Engine Undercover Removal ?

[Sonofasailor]

I recently serviced our 07 V and found that the engine undercover was in the way when trying to replace oil filter. There are 2 plastic pins on each side holding the cover in place. I tried prying on them a little bit however they did not move so I didnt force them. What's the secret?I have attached the page out of the service manual however it is somewhat vague. Any help is appreciated.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/ve...I.pdf]. If the inserted link doesnt work. The engine undercover is on page 14 in the front bumper section.

[Bubs daddy]

There's also some bolts, four or so. I took mine off almost two years ago.

[mightyversa]

Im sorry, but if you previously have read the "I've had enough (RANT WARNING!!!) thread, then you know I am about to eat you regarding what your trying to do, and I cant help it, but here goes: Man, if you cant remove a simple cover and dont have the ability to sum up a situation where the removal of fasteners are in play, please, go to Wal-Mart and get their "VERY EXPERIENCED" (yeah right) TLE's to do the oil change for you. Remember, lefty loosy righty tighty on the oil filter. Also, when the filter is HAND TIGHT (and assuming your not a muscle man) put another 1/4 turn on it, and dont forget to fill the oil filter with oil (if possible) and put some new oil on the filter seal before installation. DONT FORGET to check for the old seal on the filter seat on the engine. Oh, and if you need any help in doing this, my woman is offering her assistance along with my 2 year old son who already can take his Craftsman Tool Bench apart which includes about 20 realistic nuts and bolts.

BTW - If you just did the Service on you V yourself, please take it to a shop ASAP, dont wanna put others lives in danger you know. Also, oil goes in the engine, coolant goes in the rad first then resevoir, brake fluid in resevoir marked "BRAKE FLUID" and I think you can handle the rest. Good luck, I think you need it.

[BBISHOPPCM]

Wow!!

To remove the splash guard, those "pins" are very easy to remove. Simply pry out the center pin, and the whole retainer will come out with ease.

[hdtom1]

a sailor?

I recently serviced our 07 V and found that the engine undercover was in the way when trying to replace oil filter. There are 2 plastic pins on each side holding the cover in place. I tried prying on them a little bit however they did not move so I didnt force them. What's the secret?I have attached the page out of the service manual however it is somewhat vague. Any help is appreciated.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/ve...I.pdf]. If the inserted link doesnt work. The engine undercover is on page 14 in the front bumper section.

I recently serviced our 07 V and found that the engine undercover was in the way when trying to replace oil filter. There are 2 plastic pins on each side holding the cover in place. I tried prying on them a little bit however they did not move so I didnt force them. What's the secret?I have attached the page out of the service manual however it is somewhat vague. Any help is appreciated.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/ve...I.pdf]. If the inserted link doesnt work. The engine undercover is on page 14 in the front bumper section.

[marleyfan]

I cant help it, but here goes:

Actually you CAN help it. You CHOSE to rip on someone who, although he may not have mechanical knowledge or perhaps any experience working on a car, decided to try to do it on his own. Why would you choose to rip him apart like that? As I'm sure you are aware, cars are increasingly difficult to work on these days. Even a simple oil change can be difficult to achieve the way engine bays are designed. Sonofasailor tried to do it on his own and, rather than risk damaging something, ASKED for HELP. While you DID offer some help, at the same time you made him feel like an idiot for asking a question. As a teacher I find that response offensive. Nobody should be reluctant to ask for help of any kind simply because someone with more knowledge might respond in such a condescending way.

[frankoV]

ah, marleyfan . . . thanks.

I started . . . but quit. why bother?

are there no mods on this board that step in and say "whoa" to the slagging? or is NISMO a free-for-all? [/rant]

[VersaMG08]

Marley, thanks for backing him up. I believe some people with certain skills may take things too far and abuse their power, it's not necessary.

I'll say it, if you have nothing good to say about somebody or answer a specific question with positive feedback, then it's best not to barge in. It can cause a lot of commotion & drama around here and there is already enough of that. I hope to help you all out.

