Engine Swap options: Goal is 500hp Naturally Aspirated!!!

[TTkickedin]

He wants to spend MORE money buying a TT z32, swap a truck engine into the z, then make it have 500 N/a Hp, and then possibly add twin turbos to it in the later future.


Nothing in the above statement is unreasonable at all....

How about a cummins z with stacks out the t-tops?

[TTkickedin]

I think, if you actually follow this guys though process, you might actually get 500hp NA

so you start with OEM TT. +-300hp
Then, you go NA on a truck motor to like 500hp, so that's 800hp just for having a swap.
then back to Twin Turbos on god engine... so, 800 - 300 = 500hp!

:troll:

[Z31toZ32]

I will say though, that you definitely do NOT need to buy everything expensive. You just need to buy 'QUALITY' parts

hmm ok ? the good stuff isn't cheap.


if you think that you can come up with a list of parts that will get you to that power level for cheaper, by all means please post away. remember, 20 year old used turbo car, bone stock TT to 500 rwhp on 93.

[legion]

15K sounds about right. I don't know the exact number but it probably cost me 12-13K for my car and that didn't even include 2.5" IC's, EBC, or built internals. I was probably around 425-450rwhp (just an estimate). These cars are expensive, and going cheap on parts isn't an option when going over 350rwhp, IMO.

[TTkickedin]

if you think that you can come up with a list of parts that will get you to that power level for cheaper, by all means please post away. remember, 20 year old used turbo car, bone stock TT to 500 rwhp on 93.

Cool! My build starts this friday, you can watch me do it.

oh, 93 plus meth.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

EBC > MBC... All day, everyday.

15K is a reasonable estimate for 500RWHP.

But is it reasonable for an NA?

An EBC or the 15K cost?

I'd say the 15K cost is reasonable regardless of NA or TT, because you're buying everything anyway. Get a blown TT motor and get it rebuilt, that's the only real difference besides a TT fuel pump and FPC. I've made a list in the past, I'm not going to do it again.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

15K sounds about right. I don't know the exact number but it probably cost me 12-13K for my car and that didn't even include 2.5" IC's, EBC, or built internals. I was probably around 425-450rwhp (just an estimate). These cars are expensive, and going cheap on parts isn't an option when going over 350rwhp, IMO.

Got a build list? I hit 435RWHP with Meth and Sport 500s, probably was good for about 460 if my plugs were gapped right

[300ZXttZMAN]

The OP states that he wants NA 500hp... Sure it can be done but can it be done with 15k???

[TTkickedin]

Simple answer, no. it can't.


More complex answer, SBC built his small block chevy motor with idk how much power with 17 thousand give or take, installed in a drag car. But I'm sure he wasn't the only one there to build. I'm sure he didn't go asking Nico if he could swap a SBC into a z32, or how to do it.

This OP is trolling, he can't do it himself nor does he know how to. NOR does he have any reason to be building a 500hp N/A z32, and I'm assuming that would definitely not be remotely streetable or street legal for that matter. The OP didn't build his 450hp Charger, probably bought it that way. The way this thread would've gone if the OP wasn't trolling would probably sound more like: "Well, i have a NA z32 with X engine swapped in @ 500hp, who want's to see it?"

[BigTDogg (MA)]

You can have a 500HP NA Z32 for less than 15K, but it won't have a VG

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MLL-BP4962CT/

We've been trolled.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Yes we have been trolled.

[legion]

Got a build list? I hit 435RWHP with Meth and Sport 500s, probably was good for about 460 if my plugs were gapped right

My guess might be off, so don't hate on me too bad if I'm wrong.
I had GT675rs turbos
740cc inj
SZ 3" exhaust
AMS mani's (don't hate, I won't buy AMS again)
AMS pullleys
Single JWT pop
AVS intercoolers
NISTUNE tuned to ~13psi

those are the big mods I had, I know I had a lot more.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

Got a build list? I hit 435RWHP with Meth and Sport 500s, probably was good for about 460 if my plugs were gapped right

My guess might be off, so don't hate on me too bad if I'm wrong.
I had GT675rs turbos
740cc inj
SZ 3" exhaust
AMS mani's (don't hate, I won't buy AMS again)
AMS pullleys
Single JWT pop
AVS intercoolers
NISTUNE tuned to ~13psi

those are the big mods I had, I know I had a lot more.

