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SmithSR
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I have the Energy Suspension master kit on my s13 and there are a few drawbacks. If you are at all hesitant, or don't have a press, then pay a shop to do it.

The first and probably biggest drawback are the massive solid tension rod bushings which limit axial movement and can(could) cause binding, which some people say has cracked their lower control arms. Shortly after doing the ES kit, I swapped to Cucso tension rods, so that is one way to get around what could be a problem.

Next are the swaybar bushings that are intended for OEM bars and are useless if you've upgraded to larger diameter bar.

Some say the subrame inserts are no good. A half-a** attempt at fixing/reducing subframe movement. They may be right.

Other than that, the only real tough part are the rear spindle bushings which need to be burnt/cut out instead of pressed.

For the most part, it's a good kit. Old crusty OEM bushings should be replaced. Worth the money IMO.

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If you plan on pillowball TC rods and aftermarket sways, you could just buy the bushigns you need. I think powertrix sells bushing kits for LCAs, RUCAs, toe, and traction rods. I don't think their suspension arms are good quality, but I think there's less room to mess up when making bushings, so that may be a good option. I've been thinkin about doing that. I'm wondering what kind of press as well...harbor freight has a 1 ton press for $40 i believe...

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[QUOTE=SmithSR]The first and probably biggest drawback are the massive solid tension rod bushings which limit axial movement and can(could) cause binding, which some people say has cracked their lower control arms. Shortly after doing the ES kit, I swapped to Cucso tension rods, so that is one way to get around what could be a problem.QUOTE]Does the Cusco tension rods have unlimited axial movement?????

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not unlimited movement, but they do have a heim joint to allow movement in the same idea as the OEM tension rod bushing

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So they have AXIAL MOVEMENT???

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Is axial movement the right word? The massive ES bushing does not allow the tension rod to twist in sync with the control arm movement as it cycles up and down. The OEM bushing not only allows movement straight up and down, but also allows a twisting motion through the control arm cycle. I don't know how else to explain it. A picture I might have

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i heard that they wear out faster then stock bushings is that true?

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HAHAHA no. Who told you that? I'll wager that is was one of two things:

1. somebody who's never installed and driven on them for years.2. somebody selling you a competing bushing kit.My 72 bronco has ES bushings for 10yrs. Stilll look new and show no signs of wear. And trust me, the rig gets beat, twisted, and jumped.

ES bushings are quality.

The local Nissan dealer sells Energy Suspension too.


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