[mightyversa]

Modified by mightyversa at 11:06 PM 1/25/2009

[Samyo]

Not at all necessary to insult this guy for asking a question. Kudos for you my friend on your ability to change your oil properly and without a problem. Now, why are you going to condescend to him? Congratulations, you can change your oil, now give someone a hard time for asking how to remove a plastic cover. This forum exists for people to come and to discuss the Versa. You don't have to be rude. Quit trying to "eat" people for asking a question.

[Onyxblue]

BUT, I know I am smarter than some teachers I know, so maybe since I have no teaching experience I should become a teacher?

Too much modesty

[Samyo]

This is what happens when we quit calling them mechanics and start calling them technicians instead..

[VersaMG08]

Isn't that what a mechanic is called when they don't get down and dirty and tell others to do all the physical labor? Sorry, some people are too serious around here, just trying to lighten things up.

[CodeRed]

I'm gone for two weeks and hell goes down?

Seriously all they came in here was to find out how to remove the plastic pins there is no need to be a total D.I.C.K. about something. Maybe not everyone is as "experienced as you" in the automotive field.

And maybe for you it isn't so apparent that changing some light tbulbs on your car doesn't make it faster (you know who I'm talking to...)

UNLESS your helping someone out don't talk S*** or better yet just don't post at all. There are plenty of forums out there waiting on your attitude and this one isn't it.

Either help the OP out, don't post or GTFO!

[mightyversa]

This all goes to show how people support the Automotive Service Technicians. I see WAY to many people up here doing their own work, wrong most of the time, and they say that labour rates are to high!

I have no problems eating ANYONE out and I have the right to, and here's why:

I spent $15,000 to do a course that gives me apprenticeship in a trade. I have 7 years experience in the trade and have great mechanical abilities. I am not afraid to turn a nut and have the other abilities that make me an asset as an Automotive Service Tecnician. So, what do I think when I see some DIYer doing work to his/her vehicle, taking business away from the industry? I think thats NUTS. I can only imagine what all you other guys are in this life, and maybe you make more than $100,000 a year, I dont know, but in all honesty, if the DIYer had any respect for the trade, they would either go do it themselves or pay to get work done, escpecially when they dont know what they are doing.

I dont even work on my own vehicle, I pay to get work done on it, but some things I know wont be done right and I want to make sure it is, thats why I am doing my own modifications, as of regular brake work n the likes, I pay a Technician the money to do it cause I aint no backyard Mechanic, I am an Automotive Service Technician that has respect for the trade. But I guess most people would rather take the cheap way out than just do that, probably why our insurance rates are still high, along with Labour and parts. Oh well, you guys know everything about the trade (and very little about mechanics) so I will take your word for it.

[mightyversa]

In closing, I have been in a bad mood lately and found this thread to take my anger out on, it worked and am perfectly fine now, I wont post anything like this stuff again for the simple reason that it your vehicle and you guys can do what you want to it, but dont go crying to a technician because you screwed up, thats all, out.

[Johniboi]

^Not to start anything...BUT why is it that in every post you always brag about/mention how much money you make or spend?....nobody really cares.I mean all the dude asked was how to tke the freakin' cover off and you comin in here tlkin sh*t cause you in a bad mood? i mean REALLY?

seriosuly..peoples these days are wierd...

[mightyversa]

Lmao at Mile High, 24 and still watching cartoons, how much Pokemon can you name off by heart? Up here we grow up at this age. I find alot of you guys dont have any occupations listed, and I bet some of you dont realize what its like being a technician so I suppose I dont think you know half the story about being one. I would say some of you guys are getting minimum wage and hate life for what it is, and I probably threw a pitbull in with a bunch of pitbulls, meaning I am talking to most of the cheap people here that want to do the work themselves because they cant afford it. Not listing an occupation.....maybe your still in your parents basement! If you are, grow up for god sakes, no wonder Canada is the best country to live in the world, we mature probably quicker than others, but not all.

George Bush walks the walk before he talks the talk, and most of you cheapies talk the talk, but cant afford to walk the walk, sorry to hear but if you are getting minimum wage, go to school and get a career or do something, maybe move out of mommies house and start paying some bills for once.

