emanage!

[ca18detizzle]

ok... before i blow off $1,200 on my management i need some advice / opinions. I was planning on purchasing the following... 1. greddy emanage with support tool, injector harness, ignition harness, and pressure harness 2. greddy profect e01 for my boost controller 3. PLX devices M-300 Wideband o2

With this much invested what would you do for management. My goal is 250hwp boosting 12-14psi ALL DAY for YEARS. This is why I am going to invest more on tuning the car to extend the longevity of what's under my hood. If there is any better alternative please feel free to fire away. Thanks for the input

-jeff

[r34 gtr]

dude, why not just get a full stand alone? i mean, a power fc and commander with the boost controller option thingy will cost you about 1200. you could also go with any number of stand alones for that price. check out ebay, ill bet you can find a much better deal. that e-manage isnt even a stand alone.

- tim

[ca18detizzle]

will this work for the CA18det ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33596

deng... now i got to find a power FC tuner.. hah

[RMiller]

will this work for the CA18det ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33596

deng... now i got to find a power FC tuner.. hah

Nope, it only mentions s14 and s15 200sx, but CA Power FCs go for sale every once in a while.

For that power an SAFC would be pretty fine, or it would be very easy to use an SR T25 and simply up the boost and use an ARC sidemount and you could pump out 240whp possibly on the stock injectors, stock maf at about 14 psi. My ecu is chipped for 440's and z32 maf. When I ditch my setup for an SDS it'll be for sale.

[wildacexxx]

how much for the maf and 440s?

[themadscientist]

SDShttp://www.sdsefi.com/specific.html

[redamnavit]

SDShttp://www.sdsefi.com/specific.html

/begin Devil's Advocate Time:

Does the SDS provide any facilities for data logging? The site doesn't seem to list anything specific. If not shouldn't you add in the cost of either dyno time or a WO2 setup with some means of datalogging when considering the total price?

Its obvious from the support it has on this board that the SDS is a solid system for the CA, but it still seems a lot more expensive than a piggyback that includes data logging, and not all that much cheaper than, say, a Haltech with built-in data logging and a pleasant graphical display.

/end Devil's Advocate Time

[boost_boy]

/begin Devil's Advocate Time:

Does the SDS provide any facilities for data logging? The site doesn't seem to list anything specific. If not shouldn't you add in the cost of either dyno time or a WO2 setup with some means of datalogging when considering the total price?

Its obvious from the support it has on this board that the SDS is a solid system for the CA, but it still seems a lot more expensive than a piggyback that includes data logging, and not all that much cheaper than, say, a Haltech with built-in data logging and a pleasant graphical display.

/end Devil's Advocate Time

Even with a haltech, motec, AEM, Links EMS, microtec, or whatever, you still will need to spend money on dyno time. Those pretty graphical displays you speak of does nothing for novice tuners, but confuse the hell out of most of them. Remember these 3 letters S.D.S or Simple Digital Systems. It is just what it says it is "Simple". If you're a horrible tuner, a pleasant graphical display won't prevent your power plant from melting down if you screwed up.

However, those that are really keen on using piggy back systems for their motors, that's your option. Anyone trying to use burnt chips, more power to you and wish you the best of luck. I like the powerFC's initial function, but have yet to see anyone with one on their CA18DET set-ups. We have one user that uses a haltech on his Nissan Pulsar with CA18DET, one user (which is me) that actually tunes in real time with an SDS system, some with chips, SAFCs, and most are stock. Until someone explores other systems with this motor and with some success, we can only go with what seems to be the most cost effective for the gains. I've gotten the opportunity to tune both SDS and microtec on the CA18DET and I personally think the SDS is much more easier to tune despite the fact that it doesn't offer data logging or pretty colored graphical screens. And tuning on the SR20DET was even easier than the CA IMHO. It's all about preference and what's proven.

Dee

[float_6969]

I should have data on how the Power FC performs on the CA w/in a month. I'm getting my motor mounts and flywheel bolts this week. That should be enough for me to get it into the car and get it started.

[RMiller]

how much for the maf and 440s?

I can't sell until the SDS seller pulls through. Whenever that happens, I'll be keeping the injectors for a while and selling the maf anywhere from 100-150 depending on whether I sell it with the filter and adaptor or not.

[ca18detizzle]

the SDS looks fun.. sucks im super noobie with wiring and no know one here with an SDS nor know what the hell an SDS is.. lol. Sucks!! man.. maybe ill just stick with the SAFC2.. but who knows? I dont know what the SDS is really all about until i get one...

[themadscientist]

the SDS looks fun.. sucks im super noobie with wiring and no know one here with an SDS nor know what the hell an SDS is

uh

Remember these 3 letters S.D.S or Simple Digital Systems. It is just what it says it is "Simple". We have one user that uses a haltech on his Nissan Pulsar with CA18DET, one user (which is me) that actually tunes in real time with an SDS system, some with chips, SAFCs, and most are stock. Until someone explores other systems with this motor and with some success, we can only go with what seems to be the most cost effective for the gains. I've gotten the opportunity to tune both SDS and microtec on the CA18DET and I personally think the SDS is much more easier to tune despite the fact that it doesn't offer data logging or pretty colored graphical screens. And tuning on the SR20DET was even easier than the CA IMHO. It's all about preference and what's proven.

Dee

[redamnavit]

I've gotten the opportunity to tune both SDS and microtec on the CA18DET and I personally think the SDS is much more easier to tune despite the fact that it doesn't offer data logging or pretty colored graphical screens. And tuning on the SR20DET was even easier than the CA IMHO. It's all about preference and what's proven.

This is why I'll probably end up with an SDS after I my motor is up and running ok in stock form. If something goes wrong with the car I feel confident it'd be my tuning and not an unfriendly relationship between the motor and the ECU. It appears they make a harness for the CA?

For my datalogging, I figure on one of these:http://www.plxdevices.com/R-500_productinfo.htm

Pricey, but it covers just about everything.