With the right tune and a Selin Dual MAF set up, you'd hit 500RWHP easily. The Disco Potato is no joke, it's an excellent turbo choice. Had, did you sell the car?

[raremotive]

With the right tune and a Selin Dual MAF set up, you'd hit 500RWHP easily. The Disco Potato is no joke, it's an excellent turbo choice. Had, did you sell the car?

Agreed. Disco Potato is a good turbo. My 2.6 isn't enough to push it, but a 3.0 is ideal for it's size. An even better option is the BorgWarner EFR 6258 it's known to spool as fast as HKS GT2530 and flow as much as the -10's, the disco potato. This can been see in the dyno chart, I been watching the Aussie forums . But, it's a big turbo going to need to put a spacer in to fit.

[legion]

With the right tune and a Selin Dual MAF set up, you'd hit 500RWHP easily. The Disco Potato is no joke, it's an excellent turbo choice. Had, did you sell the car?

Yeah, I blew the #6 piston ring (stupid JDM motor) then I moved off to college and didn't have the time or money to fix it. I regret selling it every single day...I plan on getting another one when I graduate though and I'll be back on NICO a lot more and a lot more knowledgeable. Not only from researching this car for the past 4 years but I'm going to school to be a Toyota/Lexus tech so I'll know a lot more about cars in general than I did when I started with my Z

[Rager]

^it is amazing how much you can learn about this car just buy reading the forums, ive been reading for 5 years here and now when i go looking for a TT im much more confident that ill get a good one

[BigTDogg (MA)]

Money no object I probably would have chose the GT28RS for my build, but now I'm glad I didn't. The billet GTX series looks VERY promising, and if/when I upgrade again, it'll be monstrous

[raremotive]

Very true, it would be monstrous.

A set of -5s is about $2k. The EFR 6258 is about 2.8K.

I have yet to see results from or information about the GTX2860R's.

[TTkickedin]

Funny you guys are mentioning the disco potato. I was planning on buying them, but I figured i would save that as my next turbo upgrade after a GT2560R setup (S15 OEM ball bearing turbochargers.) I could potentially just skip to the gt28rs build, but my car would have to be in the shop past the April/May date I set for completion. And I don't want that.

On the road to 800hp in small, affordable increments hahah.

You could find a disco potato for (at the lowest, not billet though) 940 bucks a piece, free shipping and NIB! Still, I couldn't afford that build right now. I have a link if anyone wants it.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

They will need to be reclocked to fit the VG though, but yes, you can get them cheaper than the Sport700s or GT675 packages.

BTW, don't use silicone for the oil return lines like the Z1 packages have. I don't care what they claim about the liners, they'll sweat.

[TTkickedin]

That reclocking should be the least of my worries. (Overclocking a cpu is much harder, haha.) I read up on it, seems easy enough.

Where would you suggest I get my oil return piping from?

[300ZXttZMAN]

Oil return piping is just a simple elbow pipe that mounts under each turbo then turns towards the oil pan. Then a rubber hose that comes from the turbo expansion pipes (elbow pipes) then goes onto the oil pan.. Call SZ and tell them you want the clamps that are made in Sweden with the oil hoses. (I chose oem oil hoses) (I think the clamps are made by some company called abdel).

Also tell them that the NICO club Z32 moderators sent you.

[TTkickedin]

I think I'll either go with that route, or get a stainless steel braided line 'kit'.

Looks good anyway.

[300ZXttZMAN]

I think I'll either go with that route, or get a stainless steel braided line 'kit'.

Looks good anyway.

Its not "or" you have to have each.
The braided stainless steel line kit replaces the stock turbo oil feed lines. You need to get them if you run BB turbo's because the SZ lines have restrictors so that you don't get to much oil in the BB center section and ruin the seal..

If yout actually talking about getting braided stainless steel it would be a waste to get braided stainess steel return lines. IMHO

[TTkickedin]

I know that, I meant just keep the stock rubber hoses or get the stainless braided hoses. For looks more than anything.

[300ZXttZMAN]

When you say get stainless braided hoses do you mean turbo oil return hoses or for the oil feed lines ? They are both impossible to see unless you are under the car.

[TTkickedin]

The return hoses.

[300ZXttZMAN]

The return hoses.

Don't do that haha that would be such a waste of money.

[TTkickedin]

Lol its like 30 bucks!

[300ZXttZMAN]

Lol its like 30 bucks!

Still a waste of $30... You still don't have your turbo's fixed you don't need to be wasting money on that LOL.