[blindsnyper]

mightyV you have some issues that need taken care of off the forums. dude just shut up, id rather hear from red devil right now.

[frankoV]

[bites tongue and erases replies . . .]

This thread -- like others -- has become personal rather than helpful. MV: many of us poor slobs work to put food on the table for our families. Some guys [and gals] her may yet live at home in their parents' basements . . . perhaps going to school, perhaps trying to sort life out before entering the "big bad world" -- I wish I'da had that option when I was younger.

fwiw, grown-ups don't slag people and speak with a superiority complex.

fwiw, I didn't list my occupation [nearing 30 years now] because it really doesn't matter -- I could be an MP but how does that make me a better or worse Versa owner?

But I do agree . . . Canada is the best place in the world to live [even if it is minus 30 again today!].

[matt_a]

Canada is the best country to live in the world,

But I do agree . . . Canada is the best place in the world to live [even if it is minus 30 again today!].

LOL!!! Both of you need to put the crack pipe down. Canada is a beautiful country (been there many times), but any place that gets that cold doesn't even make it into the top 10.

[VersaMG08]

Hey buddy, there are people who are in their 30s that watch 'cartoons'. The proper name for it is Anime, and yes I do watch that stuff because I find it entertaining and positive.

I hope you don't have a problem with that, and I don't have a problem with you being a 'technician'. No, I don't watch Pokemon nor do I intend to because that is for kids. Not all Anime is for kids, that's why they have a rating system like watching movies or playing video games. Are you trying to nag on me because I have different hobbies than some people on these forums?

And that picture I posted above was a joke, I didn't mean to insult your occupation or anything. Seriously dude, you really need to chill out sometimes you take things way too far.

[Driving Instructor]

I watch cartoons....... all the time..... and even some Day time soap ..Like Days of our lives!

[Knightro2]

Hey buddy, there are people who are in their 30s that watch 'cartoons'.

I watch Family Guy...that's a cartoon and I'm 29 but yet somehow I'm still able to hold down a career in a specialized field AND not brag at how much I make in every other thread. Sure, I'd love to make a **** load of money playing with what is pretty much a glorified Tonka truck...but I don't and still happy with my life.

So Sailor had a question...hence why this forum is here. A place where people with like vehicles can come and talk and ask questions...not to be dumped on. I used to change the oil on all my family's cars since I was about 10. I only stopped in 1998 because I moved out and went to college and it is hard to change your oil in the parking lot of an apartment complex.

There have been times when I've gotten under a new vehicle and just looked at something and went, "What the hell?!" But I researched it, asked questions, and got the job done....SAFELY!! I've never had an accident due to bad maintenance and yet somehow I managed to do it without a $15,000 technical school "degree" and making over $100k pushing snow. My 3000GT was the most difficult oil change to do ever mainly because of the filter location. But you know what, when I went back to AutoZone because I realized I picked up the wrong filter (I was off by 1 number when I was in a rush) I asked the guys there and one showed me a secret how to get to it. VIOLA'! Little ol' me got the filter out.

With your comments and questions in previous posts...I guess you aren't fit to swap out your engine since you had to ask US what you would need to do with the ECU for the new engine. God forbid if you have to ask a question...I guess we're ALL doomed O' Mighty Technical Degree Certified Technician.

So in the end. SonofaSailor, sorry for the rude welcoming to this thread. Don't take MightyVersa's posts as how we all are. We are normally a very helpful place for questions like this. I haven't change the oil on my V myself so I can't help. But someone here can. Oh, and if you start modding your V, take Red Devil's comments with a grain of salt. (Sorry Red, I've never had a problem with you at all...just trying to prep this guy. lol).

So, what do I think when I see some DIYer doing work to his/her vehicle, taking business away from the industry? I think thats NUTS.

Sorry, I was going to let this one go but as I kept thinking about it the thought just kept me laughing.

So with your rationale on this... when I was working for my previous employer, which was a gym that operated 50+ clubs in 4 states, I should be mad at anyone who owns a Bowflex, home gym, or even a Wii Fit because it takes away from the industry?! And to that, currently I work for a super market chain that is about to open the 1000th store in 2 days...so I should be upset with anyone who has their own garden or raises their own chickens because it takes away from the industry?!

