so you wont be dissapointed)

them and a store in the UK are the only ones weve found that sell new light flywheels for the CA

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tyrannix wrote:while youre in there, you can get a jun 5.X kg flywheel from rare trick http://www.raretrick.com/index...=6004

$350 + shipping, ends up being around $380 shipped

it might take a bit for you to get it, as they will probably have to wait for their next shipment after your order for them to ship it to you (expect a month so you wont be dissapointed)

them and a store in the UK are the only ones weve found that sell new light flywheels for the CA

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Is there anyway i can get a couple lbs. shaved off the stock flywheel?

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XTD? I didnt think kade clutches work, only the single cam ka.

Just wanted to see what kinda clutches everyone is using and the boost, turbo they are running. I am weary of getting a SPEC clutch, but dont know another company that makes one for a good price for the CA.

I am currently using a kae clutch, so the flywheel mod is already done.

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the single cam and dual cam clutches are exactly the same. and for most applications, a stock clutch is fine, ive seen ppl run a stock organic disk with uprated presure plate run 400hp.

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you can, but the stocker is what? 25 lbs (i think thats what it is) 5.4 kg = ~12 lbs

but yeah, any reputible machine shop should be able to lighten a stock one for you, youll only be able to get a few lbs of material off tho (from my research, i was going to do it on the flywheel for my other engine, but it doesnt really look worth it)

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driftin8nez wrote:Is there anyway i can get a couple lbs. shaved off the stock flywheel?

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If you plan on going cheap dont do the swap at all. Get what its suppose to have. Ka clutch and remove pin. GET A 3 in. CATBACK. Let it breath right.

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The E and DE clutch is the same? I know the flywheels are, not the clutch.

Proof?

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proof? they use the same size disk, 225mm, and the presure plate is the same, at jwt we offer an uprated pp with 750kg clamping force and it will bolt up to either a single cam or dual cam KA, trust me, they are the same.

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Dont Sr clutches work on KADE? thats why people buy Daikin(exedy) clutches for the DOHC.

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Kouks wrote:Dont Sr clutches work on KADE? thats why people buy Daikin(exedy) clutches for the DOHC.
No, the SR's can use a Maxima clutch. And yes, the KA24E and KA24DE clutches are the same. Look up a centerforce dual friction. It will say 89-98 240SX. Or it will break it up into 3 parts- 89-90, 91-94, and 95-98. But they all have the same part number.

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1via wrote:If you plan on going cheap dont do the swap at all. Get what its suppose to have. Ka clutch and remove pin. GET A 3 in. CATBACK. Let it breath right.
Are you serious? Go back to the hole you came out of troll.
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Just to Sum everything up:

The best Clutch option for a CA18DET is a Clutch for the KA24.

The E and DE clutches are exactly the same.

You can Get your Stock CA lightened up a bit

Apparently everyone should get a 3" exhaust when doing a CA swap.

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im running a rps kade clutch now. got it from splparts.fit fine.i also got 3 pounds shaved of my flywheel,coudnt tell the any diff.so its not worth it to me.going to get a jun flywheel after xmas.

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For the clutch, a Heavy duty organic sprung center Exedy/Daikin will do the job well. If you are into drifting, then getting a button clutch to pop the wheelspin into action is good, but it's not real easy to drive in traffic, and if friends (or girls) drive the car, they'll have trouble driving it unless they are car fiends like most of us here.

We don't need to dig into the KA spares box here in Australia, but it's good to know they are a close match.

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ACT makes a Xtreme Street Clutch with uprated pressure plate, (holding 333tq) performance organic disk for the ka, 409 from enjuku. Looks like a streetable clutch.

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dattodude wrote:For the clutch, a Heavy duty organic sprung center Exedy/Daikin will do the job well. If you are into drifting, then getting a button clutch to pop the wheelspin into action is good, but it's not real easy to drive in traffic, and if friends (or girls) drive the car, they'll have trouble driving it unless they are car fiends like most of us here.

We don't need to dig into the KA spares box here in Australia, but it's good to know they are a close match.

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Kouks wrote:ACT makes a Xtreme Street Clutch with uprated pressure plate, (holding 333tq) performance organic disk for the ka, 409 from enjuku. Looks like a streetable clutch.
I already bought an XTD Stage 2 clutch that holds about 260 torque for 141.00 shipped with pp/ t/o bearing/ pilot/ and align tool. Hope all goes well. But those clutches are good to know about.


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