emissions poll

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tyrannix
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its been popping up alot latly,who actually did install the emissions gear from their CA (and did you pass your emissions test on inspection)

edit> hit it before i was done, can a mod add 'installed some of it' as a poll choice?

edit 2> err.. crack moment. this was supposed to include your location as well so we can build up a database of emmissions areas
Modified by tyrannix at 11:17 AM 11/28/2005


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I live in a visual inspection only county. But here in a few years, we, like all counties in the US, will go full test.

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1st, sorry man, I can't fix it. I can delete this one and you can make another if you'd like.

2nd,no emmisions here whatsoever.

NeedCAforS13
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come on rookie. its easy enough to add another poll choice

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I hate crap that makes stuff complicated.... my CA doesn't have a whole lot of emissions stuff to start with (EGR and all the crap my ka's had) but I took the cat out. No way in hell mine would pass smog anything mine is a gross polluter. I keep it registered in WV but as of right now its not even inspected (I live out of state). Hopefully by the time it starts to become a problem the car will be old enough to be exempt from smog.

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NeedCAforS13 wrote:come on rookie. its easy enough to add another poll choice

Sean
WTF, how did you do that? Send me an email, will ya?

81na ZX
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Michigan has no emmissions tests at all...

Not that I'm saying anything else, or even if i have anything completed...

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in wisconsin parts of it such as milwuakee has emissions...but were i live near madison, we have NO emissions...so im not gunna run any emissions crap.

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Here in Tennessee we have emissons control. My ca has just a catco cat. I messed around with my safc 2 and i finally passed after 2 tries.

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junked the lot. we have pretty strict emissions tests here but the CA is exempt from all cat tests (0.3% CO) because nissan never gave the ministry of transport the official figures so we get a default (3.5%) test. it can be dificult getting testing stations not to use the SR test though

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hell, by the time emissions testing goes national, S13s will be so old they'll be exempt. Even if they aren't, most states that do have emissions testing can issue you a waiver if you show a receipt from an auto repair shop claiming that you spent a certain amount on repairs unsuccessfully fixing the problem. I know in Massachusetts, you have to spend at least $200 in repairs. If after that, you still don't pass, the shop just needs to fill out the waiver form. You take that to the DMV and Voila! No emissions requirement
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Yep. In Washington, you have to pass the stock car's emissions, so the CA gets tested on the KA standards. If it fails, you can pay $200 in parts and have a mechanic sign off.

For engine swaps, as long as the engine you replace in the original car is newer than the old one, you have the same regulations. If it's older, it becomes a "Pass Only" vehicle, which means it has to pass, there are no waivers. Since there's no date on the CAs or any real way to check, you could get away here with having a mechanic sign off after a bi-yearly $200 check, and say, "Uh, yeah, I pulled it from a 94 in Japan," and probably get away with it.

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I realize that all works but I want to point out that TECHNICALLY the ca18det wasn't ever smog legal in the US. You can probably talk your way through a visual inspection, but the ca18det is illegal to have in a pollution controlled motor vehicle in the united states, period. thats federal regulations.the reality is different, as you guys have shown. I live in TX but keep mine registered in WV so I don't have to worry about smog (or inspection, for that matter). turns out most states have waivers that say if youre a full time student in another state you don't have to keep your inspection current as long as you remain a full time student.

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Wrong, actually. It's not federal regulation, it's state regulation. As I pointed out in my example, in Washington state, even in one of the three emissions control counties, it's totally legal PROVIDED that the thing passes KA emissions standards. If it passes that, then it's 100% legal. You only need to talk your way past it if it won't pass.

I've talked all this over with the emissions people over the phone, and they pretty much busted the "Japanese engines have to be federally approved before you put them in a car," myth. I could take some obscure Chinese Domestic Market engine and stick it in my car, and as long as the engine itself passes stock emissions or is newer than the year of the car with a waiver and $200 bill, it's perfectly legal. This doesn't affect state policies like California's which will regulate this even further, but state isn't federal.

As for Texas, people swap CAs and SRs all the time. Pass a visual, pass the standard KA smog, you're set. Failing that, find a county just outside one of the large cities. My ex had a few cars and she kept them registered in the county over because they pretty much just did the "mouth on the pipe" emissions test. As long as nobody's dying from the fumes when you crank it, it's good.

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Actually, since the CA was technically offered in the US in the Pulsar, you can use it as a motor in your car. The only law about motors is that there is a certain limit about how old a motor you can put into a newer car and still have it street leagal.

Unlike the SR, the CA that we use in our 240's is closer in design to the USDM models than the USDM SR visually as well as internally. If someone fabbed up a EGR to use, I dont see why it would be a problem to pass a visual or a smog test (unless youre in California). I asked my insurance sompany about this just the other day and they said it would be fine if I went by the other car's exhaust readings. No special registration needed (this is in MD, BTW. All i would need is another cat to make it pass, apparently.

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Or you could move to Kansas. We'll be the last state with smog regulations, I garuntee it. The cow farts pollute more than the cars do...

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OKlahoma had a visual inspection and killed it in 95 (I think). Too many farmers that cut out "grass fire starting" CATs. THe visual was a joke. I know a guy that would pass them over the phone and mail you the stickers.

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I don't care who you talk to on the phone... as I said, you can actually get one passed, but they are technically illegal by federal regulations. Don't tell me I'm wrong until you read the law and find out that I'm right.

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When my old KA was on its last leg and wouldn't pass emissions the worker there said next time just tell them you swapped in a rotary motor then they will run it as an rx-7 which have very bad fatory emissions.. It worked

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Emissions questions should be state specific. If the question is related to California emissions, it has nothing to do with the emissions in Iowa, Nebraska or Montana, all states that happen to have no emissions testing.

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Is it normal for a ca18det to do bad in emission test because emissions might soon be a problem for me because the Bahamian government is talking about phasing the test in and since i have no emissions crap installed or connected i'm sure to fail.

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i just ran emissions with the cat all hot and toasty and i did horrible on the hydrocarbons. the legal limit was somewhere around 1 and i ran an 8 with my ca. does anyone have any tips or anything that can help me?

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