Modified by Knightro2 at 10:54 AM 1/26/2009

Modified by Knightro2 at 10:57 AM 1/26/2009
Modified by Knightro2 at 10:58 AM 1/26/2009

[matt_a]

Excellent post knightro2. Well said.

[Knightro2]

**added additional comments to my previous post**

[AZhitman]

This all goes to show how people support the Automotive Service Technicians. I see WAY to many people up here doing their own work, wrong most of the time, and they say that labour rates are to high!

I have no problems eating ANYONE out and I have the right to, and here's why:

I spent $15,000 to do a course that gives me apprenticeship in a trade. I have 7 years experience in the trade and have great mechanical abilities. I am not afraid to turn a nut and have the other abilities that make me an asset as an Automotive Service Tecnician. So, what do I think when I see some DIYer doing work to his/her vehicle, taking business away from the industry? I think thats NUTS. I can only imagine what all you other guys are in this life, and maybe you make more than $100,000 a year, I dont know, but in all honesty, if the DIYer had any respect for the trade, they would either go do it themselves or pay to get work done, escpecially when they dont know what they are doing.

I dont even work on my own vehicle, I pay to get work done on it, but some things I know wont be done right and I want to make sure it is, thats why I am doing my own modifications, as of regular brake work n the likes, I pay a Technician the money to do it cause I aint no backyard Mechanic, I am an Automotive Service Technician that has respect for the trade. But I guess most people would rather take the cheap way out than just do that, probably why our insurance rates are still high, along with Labour and parts. Oh well, you guys know everything about the trade (and very little about mechanics) so I will take your word for it.

I'll take you up on that.

In fact, I'll go you one better.

That $15K qualifies you to change oil and taillight bulbs. Sure, you can R & R parts as components based off the FSM instructions.

You can rip on other people when you build something that makes people go "Wow". You can be a jerk when you fabricate your own parts that are no longer avaliable. You can clown on other people's experience when you have a garage full of cars you built yourself, or when you complete a frame-off restoration (or three).

Until then, let's keep the high-and-mighty nonsense to a minimum, because there's not an "Automotive Service Technician" around that can build things from scratch based off their "training". It's all self-taught, and DIY'ers are held in pretty high regard here.

That said, I DO respect your input, just not the tone. I wouldn't pay an "Automotive Service Technician" to work on anything I own, with the exception of maybe HVAC stuff and the ECU tuning I've had done. I do it myself.

Thanks for your other contributions to the thread and the board.

[rafa2210]

dude, imma do my oil change this week, let me know if u cant take that cover off and i'll post u the pics of where the screws are and to take them off.....!!!

btw, a $15000 career is a very basic degree that provides u a knowledge that anyone with some practice can overcome!!! in addition to that, for ppl that wakes up like u is that we take care of our cars ourselves, y would i let someone with that mood work in my car?psssss

no ofense to anyone else!!

[Knightro2]

Amen to that.

Oh, and on a side note. My father and I rebuilt a '56 Ford Thunderbird from the ground up back in the '90s. Completely stripped it down to the chassis and built it back up. No certifications, no school. Just a few books and spec manuals and a good part supplier. It still runs to this day. It is my father's daily driver.

This is a perfect example of a DIY'er. The car was in shambles when we found her. It was a "barnyard story". Found a person selling it in Jay, Florida. It had been in a barn for a couple of decades. We actually had to cut a tree down in order to get the doors off. But yet, we were able to resurrect her without paying $15k for school or probably $60k+ to a restorer.

[WDRacing]

Wow...

You my friend are a d!ck. I am currently between jobs, take care of 2 boys and I know for a fact that I can run circles around you in the garage. But wait, I don't have a degree in anything...how can I know anything about anything. DIYers are the backbone of the automotive world. Anymore of your slanderous BS and you can find another damn forum to troll. Consider yourself officially on probation. Save your judgement for someone that gives a crap. Hint...you won't find any on Nico. Congrats, you're on everyone's **** list.

WD